If you have permanent residency here in Brazil

I would think just resid card if traveling from Brasil to Brasil.

but u should check first.

plus always renew or get a new your passport, ya never know when u will need to travel intl or back home.

Just your residence card is fine. However you would want to renew your passport regardless through your consulate of country, in case you lose your residence card, that way you have a fallback for identification!

Thanks for all the responses

Not only your RNE card will do, if you are past a certain age bracket ( Mc  Geezer Status ), you are waived from renewal even after the stamped expiration date runs out. 

Still, not everyone at the Government Level , got the memo, so you might want to take a line at the Policia Federal to get yours updated.

AS for passports, useful if you are traveling abroad.  So keep yours up to date.

@sprealestatebroker

What us the Geezer age..does 71 qualify?

My understanding is that if your RNE expiry is after your 60th birthday, then it is considered valid indefinitely. However, as I saw in the thread and witnessed first-hand with a friend in that situation, his RNE was not accepted as ID for Claro. Not everyone has read the memo!

I have just renewed my RNE, and because I will be over 60 at the normal expiry date, the new blue CRMN card says "indefinite" instead of the expiry date.

For NewBrazil, Based on your "handle," I assume you are new to Brazil. So, in order to keep your original card safe, I suggest making a copy and having it laminated. In my experience, I have found that most organizations or shops will accept a copy. However, perhaps the bank or the government will not accept a laminated copy of your ID card.

@John Fenton

hmmm. So my new card that i just applied for at the end of march which is due to arrive any day now will be blue and will not expire since i was 60 when applying for a renewal, even though the Federal Police agent that prcessed mine told me all cards expire even for those over 60 if they applied after they were already 60?

@ExpatUSATravels - That will be interesting to see! I did read somewhere that the renewal of retirement visas or permits were treated slightly different.

05/01/23 My understanding is that if your RNE expiry is after your 60th birthday, then it is considered valid indefinitely. However, as I saw in the thread and witnessed first-hand with a friend in that situation, his RNE was not accepted as ID for Claro. Not everyone has read the memo!
I have just renewed my RNE, and because I will be over 60 at the normal expiry date, the new blue CRMN card says "indefinite" instead of the expiry date.

-@John Fenton

You were smart to replace your old card.

CIEs ("RNE"s) issued prior to the introduction of the CRNM have to be replaced by current CRNMs at their expiration date or nine years after issue, whichever comes first, under the "Parágrafo Único" of Art. 2 of this Portaria:

https://www.in.gov.br/materia/-/asset_p … 8-39937733

This rule was issued in such a bizarre way that a lot of people are probably going to miss it.

05/01/23  @John Fenton
hmmm. So my new card that i just applied for at the end of march which is due to arrive any day now will be blue and will not expire since i was 60 when applying for a renewal, even though the Federal Police agent that prcessed mine told me all cards expire even for those over 60 if they applied after they were already 60?
-@ExpatUSATravels

You are probably correct under Article 74 of the implementing legislation:

http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/_a … /d9199.htm

I read the Parágrafo Único as saying that a person does not have to renew their CRNM after they reach 60.  However, the wording is ambiguous, and it can be read as saying that people over 60 have to renew their CRNMs  with "Validade Indeterminada" every nine years. 

Today, finally, I  had my appointment with the local Federal Police for the extension/renewal of my CRNM (temporary resident,  retirement).  I pick up the actual card in 30 days.  It will be good for 2 years.  I asked if, when I renew in 2 years, I  would be able to have prazo indeterminado  and the reply was, "depends what the DOU indicates."  I'm wondering if on the online formulário, there's a place to indicate that one would like to apply for such, or if the 2-year period is determined by law for this visa type. Anyone know?

05/02/23  Today, finally, I had my appointment with the local Federal Police for the extension/renewal of my CRNM (temporary resident, retirement). I pick up the actual card in 30 days. It will be good for 2 years. I asked if, when I renew in 2 years, I would be able to have prazo indeterminado and the reply was, "depends what the DOU indicates." I'm wondering if on the online formulário, there's a place to indicate that one would like to apply for such, or if the 2-year period is determined by law for this visa type. Anyone know?
-@Viajanete

Congratulations, Viajanete!

The two year period was established by the original directive, Resolução Normativa No. 40 de 2 de Outubro de 2019, and does not seem to have been revised since:

https://www.in.gov.br/web/dou/-/resoluc … -229901650