Income taxes

cdw057 wrote:

Interesting development, if one is under 65 I think you have to have a passport, residency permit, health-card and tax-card.
I have lived in many countries (Netherlands, UK, Luxembourg and now Hungary) and I do not know why but always issues with spelling of names (in Hungary also mothers maiden name is a challenge).
This has never been an issue but for whatever reason this year there is a real challenge for even 1 letter  not matching.
I was advised to go to tax office and notary (I hope I can avoid this)

Just a message that apparently tax-authorities are checking and try to match  things to the letter (frustrating I have to say)
I have three (or even four first names) and my mothers name was misspelled in one document.

Anybody had the same experience?

All the time. 

I have a last name which is often misheard for a typical German name and they change the spelling to what they think they've heard.  They also get the name order mixed up. 

Not only that, one our Fluffyettes has a relatively unusual British   first name they mishear that and get the gender wrong.   

Our second Fluffyette has a very normal HU and UK name and they never get that wrong at all.

Travelling agency? I am amazed for income tax in Hungary, I prefer my accounting
company to do it for me, but even that seems to be challenging.

I am curious to the link though, I will be careful with clicking though. Travelling agency dealing with my personal income taxes, most remarkable. I will not share passport, TAX ID residency card and Health Insurance.

I will forward the link to the accounting company though, but I will inform then to stay careful.

I received a contact request, but I do not even date to click this, where are you from, what is your background and cant you just post the link of the travel agency dealing with Hungarian income taxes?
Apologies, but I am very suspicious, even if your intentions might be very good.

I saw an email address, but surely a company offering services should have an official website. Doing services from Switzerland is fine, but how do they perform there services without a Hungarian representative?
Official website please?

I saw that Drrufu Saphonsus only joined today, can I ask what is the link to Hungary (and Hungarian income taxes) if you live in the US. Perhaps you follow already for years, but I am very suspicious, unless you come up with a feasible answer I think it is best if the moderator reviews.

Same for my wife, no issues at all
I will not blame my parents, but easy names would have been more convenient.

Eg Just   Ed Miller        for example would have done the trick, having several first names on the other hand also shows respect to family.
Too late anyhow (one complicating factor is that in the Netherlands you can have a Christian (called xxx) and an official first name (they differ in my case (nightmares of the years))

cdw057 wrote:

Same for my wife, no issues at all
I will not blame my parents, but easy names would have been more convenient.

Eg Just   Ed Miller        for example would have done the trick, having several first names on the other hand also shows respect to family.
Too late anyhow (one complicating factor is that in the Netherlands you can have a Christian (called xxx) and an official first name (they differ in my case (nightmares of the years))

Oh I know that issue in NL.   I was told, call Ton so I looked up Anton in the office phone book and nowhere to be found.  So I asked someone else and it was some other name like Klaus Maria.  And when I asked Ton, he said all the members of his family had the same name!

cdw057 wrote:

I saw that Drrufu Saphonsus only joined today, can I ask what is the link to Hungary (and Hungarian income taxes) if you live in the US. Perhaps you follow already for years, but I am very suspicious, unless you come up with a feasible answer I think it is best if the moderator reviews.

Already spotted.

Spotted what

cdw057 wrote:

Same for my wife, no issues at all
I will not blame my parents, but easy names would have been more convenient.

Eg Just   Ed Miller        for example would have done the trick, having several first names on the other hand also shows respect to family.
Too late anyhow (one complicating factor is that in the Netherlands you can have a Christian (called xxx) and an official first name (they differ in my case (nightmares of the years))

My niece and son have unusual first names.
My maiden name always confused my teachers, not a one of them could pronounce it correctly.
I was called ,"Pollack" or "Polluck" so many times I thought they had it in for the Poles.
My birth certificate has the name of where my father was born on it.
The US immigration officer who took their info as they entered Ellis Island wrote it all wrong. It states, Concooca. What language is that?
It is actually Kunkowa, huge difference.
Some people in charge of spelling should just go back to school.
My son has a Hawaiian middle name as well as a strange first name.
Just mins after he was born the clerk came in to register his name,She was Hawaiian herself and you'd think she knew her own language, but no.
It was spelled wrong on his birth certificate so I had to go into the courthouse and have it corrected. Now he has a slash on his papers and another name added on top in the proper form.
I also went to court when he was 3 and changed his last name, man his birth certificate is so written over it looks like a bad copy from a drunk.

As I moved around quite a bit, more than the average issues on official documents, Hungary is no exception, but to be fair, it is and was the same in other countries as well,
I hope with pension coming in in the future it will not be a major obstacle, I am a bit paranoid and i therefore keep very carefully my salary slips (up to 30 years ago).

fluffy2560 wrote:

cdw057 wrote:

Same for my wife, no issues at all
I will not blame my parents, but easy names would have been more convenient.

Eg Just   Ed Miller        for example would have done the trick, having several first names on the other hand also shows respect to family.
Too late anyhow (one complicating factor is that in the Netherlands you can have a Christian (called xxx) and an official first name (they differ in my case (nightmares of the years))

Oh I know that issue in NL.   I was told, call Ton so I looked up Anton in the office phone book and nowhere to be found.  So I asked someone else and it was some other name like Klaus Maria.  And when I asked Ton, he said all the members of his family had the same name!

