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Bushrakhanam1988

Hello everyone ,


i a German national ( through neutralization ), would like to bring my mom in Germany. She is 54y old , retired , widow and leaving alone in Bangladesh. As per Bangladesh social system parents get depended to the children in their old age. I have checked and did not find any visa to apply foe her . she has been in Germany 4 times with her tourist visa , which allows her only 3 months to stay with me. But as she is getting old and considering some other circumstance is becoming difficult for her to leave alone in Bangladesh or even traveling to Germany oft .


i have a house and proper job to take her responsibility in Germany. I would really appreciate if i could get a lead for how to bring her in Germany with long term visa.


Thank you in advance.

Sincerely ,

Bushra

ALKB

Hello everyone ,
i a German national ( through neutralization ), would like to bring my mom in Germany. She is 54y old , retired , widow and leaving alone in Bangladesh. As per Bangladesh social system parents get depended to the children in their old age. I have checked and did not find any visa to apply foe her . she has been in Germany 4 times with her tourist visa , which allows her only 3 months to stay with me. But as she is getting old and considering some other circumstance is becoming difficult for her to leave alone in Bangladesh or even traveling to Germany oft .

i have a house and proper job to take her responsibility in Germany. I would really appreciate if i could get a lead for how to bring her in Germany with long term visa.

Thank you in advance.
Sincerely ,
Bushra
-@Bushrakhanam1988


Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult to get a residence visa for parents who are third country nationals. The bar is set very high, they´d basically would have to be destitute and unabale to take care of themselves physically.


Also, 54 is still considered middle aged in Europe, it´s about ten years below retirement age, so she might get suspected to be planning to work under the table in Germany.


Don´t forget that you would also not be able to put her on your health insurance policy as a family memeber, only spouses and dependent children count for that. She´d have to either be "voluntarily" insured (if she can get a provider to insure her, as Germany and Bangladesh don´t have a health care treaty, as far as I know) or private insurance which is also difficult to get and gets more expensive the older the person gets.


Having applied for and getting rejected for a visa that leads to a long term stay and possibly settlement can also make it a lot more difficult to get visitor visas in teh future.


How established are you in Germany? Could you move?


It would be a lot easier for you to relocate to an EU country that you don´t hold citizenship of, get a job there and as soon as you have a couple of payslips, rental agreement, are in the health system, etc. your mother can apply as a direct family member under EU freedom of movement, which is a lot more lenient than domestic immigration rules.


Otherwise you might want to think about moving back to Bangladesh during your mother´s old age. I don´t know what your job is but maybe you could work remotely for your existing German employer?

beppi

On top of all that: Even if you manage to prove that your mother is incapacitated and there is no way for her to continue living in her country - she also needs basic German skills to join you here. Did she already start learning it?

SimCityAT

Hello everyone ,
i a German national ( through neutralization ), would like to bring my mom in Germany. She is 54y old , retired , widow and leaving alone in Bangladesh. As per Bangladesh social system parents get depended to the children in their old age. I have checked and did not find any visa to apply foe her . she has been in Germany 4 times with her tourist visa , which allows her only 3 months to stay with me. But as she is getting old and considering some other circumstance is becoming difficult for her to leave alone in Bangladesh or even traveling to Germany oft .

i have a house and proper job to take her responsibility in Germany. I would really appreciate if i could get a lead for how to bring her in Germany with long term visa.

Thank you in advance.
Sincerely ,
Bushra
-@Bushrakhanam1988

Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult to get a residence visa for parents who are third country nationals. The bar is set very high, they´d basically would have to be destitute and unabale to take care of themselves physically.

Also, 54 is still considered middle aged in Europe, it´s about ten years below retirement age, so she might get suspected to be planning to work under the table in Germany.

Don´t forget that you would also not be able to put her on your health insurance policy as a family memeber, only spouses and dependent children count for that. She´d have to either be "voluntarily" insured (if she can get a provider to insure her, as Germany and Bangladesh don´t have a health care treaty, as far as I know) or private insurance which is also difficult to get and gets more expensive the older the person gets.

Having applied for and getting rejected for a visa that leads to a long term stay and possibly settlement can also make it a lot more difficult to get visitor visas in teh future.

How established are you in Germany? Could you move?

It would be a lot easier for you to relocate to an EU country that you don´t hold citizenship of, get a job there and as soon as you have a couple of payslips, rental agreement, are in the health system, etc. your mother can apply as a direct family member under EU freedom of movement, which is a lot more lenient than domestic immigration rules.

