Coronavirus news Indonesia

Shill88 wrote:

A more analytical look at Covid-19 in Indonesia:

https://indonesiaatmelbourne.unimelb.ed … k8vhzIXKJ8

More rubbish guesswork based on 'maybe', 'possibly', and ''infer'.

They did say

As of 7 April, our model estimates as many as 1,975 undiagnosed cases in Indonesia and 51,810 undetected cases, giving a possible total of 56,173 cases – much higher than the reported number of 2,738. This indicates an urgent need for increasing testing and medical treatment for tens of thousands of Indonesians.

No, it doesn't indicate testing is needed as there is bugger all point wasting scarce resources on people that will recover naturally, it just means (if their blind guess is right) the suggested death rate is far lower than official numbers (all over the world) say.

Guess and maybe based on data unproven to be anything to do with the virus isn't science, it's a wild guess.

As for that guess about the spike in funerals in Jakarta, it could well be accounted for by disease and shock from the floods, or maybe space aliens, or whatever else you think of, but can't be put down to covid19 as nobody kept any records so we simply don't know.

This is a clarification of who can and cannot enter Indonesia at the moment.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/adv/2020 … nesia.html

As with all models, this has to be taken as possibility rather than fact as nobody has accurate numbers and things can change quickly, but we can hope

https://en.tempo.co/read/1326714/profes … urce=dable

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Statistics experts and alumni of the Gadjah Mada University (UGM) predicted the end of the COVID-19 pandemic by using a mathematical probabilistic data-driven model. It shows the spread of coronavirus in Indonesia will stop by the end of May this year.

This is one I hope is wrong for obvious reasons - I will not be going out of town and, as a direct result of the possible increased 'out of town' population around, I will go out even less than I do at the moment. I will make sure I have food and other supplies for 2 weeks, then hang around the house.

https://en.tempo.co/read/1329459/survey … urce=dable

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Dicky Pelupessy, member of the Social Panels for Disaster Team, said that a survey he held showed 68.6 percent of Indonesians working in urban areas will keep their homecoming tradition, known as mudik for Eid, despite risks of Covid-19 transmission. Meanwhile, 21.3 percent of the respondents will travel outside of town for other purposes.

Based on his survey, Dicky asked the government to anticipate and prevent the spread of Covid-19 in the countryside.

Fred wrote:

As with all models, this has to be taken as possibility rather than fact as nobody has accurate numbers and things can change quickly, but we can hope

https://en.tempo.co/read/1326714/profes … urce=dable

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Statistics experts and alumni of the Gadjah Mada University (UGM) predicted the end of the COVID-19 pandemic by using a mathematical probabilistic data-driven model. It shows the spread of coronavirus in Indonesia will stop by the end of May this year.

Well we can all dream, but my guess is that we have already exceeded the professor's predicted 6,200 Covid-19 infections in the country and we'll need lots of prayers and widespread lockdowns in order to meet his May deadline for ending the pandemic. Would be good though if he's right.

I once used a ride service that did a right turn and was scraped by the bike he didn't check was there, but both machines were fine, so neither had to be scrapped.

https://en.tempo.co/read/1330115/psbb-j … ek-service

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Online ride-hailing companies, GoJek and Grab, no longer provide motorcycle taxi (ojek) service on its apps as Jakarta starts imposing the large-scale social restriction (PSBB) policy.


On Gojek app, icon GoRide for ojek was even scraped. But other features, such as GoCar and GoFood are still accessible.

Meanwhile, Grab’s ojek feature, GrabBike, can still be found on its app but when it is clicked, the user is be diverted to GrabCar service.

More interesting reading.

I will say that I do believe that bean sprouts and broccoli probably do their bit in strengthening the body, and actually I really enjoy eating them both. In fact a good healthy diet of meat and vegetables provides lots of useful vitamins that should help strengthen the immune system. And for those using IM Boost, according to our doctor friend, you should take these tablets when you are actually ill, and not use them as a vitamin tablet substitute:

https://www.thejakartapost.com/academia … d&pg=/

Australia looking at a long term overseas travel ban - not good news for the Bali tourist industry.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal … 54iw4.html

Shill88 wrote:

Australia looking at a long term overseas travel ban - not good news for the Bali tourist industry.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal … 54iw4.html

Many politicians are doing whatever they can to exploit the pandemic for their own reasons, none of them anything to do with either reality or common sense, but plenty to do with political gain in whatever form.

Welcome to Indonesia.

Shill88 wrote:

Welcome to Indonesia.

Australia, if you care to read your own link

https://en.tempo.co/read/1330376/unnecessary-arrests

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - The police have arrested people accused of spreading fake news about the coronavirus. Hoaxes might be a reaction to the lack of transparency from the government.

