DAILY LIFE IN VIETNAM DURING COVID-19 PANDEMIC 2020-2021

Andybris2020 wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

colinoscapee wrote:

Ciambella, if youre looking for an intelligent conversation, please contact me. If not, please keep conversing with people on here who are not on the same intellectual level that we.

Are you implying we are not intelligent enough? We are clearly higher up the evolutionary Chian making light of the pandemic.. 🤪

Be nice he may brood and be sat waiting for us under a bridge when we visit VT




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Could Shrek be real after all? Does the animated star to the big screen seek solitude and seclusion in downtown VT??? Dun dun dunnnn

Jlgarbutt wrote:

colinoscapee wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

Ill let Colin know they want his mankini back,,,,

Ciambella, if youre looking for an intelligent conversation, please contact me. If not, please keep conversing with people on here who are not on the same intellectual level that we.

Are you implying we are not intelligent enough? We are clearly higher up the evolutionary Chian making light of the pandemic.. 🤪

I didnt mention any names.

It seems some have used inference.

colinoscapee wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

colinoscapee wrote:

Ciambella, if youre looking for an intelligent conversation, please contact me. If not, please keep conversing with people on here who are not on the same intellectual level that we.

Are you implying we are not intelligent enough? We are clearly higher up the evolutionary Chian making light of the pandemic.. 🤪

I didnt mention any names.

It seems some have used inference.

Well that counts me out Ive got my name on the post plus I would have used my spell check on "Chian"?
Sorry buddy but you had it coming was me or him and he would have been more brutal haha

Andybris2020 wrote:

colinoscapee wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Are you implying we are not intelligent enough? We are clearly higher up the evolutionary Chian making light of the pandemic.. 🤪

I didnt mention any names.

It seems some have used inference.

Well that counts me out Ive got my name on the post plus I would have used my spell check on "Chian"?
Sorry buddy but you had it coming was me or him and he would have been more brutal haha

I replaced the chian on my bike last month, lol.

colinoscapee wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

colinoscapee wrote:

I didnt mention any names.

It seems some have used inference.

Well that counts me out Ive got my name on the post plus I would have used my spell check on "Chian"?
Sorry buddy but you had it coming was me or him and he would have been more brutal haha

I replaced the chian on my bike last month, lol.

My bad.. was busy avoiding the rain while carrying groceries and typing.

Jlgarbutt wrote:

colinoscapee wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

Well that counts me out Ive got my name on the post plus I would have used my spell check on "Chian"?
Sorry buddy but you had it coming was me or him and he would have been more brutal haha

I replaced the chian on my bike last month, lol.

My bad.. was busy avoiding the rain while carrying groceries and typing.

you know you aren't good at multi-tasking,, you should gotten your wife to,,,, carry the bags haha

Coming soon to Netflix......

Today they did covid testing again this time they came house to house to stop people going out and mixing.   They did 1 per house.

Is that you sitting on the plastic chair looking very vietnamese?

colinoscapee wrote:

Is that you sitting on the plastic chair looking very vietnamese?

Yes I took the photo on timer then ran and sat down is guess No. 1, Guess No. 2 is I took the photo,,,,

Actually, when they said 1 per house I gallantly pushed GF forward and started taking photos.

Meanwhile while we get tested in house to cut spread of people going out.
Delivery drivers stood close together get tested, only takes a few positives in the crowd for them to spread it all over HCMC across borders.

VNEXPRESS
Shipper queued for nearly 500m waiting for testing
"HO CHI MINH CITY Hundreds of shippers lined up for many hours at mobile medical stations in District 4 and Go Vap waiting for tests for inter-district operations, on the morning of September 20."

Andybris2020 wrote:

Meanwhile while we get tested in house to cut spread of people going out.
Delivery drivers stood close together get tested, only takes a few positives in the crowd for them to spread it all over HCMC across borders.

VNEXPRESS
Shipper queued for nearly 500m waiting for testing
"HO CHI MINH CITY Hundreds of shippers lined up for many hours at mobile medical stations in District 4 and Go Vap waiting for tests for inter-district operations, on the morning of September 20."


That explains why any grab orders always get cancelled... No riders available because they are still  lining up for testing
















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not even arms length away is some photos

tết trung thu..........Mid-Autumn Festival. Gamuda Land gave all the children a special gift for celebration.

goodolboy wrote:

tết trung thu..........Mid-Autumn Festival. Gamuda Land gave all the children a special gift for celebration.








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I bet you pushed some poor kid over and stole their lantern.

colinoscapee wrote:

goodolboy wrote:

tết trung thu..........Mid-Autumn Festival. Gamuda Land gave all the children a special gift for celebration.