Otherwise you might want to think about moving back to Bangladesh during your mother´s old age. I don´t know what your job is but maybe you could work remotely for your existing German employer?
-@ALKB

They both could move to Austria, but like Germany, the mother would have to have her own insurance. Private or into the state system. Both can be expensive. Given her age, she would have to have an extensive medical examination to prove that she is unable to work. Like Beppi says, she would also need German skills and have at least A1 level.

ALKB

Hello everyone ,
i a German national ( through neutralization ), would like to bring my mom in Germany. She is 54y old , retired , widow and leaving alone in Bangladesh. As per Bangladesh social system parents get depended to the children in their old age. I have checked and did not find any visa to apply foe her . she has been in Germany 4 times with her tourist visa , which allows her only 3 months to stay with me. But as she is getting old and considering some other circumstance is becoming difficult for her to leave alone in Bangladesh or even traveling to Germany oft .

i have a house and proper job to take her responsibility in Germany. I would really appreciate if i could get a lead for how to bring her in Germany with long term visa.

Thank you in advance.
Sincerely ,
Bushra
-@Bushrakhanam1988

Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult to get a residence visa for parents who are third country nationals. The bar is set very high, they´d basically would have to be destitute and unabale to take care of themselves physically.

Also, 54 is still considered middle aged in Europe, it´s about ten years below retirement age, so she might get suspected to be planning to work under the table in Germany.

Don´t forget that you would also not be able to put her on your health insurance policy as a family memeber, only spouses and dependent children count for that. She´d have to either be "voluntarily" insured (if she can get a provider to insure her, as Germany and Bangladesh don´t have a health care treaty, as far as I know) or private insurance which is also difficult to get and gets more expensive the older the person gets.

Having applied for and getting rejected for a visa that leads to a long term stay and possibly settlement can also make it a lot more difficult to get visitor visas in teh future.

How established are you in Germany? Could you move?

It would be a lot easier for you to relocate to an EU country that you don´t hold citizenship of, get a job there and as soon as you have a couple of payslips, rental agreement, are in the health system, etc. your mother can apply as a direct family member under EU freedom of movement, which is a lot more lenient than domestic immigration rules.

Otherwise you might want to think about moving back to Bangladesh during your mother´s old age. I don´t know what your job is but maybe you could work remotely for your existing German employer?
-@ALKB
They both could move to Austria, but like Germany, the mother would have to have her own insurance. Private or into the state system. Both can be expensive. Given her age, she would have to have an extensive medical examination to prove that she is unable to work. Like Beppi says, she would also need German skills and have at least A1 level.
-@SimCityAT


Not under Freedom of movement rules.


If OP moves to Austria (or an EU country with a socialized health system), direct family members (spouse, children under 21, parents) can move under EU rules, not Austrian rules. No language skills can be asked for when it comes to family members of EU nationals exercising treaty rights. Medical exams also don´t coem into it, at least not for visa purposes.

SimCityAT

Hello everyone ,
i a German national ( through neutralization ), would like to bring my mom in Germany. She is 54y old , retired , widow and leaving alone in Bangladesh. As per Bangladesh social system parents get depended to the children in their old age. I have checked and did not find any visa to apply foe her . she has been in Germany 4 times with her tourist visa , which allows her only 3 months to stay with me. But as she is getting old and considering some other circumstance is becoming difficult for her to leave alone in Bangladesh or even traveling to Germany oft .

i have a house and proper job to take her responsibility in Germany. I would really appreciate if i could get a lead for how to bring her in Germany with long term visa.

Thank you in advance.
Sincerely ,
Bushra
-@Bushrakhanam1988

Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult to get a residence visa for parents who are third country nationals. The bar is set very high, they´d basically would have to be destitute and unabale to take care of themselves physically.

Also, 54 is still considered middle aged in Europe, it´s about ten years below retirement age, so she might get suspected to be planning to work under the table in Germany.

Don´t forget that you would also not be able to put her on your health insurance policy as a family memeber, only spouses and dependent children count for that. She´d have to either be "voluntarily" insured (if she can get a provider to insure her, as Germany and Bangladesh don´t have a health care treaty, as far as I know) or private insurance which is also difficult to get and gets more expensive the older the person gets.

Having applied for and getting rejected for a visa that leads to a long term stay and possibly settlement can also make it a lot more difficult to get visitor visas in teh future.

How established are you in Germany? Could you move?

It would be a lot easier for you to relocate to an EU country that you don´t hold citizenship of, get a job there and as soon as you have a couple of payslips, rental agreement, are in the health system, etc. your mother can apply as a direct family member under EU freedom of movement, which is a lot more lenient than domestic immigration rules.