THE arrests of people accused of spreading fake news about the coronavirus disease 2019, or Covid-19, outbreak is going too far. The National Police should stop using these repressive methods. The most effective way to clampdown on hoax news is to provide transparent information about the disease that has now become a global pandemic.

The piece tells us how the government is bad because they arrest people spreading stories likely to cause panic, then goes on to state

In this time of pandemic, the people are inclined to panic.

It's unlikely this journalist will be nominated for a Pulitzer prize or membership of Mensa on the strength of that piece.

Edit - The UK has a similar issue, and is taking action against those who spread rubbish, Icke and a London based company in this case. The UK has an especially stupid tin foil hat theory that says 5G towers spread coronavirus, something I have yet to hear in Indonesia as far. The laws over there are less aggressive than Indonesia's version but can still bite hard against broadcast companies stupid enough to give idiots a platform.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52228046

This is good:

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/202 … eaths.html

"COVID-19: More regions request PSBB status as Indonesia sees big jump in infections, deaths"

https://en.tempo.co/read/1330835/ridwan … n-april-15

TEMPO.CO, Bandung - West Java Governor Ridwan Kamil said the large-scale social restrictions (PSBB) for Bogor, Depok, and Bekasi (Bodebek) will be imposed starting Wednesday, April 15.


“We will coordinate it and decide to implement PSBB in the five regions (Bogor City, Bogor Regency, Depok City, Bekasi City, and Bekasi Regency) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020, for fourteen days,” said Ridwan during an online press conference in Pakuan Building, Bandung, Sunday, April 12.

After the fourteen days, his side will evaluate whether the strict physical distancing introduced to curb the coronavirus (COVID-19) spread will be continued or dropped. According to him, the Health Ministerial Decree on the approval of the PSBB status for the five regions had been received on Saturday afternoon, April 11.

This is excellent news

https://en.antaranews.com/news/146061/p … -indonesia

The price of onions has gone from crazy to totally crazy so the news of loads of onions coming in is a great relief to curry heads such as myself.

Many shops have set up a Whatsapp based collection or delivery service so you can shop with minimal contact, and some have set up outdoor bases so you can order what you want from the shop, someone goes around with a trolley for you, then pops the lot in the back of your car.
You only have to nip to the outdoor checkout to pay.
Hypermart have set up mobile shops.

https://jakartaglobe.id/special-updates … tial-areas

It's good to see businesses doing this as it makes shopping easy and safe, and keeps people in work.

Achmad Yurianto has this one absolutely right. Fake news is a pain in the bum at best, and dangerous at worst. The virus and the disruption it's causing are bad enough, but silly buggers pumping out fake news makes things worse.

https://en.antaranews.com/news/146125/g … emain-wary

Jakarta (ANTARA) - Government spokesperson for COVID-19 Handling, Achmad Yurianto, has urged people to not believe in hoaxes that are being spread around the coronavirus, saying the government has so far detected 1,125 false news stories.

"There are already heavy challenges (for the country), in terms of health risks, and for the economic sector. We must make sure that we do not add more psychological burden (on citizens) from false news or information," he said at a press conference on Thursday for the Task Force for the Acceleration of COVID-19 Handling in Jakarta.

Believing in hoaxes related to COVID-19 will add to psychological pressure and make it even more difficult for those staying at home to stem the spread of coronavirus infections, he elaborated.

Talk about making a mistake.
My wife wanted to go shopping yesterday, something I wasn't too keen on at 3 in the afternoon as I expected the place to be far busier than the one or two shoppers you see if you go very early.
The place was absolutely packed so shopping will be done in the morning instead.

More about closedowns in Jakarta

https://en.tempo.co/read/1333331/jakart … under-psbb

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - The Jakarta administration has acted firmly against corporations violating the city’s large-scale social restriction (PSBB) protocol by temporarily ceasing the operations of 25 workplaces following a series of sudden inspections throughout the first week of the social distancing measure.

Out of the inspected 215 workplaces, 190 were handed official written warnings.

According to the data provided by Jakarta’s Department of Manpower, Transmigration, and Energy, the 25 workplaces that were forced to close its operations are spread across Central Jakarta (8), West Jakarta (11), and South Jakarta (2).

The government maintains that the aforementioned workplaces are not corporations exempted by the PSBB social restriction to continue operations and that it has acted under the Governor’s  Regulation No.33/2020 Article 10.