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I bet you pushed some poor kid over and stole their lantern.

Why not... they will only break it ☺

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Why not... they will only break it ☺

When I was a child, the lanterns were lit with candles so at least 1/3 were burned halfway through, and by the time the parade was over, more than half were gone.  It was supposed to be a festival for children but it was so dramatic, full of cries and tears every time a lantern was burst into fire.

Ciambella wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Why not... they will only break it ☺

When I was a child, the lanterns were lit with candles so at least 1/3 were burned halfway through, and by the time the parade was over, more than half were gone.  It was supposed to be a festival for children but it was so dramatic, full of cries and tears every time a lantern was burst into fire.

Reminds me of those silly Chinese lanterns you'd get back home. Always a failure.. even ones that did take flight would catch fire at some point.

Instead of lanterns they should use fireworks.. obviously don't give then to kids.. but bangs, flashes and wooshes would be better than the racket the ones I saw earlier today.. one hopes the batteries run out quickly

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Reminds me of those silly Chinese lanterns you'd get back home. Always a failure.. even ones that did take flight would catch fire at some point.

Instead of lanterns they should use fireworks.. obviously don't give then to kids.. but bangs, flashes and wooshes would be better than the racket the ones I saw earlier today.. one hopes the batteries run out quickly

Lanterns were/are the must because Mid Autumn Festival is also Lantern Festival, but battery-operated lanterns would have been safer.

Did they use battery firecrackers in your neighbourhood during this festival?  Those are approved firecrackers to be used during Tet in lieu of regular firecrackers.  Don't hold your breath waiting for the batteries to run out because they can also be plugged in.  I almost bought several strands last Tet because our next door and across the street neighbours turned them on every day for weeks on end, and I wanted revenge.  Too bad my husband refused to let me carry out my nefarious plan.

Ciambella wrote:

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Reminds me of those silly Chinese lanterns you'd get back home. Always a failure.. even ones that did take flight would catch fire at some point.

Instead of lanterns they should use fireworks.. obviously don't give then to kids.. but bangs, flashes and wooshes would be better than the racket the ones I saw earlier today.. one hopes the batteries run out quickly

Lanterns were/are the must because Mid Autumn Festival is also Lantern Festival, but battery-operated lanterns would have been safer.

Did they use battery firecrackers in your neighbourhood during this festival?  Those are approved firecrackers to be used during Tet in lieu of regular firecrackers.  Don't hold your breath waiting for the batteries to run out because they can also be plugged in.  I almost bought several strands last Tet because our next door and across the street neighbours turned them on every day for weeks on end, and I wanted revenge.  Too bad my husband refused to let me carry out my nefarious plan.

Revenge is sweet dear girl......................in my last apartment I have some very noisy neighbours, door open all day, children screaming all fn day, grannies & mothers shouting conversations to each other standing in their apartment doors & of course loud music & karaoke. So I took my revenge for a week, positioned my speakers at my open door & played AC/DC Hells Bells over & over at max volume every day for a week. But even although it was all in vane but made me feel better, after I stopped it was just back to their normal. So I waved the the White Flag & moved to a new apartment & things took a turn for the better at Celadon City thank god.

Just read :-
'The infection rate is decreasing, Ho Chi Minh City can relax the distance'
According to experts, the transmission coefficient of Rt (infection over time) of Ho Chi Minh City is gradually decreasing, while the coverage of the first-line vaccine is high, so the distance can be relaxed from 1/10.

"Interventions in Ho Chi Minh City in the past time have helped reduce deaths and cut down the transmission chain," Professor Phan Trong Lan (Director of Pasteur Ho Chi Minh City) told VnExpress , September 21.'

Fingers crossed the trend continues - Happy Mid-Autumn Festival everyone.

Tuoitre article
"Sellers in traditional markets, wholesale markets, market-goers, and working workers must have a "COVID green card" according to the COVID-19 prevention and control criteria that the People's Committee of Ho Chi Minh City has just issued."

COVID green card is a mandatory condition to go to work, go to the market.

Accordingly, all vendors, market-goers, and workers must have at least a limited "COVID green card" (one dose of vaccine lasts 14 days).

At a traditional market, both sellers and buyers must have a COVID green card, market management staff and those who have little contact with customers must have at least a limited COVID green card.






Link to article

Also from Tuoitre:-
Pfizer confirms the vaccine is effective for children 5-11 years old

In a statement released on September 20, the Pfizer/BioNTech consortium said its two-dose COVID-19 vaccine is safe, and has shown a "strong" immune response in children aged 5 to 11 years.

