More than 90 days, not visa runner...

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You shall get another 90 days stay after visiting some neighbouring country.
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You come make a day trip to Singapore from Johor after the borders open. After you return to Johor you get another 90 days visa without any problems. I have done this before COVID-19 many times during my visits to Singapore because hotels like AMARI Hotel near the old crossing bridge much cheaper in Johor. Malaysia now requires per-entry pass approval from the immigration before arrival it can be done online. If you need more information please contact me on WhatsApp: ‪ ***

Good luck

Sorry you can make a day……

I'm not sure what your planning to do is possible now that the boarders are tightly control. Specifically if your going to Singapore or Thailand where the boards have been closed cos of spikes in covid.  Your best bet is to apply for a Malaysian second home visa that last 10-years. You will have to deposit big money 250K  in a non interest being account or buy a property here equal to that amount. In addition you will need a monthly income of RM10K or more as a foreigner. Why all these financial requirements it's to keep you from becoming dependent on the local government as some 600  foreigners became trapped here during the pandemic without any food or supply. I recently had to sponsor my friend whom was trapped in KL without food.  Thailand also has a new entry requirement that you must have expat health insurance that pays medical expenses if your planning to jalan there. Head on over to expatgo.com for more details on my.second.home.

MM2H At this time is suspend until further notice. Plus the fix deposit is RM150K not RM250K, I am in Johor and my fix deposit for MM2H paid 2.6% annual interest. Purchasing property rule does not apply anymore but after a year you can draw out RM50,000 for the purpose of buying a car, a house or for healthcare. This required approval in advance of draw out so Bank can release the money

Hi
I dont think getting another 90 days when returning to Malaysia after short exiting applies anymore. Since beginning of 2021 Malaysian immigration have changed this to just fourteen days. Malaysia has changed their stance on foreigners continually using this facility to stay in Malaysia.

Beware of people saying "in the past"

I assume you mean late 2022 as no way will travel be possible in 2021. Even 2022 winter, at least 59% chance no travel to Malaysia.

When things get back to normal, Malaysia before the pandemic was getting fussy and trying to stop people renewing 3m visas. You use to be able to extend to 6m at immi, but with the provision you had to be out of the country after that, so worth asking.

You could also do 3m in Malaysia then go to Thailand (1 month) then Vietnam a month. Bit of variety.

HI there,

Visa run is getting more difficult for the past couple of years, as you rightly pointed out, to curb illegal immigration and misuse of the social visit pass for long term stay.

If you keep the visa run to once a year, it might still be doable (based on what was happening pre-pandemic).
But we don’t know what’s going to happen when the border reopens post-pandemic.

The West/Peninsular MM2H programme is still suspended, my guess is, it will be tougher to apply for under the new policy.

Alternatively, you could look into Sarawak MM2H programme. The terms and conditions are friendlier for those above 50 years old.

If you can prove receiving a fixed monthly income/pension equivalent to RM10,000.00, you will be exempted from placing the fixed deposit.

The Sarawak MM2H visa allows you to stay in both West/Peninsular Malaysia and Sarawak. The only catch is, you are required to visit Sarawak and stay for a minimum of 15 days every year.

Hope this information is useful for your planning.

Best regards.

Is the Sarawak MM2H program still active despite the federal MM2H program being on indefinite pause?

HI Brodi,

Yes, the Sarawak MM2H is active. In fact the current Sarawak MM2H programme was just launched in September 2020.

Do let me know if you need more information, more than happy to share with you.

Best regards,
Jonathan

ey8900 wrote:

On arrival we get a 90 days visa which until now has been sufficient, but now we would like to stay a little longer...

Then get a long-term visit pass.

We are aware of every law and regulation concerning immigration, and also about the MM2H program, which is not finacially within our budget at the moment, maybe later. And we certainly do not want to do something not quite within the local laws.

If you're aware of every law then what are you asking for exactly?

We are aware that Malaysia, as all countries, actively tries to keep illegal immigration on a minimum level, but our question is now about how to stay more than the 90 days we get on arrival.

So, do we get another 90 days if we do a trip to some neighboring country, we would love to see more of SE Asia, but what happens when we come back to Malaysia? Do we get another 90 days visa or not, this imformation is essential regarding booking return flight home.

Nobody here will be able to answer this, nobody knows how countries will handle tourists and visas for tourists, but even then you're saying you're not doing visa runs... That's exactly what you're doing, if you're planning on retiring on tourist stamps.

Any feedback highly appreciated...

Answers are in bold within comment.

If you want to stay here long-term there are only a few options:

Start a company and issue yourselves employment passes. (Not cheap)

Get SMM2H, it only requires RM 10,000 a month in fixed income or depositing RM 150,000.

Get an employment pass and dependent pass, with an organization of some sort.