Some useful information with regards to entertainment, the indonesian goverment made an order to upgrade ALL subscriptions for tv etc, we have 2 first media subscriptions the main one is a family package and one is my own internet for work and my android box, they both now have full subscriptions on both started yesterday, worth checking your channels with various companies

This report says mudik has been banned and police are preparing to close roads

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/jokowi-ban … of-jakarta

Jakarta. President Joko "Jokowi" Widodo officially issued a ban on mudik, the annual exodus of millions of people from the country's urban centers at the end of the Ramadan fasting month, on Tuesday in a desperate attempt to try to limit the spread of the coronavirus pandemic.

"I have made the decision to ban everyone from returning to their hometown," Jokowi said during a limited cabinet meeting at the Merdeka Palace in Jakarta.

The decision to impose a nationwide ban on the Idul Fitri exodus was based on the government's own evaluations.
The Transportation Ministry indicated that 68 percent of Indonesian Muslims have decided to cancel their mudik plans this year, 24 percent are insisting they would carry on...

Posts from Indonesian language newspapers confirm it

https://finance.detik.com/berita-ekonom … -melanggar

Road blocks started here at 14:00 today, seen several water cannon moving around last 48 hours or so, further road blocks to be imposed at various time scales

Nothing here at all yet but I wouldn't be surprised if they blocked the toll road exit to stop people entering the area.

Plenty of food in stock

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesia- … emic-bulog

Jakarta. The head of the Indonesian Bureau of Logistics, or Bulog, Budi Waseso, said on Monday that Indonesia has enough supply of rice to last during the coronavirus pandemic. As of April 17, Bulog still has 1.41 million tons of rice in its warehouses across the country.

"We have 1.35 million tons in government warehouses and 56,000 tons for commercial purposes. It should be enough to last during the pandemic," Budi said during a teleconference with the House of Representatives' Commission VI.

To maintain the rice supply and keep prices stable, Budi said the bureau plans to obtain 950,000 more tons of rice in 2020, around 69 percent of which will be bought directly from farmers throughout April–June.

Red zone restrictions

https://en.antaranews.com/news/146456/p … -mudik-ban

Jakarta (ANTARA) - The Indonesian Transportation Ministry has decided to ban public and private vehicles carrying travelers headed home for Eid al-Fitr from passing through COVID-19 red zones.

"We have prepared a scheme under which public transport vehicles, private cars, and motorcycles will be prohibited from entering and leaving red zones once ‘mudik’ (annual Eid exodus) is banned," director general of Land Transportation of the Transportation Ministry, Budi Setiyadi, said here on Tuesday.

Several regions, including Jakarta, Bogor, Depok, Tangerang, and Bekasi (Jabodetabek), have implemented large-scale social restrictions to break the chain of COVID-19 transmission.

Setiyadi said once the ban on ‘mudik' takes effect, traffic on roads heading from and to red zones would be restricted rather than blocked.

"We have opted for traffic restrictions -- only passenger cars will be banned, while cars carrying goods or logistics (service providers) would still (be allowed to) move on the roads," he explained.

More on mudik bans

https://en.antaranews.com/news/146444/m … 4-minister

Jakarta (ANTARA) - Coordinating Minister for Maritime Affairs and Investment Luhut Binsar Pandjaitan stated that the ban on the annual Eid al-Fitr holiday exodus will be enacted since April 24.

"The ban on mudik (holiday exodus) will be effective from Friday, April 24. There will be sanctions, but the imposition of the sanction that we have already prepared will only be effective from May 7," Pandjaitan, concurrently the acting transportation minister, stated here on Tuesday.

President Joko Widodo (Jokowi) has officially barred all citizens from traveling to their hometowns during the Eid al-Fitr celebrations to thwart the transmission of COVID-19.

The decision was taken on the basis of an evaluation conducted by the Transportation Ministry.

"Considering the situation and condition, we have conducted three surveys, with the last one on April 13 and April 15. We found that some 20 percent of the people are insisting on mudik regardless of the government's calls to restrain from partaking in the holiday exodus," he noted.

The survey indicated that 24 percent of the people were planning trips irrespective of the virus outbreak, although 68 percent others would not have the annual tradition this year.

"Based on the survey, the government has decided to ban mudik during Ramadhan and Eid al-Fitr for citizens in Greater Jakarta as well as regions that have imposed the Large-Scale Social Restriction (PSBB) and red zones for the coronavirus outbreak. To this end, I think the local governments will make further arrangements," Pandjaitan elaborated.

Jakarta's lockdown extended

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/jakarta-ex … til-may-22

Jakarta. The large-scale social restriction in the Indonesian capital has been extended by another four weeks until May 22 to contain the spread of coronavirus, Governor Anies Baswedan announced on Wednesday.

Trains

https://en.tempo.co/read/1334620/breaki … ve-jakarta

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - State-owned railway operator PT KAI overseeing the operation area 1 in Jakarta will stop all departures and arrivals in both of their long-distance and local trains starting on Friday, April 24, in an attempt to break the coronavirus chain.