Based on data obtained from a trial with 2,000 children, the US company Pfizer and its partner BioNTech (Germany) assert that their vaccine is "safe, well tolerated, and shows a strong neutralizing antibody response." strong" for the above 5 to 11 age group.






Link to article

Thanks Andy for the updates.... Happiest Mid Autumn festival

Andybris2020 wrote:

Also from Tuoitre:-
Pfizer confirms the vaccine is effective for children 5-11 years old

In a statement released on September 20, the Pfizer/BioNTech consortium said its two-dose COVID-19 vaccine is safe, and has shown a "strong" immune response in children aged 5 to 11 years.

Based on data obtained from a trial with 2,000 children, the US company Pfizer and its partner BioNTech (Germany) assert that their vaccine is "safe, well tolerated, and shows a strong neutralizing antibody response." strong" for the above 5 to 11 age group.

Link to article

That's great news.    Now the whole world will have to wait many more months for pharmaceuticals to manufacture, and  governments to buy and distribute, 20% more vaccine, until they feel assured all is "safe" for recovery, and for dangerous foreigners to enter their countries.

First they saved Grandma, next Save the Children - who have infinitesimal risk of harm. 

gobot wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

Also from Tuoitre:-
Pfizer confirms the vaccine is effective for children 5-11 years old

In a statement released on September 20, the Pfizer/BioNTech consortium said its two-dose COVID-19 vaccine is safe, and has shown a "strong" immune response in children aged 5 to 11 years.

Based on data obtained from a trial with 2,000 children, the US company Pfizer and its partner BioNTech (Germany) assert that their vaccine is "safe, well tolerated, and shows a strong neutralizing antibody response." strong" for the above 5 to 11 age group.

Link to article

That's great news.    Now the whole world will have to wait many more months for pharmaceuticals to manufacture, and  governments to buy and distribute, 20% more vaccine, until they feel assured all is "safe" for recovery, and for dangerous foreigners to enter their countries.

First they saved Grandma, next Save the Children - who have infinitesimal risk of harm. 

The news reports I have seen from VN Gov advisors seem to be slanted towards maybe living with Covid and focusing the resources on stopping people from getting hospitalized and dying, which seems a better plan, vac the heck out of the high risk and save them over running the health system.

Ive seen the same coming out of other news reports about living with it and vac the high risk.

If vacc's are the answer then why does everyone need one to mix? is it protection or is it not?

Life is good first LAZADA is back delivering  bread & marmalade so tea & toast tomorrow morning & then a delivery of Strongbow from AEON 

goodolboy wrote:

Life is good first LAZADA is back delivering  bread & marmalade so tea & toast tomorrow morning & then a delivery of Strongbow from AEON 

It makes me feel good seeing people (in this case, you) appreciate the little joys that we all took for granted before the lockdown. 

The last time I had Choco Almond Fudge Ice Cream was months ago, and I treasured it so much it took me 3 weeks to finish that small pint.  (My husband is the opposite of me.  Whenever he got a hold of something he liked, he polished it off the quickest possible instead of taking time to savour it.)

FREE AT LAST
VnExpress:-
People in District 7 are excited to exercise outdoors
"HO CHI MINH CITY On the first day of District 7's park opening, many people came to exercise excitedly, feeling like "a bird out of a cage" after more than 3 months in the house."

After months of lockdown, residents are allowed out to exercise., the website includes video.






District  7 go out to exercise

I still see people go out here for unofficially allowed exercise..

Looks like other Asian nations along with Vietnam are looking to adopt a "live with Corona" approach to open up ..


https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/21/asia … index.html

Andybris2020 wrote:

FREE AT LAST
VnExpress:-
People in District 7 are excited to exercise outdoors
"HO CHI MINH CITY On the first day of District 7's park opening, many people came to exercise excitedly, feeling like "a bird out of a cage" after more than 3 months in the house."

After months of lockdown, residents are allowed out to exercise., the website includes video.






District  7 go out to exercise

I have an ex pat friend who lives in District 7 & he told me weeks back "lock down, what lock down" & Its been pretty much life as normal, round where he lives anyways.
Round here I see more & more signs that the people are getting fed up & the barrier tapes are either torn down or removed & people are starting to go out in daily greater numbers to exercise & socialise in the gardens even though I would guess at most only 20% of the residents here have had the two vaccines.

goodolboy wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

FREE AT LAST
VnExpress:-
People in District 7 are excited to exercise outdoors
"HO CHI MINH CITY On the first day of District 7's park opening, many people came to exercise excitedly, feeling like "a bird out of a cage" after more than 3 months in the house."