Otherwise you might want to think about moving back to Bangladesh during your mother´s old age. I don´t know what your job is but maybe you could work remotely for your existing German employer?
-@ALKB
They both could move to Austria, but like Germany, the mother would have to have her own insurance. Private or into the state system. Both can be expensive. Given her age, she would have to have an extensive medical examination to prove that she is unable to work. Like Beppi says, she would also need German skills and have at least A1 level.
-@SimCityAT

Not under Freedom of movement rules.

If OP moves to Austria (or an EU country with a socialized health system), direct family members (spouse, children under 21, parents) can move under EU rules, not Austrian rules. No language skills can be asked for when it comes to family members of EU nationals exercising treaty rights. Medical exams also don´t coem into it, at least not for visa purposes.
-@ALKB

They do if they are a dependant

ALKB

Hello everyone ,
i a German national ( through neutralization ), would like to bring my mom in Germany. She is 54y old , retired , widow and leaving alone in Bangladesh. As per Bangladesh social system parents get depended to the children in their old age. I have checked and did not find any visa to apply foe her . she has been in Germany 4 times with her tourist visa , which allows her only 3 months to stay with me. But as she is getting old and considering some other circumstance is becoming difficult for her to leave alone in Bangladesh or even traveling to Germany oft .

i have a house and proper job to take her responsibility in Germany. I would really appreciate if i could get a lead for how to bring her in Germany with long term visa.

Thank you in advance.
Sincerely ,
Bushra
-@Bushrakhanam1988

Unfortunately, it is extremely difficult to get a residence visa for parents who are third country nationals. The bar is set very high, they´d basically would have to be destitute and unabale to take care of themselves physically.

Also, 54 is still considered middle aged in Europe, it´s about ten years below retirement age, so she might get suspected to be planning to work under the table in Germany.

Don´t forget that you would also not be able to put her on your health insurance policy as a family memeber, only spouses and dependent children count for that. She´d have to either be "voluntarily" insured (if she can get a provider to insure her, as Germany and Bangladesh don´t have a health care treaty, as far as I know) or private insurance which is also difficult to get and gets more expensive the older the person gets.

Having applied for and getting rejected for a visa that leads to a long term stay and possibly settlement can also make it a lot more difficult to get visitor visas in teh future.

How established are you in Germany? Could you move?

It would be a lot easier for you to relocate to an EU country that you don´t hold citizenship of, get a job there and as soon as you have a couple of payslips, rental agreement, are in the health system, etc. your mother can apply as a direct family member under EU freedom of movement, which is a lot more lenient than domestic immigration rules.

Otherwise you might want to think about moving back to Bangladesh during your mother´s old age. I don´t know what your job is but maybe you could work remotely for your existing German employer?
-@ALKB
They both could move to Austria, but like Germany, the mother would have to have her own insurance. Private or into the state system. Both can be expensive. Given her age, she would have to have an extensive medical examination to prove that she is unable to work. Like Beppi says, she would also need German skills and have at least A1 level.
-@SimCityAT

Not under Freedom of movement rules.

If OP moves to Austria (or an EU country with a socialized health system), direct family members (spouse, children under 21, parents) can move under EU rules, not Austrian rules. No language skills can be asked for when it comes to family members of EU nationals exercising treaty rights. Medical exams also don´t coem into it, at least not for visa purposes.
-@ALKB
They do if they are a dependant
-@SimCityAT

Not under EU rules, which OP would fall under if living and working in an EU country they do not hold citizenship of.


https://www.bmi.gv.at/312/40/start.aspx



https://www.oesterreich.gv.at/themen/le … Unterlagen

TominStuttgart

The word is naturalization, not neutralization. Looks similar, very big difference.


The thing is that a German family reunion visa is for a spouse or minor children. Not parents of adults. There can be exceptions made for humanitarian reasons but this means exceptional situations; like the parent being in a war zone or place where life is very dangerous. I think it is comparable to the standard for asylum; not just poverty but a risk of death due to war or civil strife or cataostrophic conditions like severe famine in a country. On a personal level of course being old and alone is difficult but by that standard millions would be eligible.


The thing is that the poster can simply send money to the parent to support them. From the point of the government, this is the easiest solution. There would have to be specific reasons for them to need to be brought to Germany. And 54 is not old; not even a senior. Maybe different if the parent were over 80 and had medical problems that couldn't be treated locally, and the country were dysfunctional. One could inquire at the local Auslanderamt but I would not have high expectations of success.

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