Get approved for a long-term visit pass, for whatever reason.

Or just spend a certain amount of time here, legally as a tourist, and be prepared to bounce around.

It might not be as simple as it was before COVID-19.

Sindebad wrote:

MM2H At this time is suspend until further notice. Plus the fix deposit is RM150K not RM250K, I am in Johor and my fix deposit for MM2H paid 2.6% annual interest. Purchasing property rule does not apply anymore but after a year you can draw out RM50,000 for the purpose of buying a car, a house or for healthcare. This required approval in advance of draw out so Bank can release the money

MM2H isnt suspended, Malaysia just announced new and harsher rules for and I think the deposit is RM1 million. In any thats for another thread and is not relevant to the posters question.

FireRooster1 wrote:

ey8900 wrote:

On arrival we get a 90 days visa which until now has been sufficient, but now we would like to stay a little longer...

Then get a long-term visit pass.

We are aware of every law and regulation concerning immigration, and also about the MM2H program, which is not finacially within our budget at the moment, maybe later. And we certainly do not want to do something not quite within the local laws.

If you're aware of every law then what are you asking for exactly?

We are aware that Malaysia, as all countries, actively tries to keep illegal immigration on a minimum level, but our question is now about how to stay more than the 90 days we get on arrival.

So, do we get another 90 days if we do a trip to some neighboring country, we would love to see more of SE Asia, but what happens when we come back to Malaysia? Do we get another 90 days visa or not, this imformation is essential regarding booking return flight home.

Nobody here will be able to answer this, nobody knows how countries will handle tourists and visas for tourists, but even then you're saying you're not doing visa runs... That's exactly what you're doing, if you're planning on retiring on tourist stamps.

Any feedback highly appreciated...

Answers are in bold within comment.

If you want to stay here long-term there are only a few options:

Start a company and issue yourselves employment passes. (Not cheap)

Get SMM2H, it only requires RM 10,000 a month in fixed income or depositing RM 150,000.

Get an employment pass and dependent pass, with an organization of some sort.

Get approved for a long-term visit pass, for whatever reason.

Or just spend a certain amount of time here, legally as a tourist, and be prepared to bounce around.

It might not be as simple as it was before COVID-19.

New rules have been announced already, including RM 1 million deposit and RM40,000 fixed income but thats for a different thread.

EY8900,

Malaysia doesnt have a slightly longer visa of any kind. The programs that offer long visas dont sound like what you are looking for right now and so my only suggestion is one visa run.

At the moment there are a number of problems. You have to get permission to come and to my knowledge no social/tourist visits are allowed due to covid. Youd have to have an urgent and special reason for coming and there may be other reasons too. Youd also have to serve a 2-week quarantine which has had the restriction of having to pre-pay the quarantine and then be under government care, although there was an announcement they were going to allow at-home quarantine but I dont know the effective date. Have you been vaxxed? Thats an issue too. Only a few days ago there was an announcement about only letting in vaxxed people --  when the time comes for letting people in. And the neighboring countries to where you would have the visa run may not be letting someone come and go due to covid. Singapore did announce they were opening the country further but Im not sure how the latest rules would apply to you. In any case, you would have vax restrictions in any of the other places too but Im not clear what each country is doing at this time.

In short, its a poor time to try to come. Its locked down for the unvaxxed and mildly open for the vaxxed, meaning that even if you could come your movements would be restricted in the country and that would also affect your ability to leave for a visa run. Example, Im an american trying to leave since March 2020 and while currently there are flights, Im not allowed the trip to the airport due to lockdown.

Further to your question, YES in theory you would get another 90 days on re-arrival in Malaysia but again, all bets are off at the moment due to covid.

You can try to keep up on changes here:
https://myentry.myxpats.com.my/app/

and here:
https://mtp.imi.gov.my/myTravelPass/main

and the main page here:
https://www.imi.gov.my/

I assumed by your question you were referring to visiting west Malaysia (KL, Penang). If you are only talking about east Malaysia (Sarawak, Sabah) Im not personally aware of differences in entry/exit right now but maybe someone else can chime in if east is allowing tourists right now or very soon,

Lastly, do keep up with airline conditions and restrictions to/from anywhere as obviously those would affect your plans regardless of what Malaysia is doing. Your airline of choice will have sections devoted to covid and their special rules, and also Skyscanner.com will highlight restrictions to a place when you are trying to look at tickets and prices to those places. Also, does Finland have an embassy in Malaysia? They would also know the rules as well. Ok I checked and there is an embassy here. Please contact them about your specific situation and see if they have anything helpful.
https://www.embassy-worldwide.com/embas … -malaysia/

The rules of internal movement and travel are confusing and frequently changed. Im doing my best for you but I cant even properly keep up, to be honest. My head is spinning from being locked down far too long.

SMM2H, not MM2H...