My wife has a "roepnaam" and it causes chaos whenever we travel anywhere.  We've given up trying to sit together on aircraft.  What makes it worse is that her actual registered name is spelt the Dutch way, but whenever she has registered anywhere (the biggest culprit is the NHS where she actually works), they won't use her roepnaam, insisting on using her official name, but then spell it the English way, so when they subsequently ask for ID, of course, nothing agrees and we spend the next 30 minutes arguing the toss.

It doesn't help that where, on marriage, Dutch ladies passports retain their maiden name, to add to the confusion, they add the annotation "echtgenote van" and then add my surname.  You should see the mess that flight computer-generated manifests make of that.

Over the years I've become convinced that stupidity is not something you can assign to a certain race or creed, if you put a stupid person in charge of something, they remain stupid, but the higher up the chain they get, they become even more convinced that their stupidity is in fact genius and god forbid that anybody puts that person in a bloody uniform.

A very frustrating topic indeed, luckily my wife does not have this challenge, but I do (triple I would say).
Getting a legal proof that your called name is actually equal to passport name is a real challenge (and honestly I still did not complete). Having said that I trust that if I can prove that I received salary on my own account I hope I can also receive pensions on those accounts. Even if I left the Netherlands for almost 30 years I will keep my historic account open.

Cynic wrote:

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My wife has a "roepnaam" and it causes chaos whenever we travel anywhere.  We've given up trying to sit together on aircraft.  What makes it worse is that her actual registered name is spelt the Dutch way, but whenever she has registered anywhere (the biggest culprit is the NHS where she actually works), they won't use her roepnaam, insisting on using her official name, but then spell it the English way, so when they subsequently ask for ID, of course, nothing agrees and we spend the next 30 minutes arguing the toss.

It doesn't help that where, on marriage, Dutch ladies passports retain their maiden name, to add to the confusion, they add the annotation "echtgenote van" and then add my surname.  You should see the mess that flight computer-generated manifests make of that.

Over the years I've become convinced that stupidity is not something you can assign to a certain race or creed, if you put a stupid person in charge of something, they remain stupid, but the higher up the chain they get, they become even more convinced that their stupidity is in fact genius and god forbid that anybody puts that person in a bloody uniform.

Roepnaam - I'd completely forgotten about that word.  Real oddity of NL life.   My eldest was born in NL and doesn't have a roepnaam but does has a Dutch name but respelt to Anglicise it a bit to make it easier to pronounce.    Going to NL, they get it wrong by rewriting it the Dutch way or they get confused why my sprog isn't Dutch!

Mrs Fluffy kept her maiden name and doesn't go in for that Fluffy-ne business around here.   At one time, we'd booked a hotel in Dubai and we weren't married.  We thought we'd get into bother over her having a different name to me.  However, in Arabic countries, or in at least some of them,  it seems married women keep their own name.   So we managed to get away with that one.   

On the other hand, it means all the kids have a different name to her (they have my family name) which caused some odd behaviour at Luton airport with the immigration people pre-2004 accession of Hungary - whose kids are they?  I expect we'll see some odd questions post-Brexit now.  But the kids will soon let anyone know who Mum and Dad are.

That stupidity thing has a name - The Peter Principle.  People are promoted to their level of incompetence.  I've always kept it in mind and found it to be pretty much true - applies to PMs as well as roadsweepers.

fluffy2560 wrote:

.... That stupidity thing has a name - The Peter Principle.  People are promoted to their level of incompetence.  I've always kept it in mind and found it to be pretty much true - applies to PMs as well as roadsweepers.

I first came across that at the French/Italian border at Mt Blanc; we were based in Courmayeur and used to clear UK government cargo through the customs process there (did you know that NATO trumps the EU?).  Anyway, one night the usual team were off at some celebration and they brought in some Carabinieri guys to cover for them.  That's where I learnt that a farmer in a Carabinieri uniform is actually still a farmer.

Cynic wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

.... That stupidity thing has a name - The Peter Principle.  People are promoted to their level of incompetence.  I've always kept it in mind and found it to be pretty much true - applies to PMs as well as roadsweepers.

I first came across that at the French/Italian border at Mt Blanc; we were based in Courmayeur and used to clear UK government cargo through the customs process there (did you know that NATO trumps the EU?).  Anyway, one night the usual team were off at some celebration and they brought in some Carabinieri guys to cover for them.  That's where I learnt that a farmer in a Carabinieri uniform is actually still a farmer.

Yes, I did know NATO trumps the EU - supranationality.  EU means nothing in many places - EU who? This has some relevance on the argument in the UK over if the EU Ambassador is actually that rather than say, Head of Mission or Representative Office.  I have some sympathy with the UK  view of it.

Post-Kosovo conflict, I interviewed a guy once who had been a senior summat in some Yugoslav organisation.  I asked him what he did in his spare time and he said he liked to hang out with his cows. 

I didn't ask what he was actually doing with them and I didn't have a problem with that per se but I sure wish he'd taken a bath and changed his clothes before coming in to discuss it.