After months of lockdown, residents are allowed out to exercise., the website includes video.






District  7 go out to exercise

I have an ex pat friend who lives in District 7 & he told me weeks back "lock down, what lock down" & Its been pretty much life as normal, round where he lives anyways.
Round here I see more & more signs that the people are getting fed up & the barrier tapes are either torn down or removed & people are starting to go out in daily greater numbers to exercise & socialise in the gardens even though I would guess at most only 20% of the residents here have had the two vaccines.

I had a an idea that seems to me to make sense - why not test for antibodies and issue "greencard, yellowcard" on the amount, lets say  0-100% over 70% you get a green and over 50% you get a yellow so the amount of antibodies  & thus protection you have the more safe it is for you to go out and mix.

This way people who have had covid get one based on antibodies and also if you have just 1 shot and levels go high because body responds well you get one, people who don't respond well have to wait until safe limit and not just I've had 1 or 2 shots now I want to go mix.

I believe antibody test kits are being developed that show the amount in 15 min.

Andybris2020 wrote:

I believe antibody test kits are being developed that show the amount in 15 min.

My relatives have been testing themselves at home routinely from kits recommended by the MoH.  Not many people will be willing to spend money on that, however.

Ahhhhhh these decisions decisions......toast with butter & cream cheese or toast with butter & marmalade.   Well cheese came out on top today

goodolboy wrote:

Ahhhhhh these decisions decisions......toast with butter & cream cheese or toast with butter & marmalade.   Well cheese came out on top today






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Cheese and vegemite you heathen

Ciambella wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

I believe antibody test kits are being developed that show the amount in 15 min.

My relatives have been testing themselves at home routinely from kits recommended by the MoH.  Not many people will be willing to spend money on that, however.

   yeah , not at home - I meant instead of up the nose or 14 days after 2nd shot, they do an antibody test if you have high level then you get a greencard not based on anything but your antibody level if higher than the level set by health minister then your good to go if not then you may need a further booster or some other medical intervention to protect you.

The test would only work if it was like a blood sugar test or saliva test and quick for the readout, staff mark your result down on your form like they do now but it then added into a database and you get your digital greencard added in your health app.

Takes all the politics out of it doesn't matter who you are, you have a high level of antibodies or you don't.
High level less risk of going out and getting it and ending up in the hospital.
Low level you're going to end up in hospital if you go out so no greencard.

Some people have had 2 shots and still have low antibodies and some with 1 have high level so why not do any roam free policy on your antibodies and your risk of putting more pressure o the health system.

Your antibody level changes over time so maybe get it done every 3 -6 months? and if lower then you get a booster?

So then all the vacc are pointed towards those at risk?

Ciambella wrote:

Andybris2020 wrote:

I believe antibody test kits are being developed that show the amount in 15 min.

My relatives have been testing themselves at home routinely from kits recommended by the MoH.  Not many people will be willing to spend money on that, however.

No point self-testing in our hood. 
Spacemen are still rounding up humans for a quick free swizzle twice a week.

Ciambella wrote:

The last time I had Choco Almond Fudge Ice Cream was months ago, and I treasured it so much it took me 3 weeks to finish that small pint.  (My husband is the opposite of me.  Whenever he got a hold of something he liked, he polished it off the quickest possible instead of taking time to savour it.)

Fundamental to our lizard brain. Men finish fast.
So then they can get back to their post, Defending the Family from Invaders and Wild Animals.
And maybe caveman some seconds of ice cream. 

Proposed fine of 600,000 VND for motorbike riders who do not wear helmets
"he proposed fine for motorcyclists not wearing a helmet is proposed to double now, to 600,000 VND, according to the draft decree on sanctioning administrative violations.

The Ministry of Transport has just submitted to the Government a draft Decree amending and supplementing a number of articles of the decrees sanctioning administrative violations in the maritime domain; road and railway traffic; air. There are many proposed fines that increase sharply compared to the current one.

Specifically, motorcyclists, motorbikes without helmets are currently fined 200,000-300,000 VND, proposed to increase to 400,000-600,000 VND.
Motorcyclists who do not have a driving license or a driving license that is not issued by a competent authority, has been erased or is invalid, is currently fined 0.8-1.2 million VND, expected to increase to 1- 2 million dong.

Motorcycle riders over 175cm3, tricycles without driving license or invalid license are currently fined 3-4 million VND, expected to increase 4-5 million VND"

gobot wrote:

First they saved Grandma, next Save the Children - who have infinitesimal risk of harm. 

Unless it's YOUR child.