Is The Philippines Right for Me
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I have just returned from the Philippines after spending three weeks there and returning to the Uk via a four night stop in HCMC and I am questioning if the Philippines is the right place for me to eventually retire in a few years. I may upset a few people later in this post and for that I am sorry.I had a great time with my girlfriend and beautiful 2 year old daughter in Cagayan De Oro and spent the last 3 days in Mactan/Cebu with my beautiful girlfriend exploring and relaxing. The relationship is certainly not the problem here but the Philippines itself.So this is what I found difficult:The insects and bugs and getting a good nights sleep because of the noise of the cockerels crowing. The heat and constantly sweating throughout the day, Eating rice daily.And now for the controversial bit, the grime, the litter, seeing rivers and streams poluted, dirty beaches, people using the street as a public toilet and talking of toilets, I stayed in Pasay for 2 nights, one at the start and one at the end of my visit and although I did not explore the area much I would compare most of the area to a dirty public toilet and the buildings or most of the structures that pass for homes need, in my opinion, demolishing. I have never seen such an awful place in all my life. And some of Cagayan De Oro was the same so my questions are: Is the Philippines the right place for me and can I do anything to overcome these issues?Of the few places I have visited in the Philippines, I think only Davao would be a viable option for me.And did I mention the ants, everywhere haha- @Cherryann01
Yes its common its very dirty (outside) by the common is having the habbit to just throw garnage anywhere even candy wrap papers at their own farm! A foreigner had big problems to try to teach relatives to stop that. He tried by put them including himself at cleaning up. I dont know if he has succeeded.So this is what I found difficult:The insects and bugs and getting a good nights sleep because of the noise of the cockerels crowing. The heat and constantly sweating throughout the day, Eating rice daily.And now for the controversial bit, the grime, the litter, seeing rivers and streams poluted, dirty beaches, people using the street as a public toilet and talking of toilets, I stayed in Pasay for 2 nights, one at the start and one at the end of my visit and although I did not explore the area much I would compare most of the area to a dirty public toilet and the buildings or most of the structures that pass for homes need, in my opinion, demolishing. I have never seen such an awful place in all my life. And some of Cagayan De Oro was the same so my questions are: Is the Philippines the right place for me and can I do anything to overcome these issues?Of the few places I have visited in the Philippines, I think only Davao would be a viable option for me.And did I mention the ants, everywhere haha- @Cherryann01
@onefogarty ...well.... not 3 times... but definitely alot more... I was paying about 750 - 850 before the Scamdemic from Washington State to Manila... Now, my flight in February 10th - March 8 was $1,100, and in March 28th (I had to come back for 3 weeks for business) was $1,200... I just got back here to Washington on May 29th, and booked my next flight in early August, and it is $1,400(and the days i fly are very flexible, so that was on the cheap side of the flights...So almost double! ... but I am getting very close to staying much longer each time now, so all good 👍🏻
@Cherryann01 .... so... Everything you said was definitely true... The Philippines is definitely an acquired taste as far as daily life... there is the bad... garbage, and filth, etc... like you said, and there is the good... (My beautiful Fiancee, nice warm weather, beaches(some nicer than others)... some absolutely amazing and the most beautiful I have ever seen... if you explore and find them... and friendly people, etc... But I do understand... When I first came to Philippines, I met a gal in Dasmarinas, Cavite near Manila... Dirty, soggy, nasty place... hated it... but if take the time and go to see other places... you will find really amazing, beautiful areas... of course the shack houses are everywhere you go... it is a third world country... and that is part of living here... on the flip side... I am sure you did not complain about paying $10 - $15 bucks for a nice dinner for you and your gal either... or the hotel that was only $40.00 either... so it is give and take.... But definitely not for everyone... For Me... I love it all... Fake Care and good luck... if you try again... I suggest meet her and her son in Manila, and fly to Palawam... go see the Subterranean river, El Nido area, and do at least 1 island hop tour there... Incredible, incredible beauty, and the water... wow... can see down to the bottom of 15 feet if water...crystal clear... Like being in another world... and the subterranean river... 100% one if the 7 wonders of the world... Draw dropping...
Thank you for that and that was actually my next plan when visiting my girlfriend, to ask her to meet me in Manila, stay a couple of nights and then get on the plane to Palawan and go to El Nido and see the best the Philippines has to offer. Then I will spend some time back in Cagayan De Oro with my girl and daughter.- @Cherryann01
@onefogarty ...well.... not 3 times... but definitely alot more... I was paying about 750 - 850 before the Scamdemic from Washington State to Manila... Now, my flight in February 10th - March 8 was $1,100, and in March 28th (I had to come back for 3 weeks for business) was $1,200... I just got back here to Washington on May 29th, and booked my next flight in early August, and it is $1,400(and the days i fly are very flexible, so that was on the cheap side of the flights...So almost double! ... but I am getting very close to staying much longer each time now, so all good 👍🏻
- @Wellsfry
@blacksheepjuno Where did you end up retiring? Just curious...