This decision will be made effective as the central government imposes a ban against homecoming traveling, which is known locally as the annual “mudik” tradition.

“The long-distance train services that will shut down its operations are those departing from Gambir, Pasar Senen, and Jakarta Kota Station,” PT KAI operational region 1 spokesperson Eva Chairunisa wrote in Thursday’s release.

Another of our kost room tenants has just lost her job and is moving out today. She was paying Rp1 million a month rent and already paid until 4th of next month. She is the second to have lost her job. However, we have someone viewing on Saturday so hopefully they will like the room as it is one of the larger ones. We are half expecting more to leave as the lockdown and economic situation continues to deteriorate due to the Coronovirus.

On a good note, spent a lot of money at the supermarket this morning, stopped in at a bakery for carrot cake, peach tart, eclairs and muffins, and got a large takeaway order of delicious local food.

https://en.tempo.co/read/1334890/mudik- … al-flights

All flights cancelled

Passenger ships stopped

https://en.tempo.co/read/1334938/sea-tr … bans-mudik

https://en.tempo.co/read/1334908/people … -fine-govt

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - The Transportation Ministry was set to charge people violating the ban on Ramadan mass exodus or mudik with Rp100 million fine and one-year imprisonment at maximum as noted in the Law No. 6/2018 regarding Health Quarantine.

Probably there are very few expats in Indonesia who will return to their home villages during Mudik or Ramadan since they are from overseas.

For the Rp100 million fine and 1 year in prison, the majority of Indonesians do not have anything like that kind of money. The police I am sure will be flexible and I doubt they will put a family in prison for a year. Still, I would assume such news is meant to deter rather than be carried out.

I can only describe this as stupid

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-52391744

The English version of the travel ban
The ban applies until May 31, 2020, for land transportation; June 15, 2020, for railway transportation; June 8, 2020, for sea transportation; and June 1, 2020, for air transportation.

And Greater Jakarta and PSBB areas also:
The regulation bans the use of public vehicles, private vehicles, and motorbikes for entering and departing from regions enacting the Large Scale Social Distancing (PSBB) measures and regions demarcated as COVID-19 red zones, such as Jakarta, Bogor, Depok, Tangerang, and Bekasi

https://en.antaranews.com/news/146660/m … _jR3iTOO2I

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E3dUxs … yv7KP/view

Page 8 relates to support and testing with coronavirus for British expats this is an agreement between UK and Indonesian goverments

The cops are getting serious about stopping cars attempting to get out of Jakarta

https://jakartaglobe.id/news/more-than- … -mudik-ban

Vast reduction with choice and stock in two malls earlier, granted probably not food most indonesians would shop for
Noticed none of the following in either
Orange or apple juice
Cheese of any kind (got about 3kg in freezer)
Yogurts
Butter ( pleanty of lurpak spreadable in freezer)
Fresh milk (next to nothing with long life) got both at home
Mangos (mrs not happy)
All veg was very limited
I only went for flour for the bread making machine and cooking oil and olive oil and got all
I also noticed that products that are usualy 3 or 4 deep are 1 only now pleny of typical foods, pasta has increased about 25/30%,  but can make my own if needed

Gwmeath wrote:

Vast reduction with choice and stock in two malls earlier, granted probably not food most indonesians would shop for

I've noticed luxury items like Rice krispies (my favourite), Tabasco sauce, and a few other things are as rare as it gets, and vitamin tablets and C100 lemon have also all but disappeared disappeared.
I normally buy a C100 once or twice a week because it's delicious, and 4 of my favourite vitamin tablets once a week when we do the big shop, but both have been all but missing since the lockdown.
Dettol antiseptic is returning to the shops but you're limited to 2 bottle. That's fine as 2 small bottles will last a good while. We always use Dettol antiseptic soap for hand washing, have done since I moved to Indonesia, so I'm happy to report that's never been out of stock
We normally buy all disinfectants, cleaning stuff, and washing machine powder for a month anyway, so shopping habits for that stuff have hardly changed.
A few other items have also disappeared, but all the normal stuff like rice, meat, and veggie is all easy to find. Onions went to stupid prices, dropped when Jokowi imported a ship load of the things, but the price is going up again at the moment.
Ramadan stuff is available in whatever quantities you want - I'm guessing shops ordered stocks before this mess so have a lot they're unlikely to sell as the traditional hari raya visiting is very likely to be off this year. Sad as it's a wonderful social occasion.
Oddly, I've noticed an increase in the number of bananas in shops and the quality has improved, so I'm eating a lot of those at the moment. Banana sandwiches - Yummy.