@onefogarty i use Google mostly... just type (your preferred city to depart) to Manila... and the dates... it will bring up prices... then go back one step, and a calendar comes up... and brings up lowest available prices for each day for all airlines..... scan the calender... pick the lowest depart and arrive day, and length of trip,.etc... and that's it... by far better and cheaper than any app I have seen... And I shop them all to check.
@blacksheepjuno Where did you end up retiring? Just curious...
- @Wellsfry
@onefogarty i use Google mostly... just type (your preferred city to depart) to Manila... and the dates... it will bring up prices... then go back one step, and a calendar comes up... and brings up lowest available prices for each day for all airlines..... scan the calender... pick the lowest depart and arrive day, and length of trip,.etc... and that's it... by far better and cheaper than any app I have seen... And I shop them all to check.
- @Wellsfry
You have to realise that the Philippines is a third world country, I live near Laguindingan airport very near to Cagayan De Oro and i find that so many things that you complain about just don't affect me out here. Forget eating rice, today for my lunch I had fettuccine carbonara and most days my wife cooks potatoes, mashed, roasted, or french fries etc. You don't have to accept what your wife/gf offers you, you can always decline and find a restaurant that serves food that you like, if you do that once then I'm sure your wife/gf will try to cook according to your taste. As far as the bugs and ants are concerned that is just down to where you live and how much you are prepared to do to eliminate them.
Thank you for that and that was actually my next plan when visiting my girlfriend, to ask her to meet me in Manila, stay a couple of nights and then get on the plane to Palawan and go to El Nido and see the best the Philippines has to offer. Then I will spend some time back in Cagayan De Oro with my girl and daughter.- @Cherryann01
@gsturdee Good read... I plan to visit CDO next time I come(August)... Getting some work done here in Washington (State). I heard there is a "costco" there? Or something very similar to one... so I plan to make the 8 hour drive soon after returning... Can't wait... been here only 1 week in Washington and miss my girl, and everything else terribly... plan to stay 3 months this next go around to move into our beach home we are purchasing... anyways... cheers... would love to stop and have a beer with you when we arrive to CDO...
@Cherryann01 Welcome. It's a pretty town called Kelso on The Borders, about an hours drive from Edinburgh.
@Wellsfry Cheers ! Our place is Bantayan Island north of Cebu. There's a sandy beach and some boutique resorts, and you'd be most welcome. I'm back there 6th July.
@gsturdee Small world, I was born and grew up in Edinburgh, live in California and now exploring a move to the Philippines. Nice to see such a wide range of people here 🙂
@Enzyte Bob I know, obviously, that you can't recreate the standard of living in a 3rd world country that you would have in a 1st world one. But I'm guessing that if finances were not a problem, you can pretty much buy the same (or most) goods/products you can get in the west?
Yes, this is very much true. You can find the 'South Asian equivalent' to many of your needs for just about anything.
However, that being said, if you an adamant customer to a certain North American brand of something, be prepared to pay a little more for them as they are considered imported goods. Even a bag of Doritos or Lays costs a little more than they normally would if you do some quick mental math. the cost at retail is a few dollars more than if you were just to buy them anywhere in North America.
@kristopherryanwatson Thanks for the response. I know using a VPN and an Amazon firestick you can watch US channels like HBO, Netflix etc and if all/most western foods/goods are available (even if a few bucks more) said like you can create a pretty decent life there
Life can be beautiful here if you can keep it simple and keep your expenses in mind. however, you can really stretch your Peso, especially so if you're a retired gentleman and are expecting your monthly severance from your US pension or other Investments.
@kristopherryanwatson Thanks for the VPN confirmation. I'll be ok financially so not too worried about having to stretch dollars. Looking to get out of the western rat race find a decent partner and life as stress free live based on Asia so Philippines seems like the place to be. Will be making my first trip there next month.
@Parvaze
Yes, this is very much true. You can find the 'South Asian equivalent' to many of your needs for just about anything.- @kristopherryanwatson
However, that being said, if you an adamant customer to a certain North American brand of something, be prepared to pay a little more for them as they are considered imported goods. Even a bag of Doritos or Lays costs a little more than they normally would if you do some quick mental math. the cost at retail is a few dollars more than if you were just to buy them anywhere in North America.
A great choice. I am sure you'll find a very honorable and dignified woman to suit your tastes and preferences. There is no shortage of them, that is for sure.
@kristopherryanwatson I'm looking into Subic/Clark mainly with Davao/Cebu as potential other choices. I'm looking forward to seeing things for myself 🙂
@Enzyte Bob I'm not much into fast foods so no worries there. Would miss my Costco and Trader Joe's fixes through 😁
I am not looking to rush into anything here but I do know I want to be with my girlfriend and daughter one day in a few years time and maybe she will consider relocating to another part of the Philippines.- @Cherryann01
@Enzyte Bob I'm not much into fast foods so no worries there. Would miss my Costco and Trader Joe's fixes through 😁
- @Parvaze
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