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Last activity 18 June 2023 by abthree

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poseidon72

Good evening,


I am wondering if someone can repost the latest requirements for a Canadian (same as American) to obtain the 90 day extension. I had some links that worked in the past that don't anymore. Links provided would be very helpful. Does it only work on a  pre booking system now? Can you no longer just walk into the police station? My current location is Jundiai, SP and I have heard I may need to travel to Rio to get my extension.



Thank you

abthree

06/12/23 @poseidon72.  You should not have to go to Rio, you can extend in São Paulo.  Here's the link for the process:


https://www.gov.br/pt-br/servicos/prorr … -no-brasil


The first step is to obtain and print  a GRU, a  payment document, so you can pay for the extension. 


The next step is to schedule an appointment at the nearest Federal Police office, for which a selection of offices should appear as you're filling out the online "formulário de solicitação"  Some offices, including the main one in the Lapa neighborhood of the city of São Paulo, accept walk-ins.


You'll need to have your passport with you to show to the officer.  You should have the details of your lodging and your return trip with you, in case they're requested. 

antonioggriffin

@abthree Thank you!!!!!

Your the best. I leave for Brazil in a week. I was going to ask the same question ( I was also looking at old forums).

poseidon72

@abthree thanks so much! A few questions:


1) when I tried to book an appointment online in Sao Paulo all the locations indicated that they did not accept appointments at that location. Does this seem strange to you or do you know of a location that does accept online booking in SP?


2) if I can't get an appointment in Sao Paulo online can I travel to Rio to do it? I read so where that you can only go to locations close to where you are staying for the extension.



Thank you

abthree

06/14/23 @poseidon72.  As I said above, the Lapa office in SP accepts walk-ins.  If you can't schedule an appointment, my guess is that they're only accepting walk-ins.  Try to get there early.

poseidon72

@abthree thanks again, and last question I promise. Hypothetically if I wanted could I leave Brazil for a day or two and return to stay for an additional 90 days could I? Ort do I have to wait 90n days before re-entering?



Thanks

abthree

06/14/23  @abthree thanks again, and last question I promise. Hypothetically if I wanted could I leave Brazil for a day or two and return to stay for an additional 90 days could I? Ort do I have to wait 90n days before re-entering?  Thanks

-@poseidon72


No problem with any questions, that what we're here for. 😃  You have 180 days in every rolling 365 days to use whenever and however you want.  If you leave Brazil during that time, the clock stops on your visa, and starts again when you come back.  Every time you re-enter Brazil the Immigration System will look back at the preceding 365 days and, as long as you've spent less than 180 days in Brazil, you're good to go.  Just remember that the day you arrive and the day you depart each count against your record as one full day each.

poseidon72

@abthree ahh I see. I had read someone claiming that there needed to be 90 days in between the exit and re-enter for people to avoid simply crossing the border to avoid the extension process. However this person was from the EU. Either it's different for him or he was misinformed.

abthree

06/14/23  @abthree ahh I see. I had read someone claiming that there needed to be 90 days in between the exit and re-enter for people to avoid simply crossing the border to avoid the extension process. However this person was from the EU. Either it's different for him or he was misinformed.
-@poseidon72

Different rules.  Citizens of Canada and the other major English-speaking countries, Japan, Russia, and EU members who opted for the same plan get one 90-day visa plus one 90-day extension, for up to 180 days in every rolling 365.  The days can be distributed over as many trips and the traveler wants.


The general EU agreement unless a member has opted for a different arrangement is one 90-day visa with NO extensions, for up to 90 days in every 180 days.  Notice that this comes to the same 180 days a year, just distributed differently.


The permitted times for citizens of all nations appear in the VIVIS column of this matrix, the QGVR:


https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/assuntos/p … MAR231.pdf

poseidon72

@abthree great, so as a Canadian if I have any issues presenting the required documentation for an extension on time I can do a border run for a day and re enter to use my remaining 90 days of the 180 day allowance? I know it is an unusual question but I would like to know if it would work in theory.

abthree

06/15/23 @abthree great, so as a Canadian if I have any issues presenting the required documentation for an extension on time I can do a border run for a day and re enter to use my remaining 90 days of the 180 day allowance? I know it is an unusual question but I would like to know if it would work in theory.
-@poseidon72


I imagine that it would, but I've never heard of anyone who had time left being hassled by the PF over an extension.  It's pretty automatic.


If you DO make a border run, make sure that you're stamped in and out of Brazil:  if there's no record of your exit and return, then it's all for nothing.

poseidon72

@abthree thanks, it's just I'm having trouble getting the bar code paperwork required to pay the bank. It seems to be be geared for those making online appointments. Not for walk in non scheduled appointments so I'm getting a little confused.

abthree

06/15/23 @abthree thanks, it's just I'm having trouble getting the bar code paperwork required to pay the bank. It seems to be be geared for those making online appointments. Not for walk in non scheduled appointments so I'm getting a little confused.
-@poseidon72


If you print off the GRU, you can pay it at a teller window at any bank and show it and the bank reciept to the PF when you walk in.  If you don't have access to a printer, save it to a jump drive as a PDF and print it at any graphics, copy, or internet shop.


If you're having trouble with the link, try using Firefox.   Some Brazilian sites respond better to Firefox than to Chrome and its clones.

antonioggriffin

Every time you re-enter Brazil the Immigration System will look back at the preceding 365 days and, as long as you've spent less than 180 days in Brazil, you're good to go. Just remember that the day you arrive and the day you depart each count against your record as one full day each. -@abthree


Ohhh!!! I thought even if you left the country the days counted against you..

I was about to extend my visa.


So for the visa change coming in October… Do you think with my visit visa I could extend without paying after October?

abthree

06/15/23  So for the visa change coming in October… Do you think with my visit visa I could extend without paying after October?
-@antonioggriffin


As long as you're still in Brazil on October 1 and within your 180 days, you should be in the clear.  If you leave and only return after October 1, you'll need to get a visa from a Brazilian Consulate. 


(Unless you already have a valid one in your passport:  I'm sure that some people have multiple-visit tourist visas in their passports from the time before the visa waivers.  Those who do should check their visas for the expiration date.)

Peter Itamaraca

@abthree Quite right Abthree! The old tourist visas were granted with a validity of 10 years, so many people who visited previously should still be OK after this proposed October start date.

Kurterino

06/14/23 @abthree ahh I see. I had read someone claiming that there needed to be 90 days in between the exit and re-enter for people to avoid simply crossing the border to avoid the extension process. However this person was from the EU. Either it's different for him or he was misinformed.
-@poseidon72
Different rules. Citizens of Canada and the other major English-speaking countries, Japan, Russia, and EU members who opted for the same plan get one 90-day visa plus one 90-day extension, for up to 180 days in every rolling 365. The days can be distributed over as many trips and the traveler wants.

The general EU agreement unless a member has opted for a different arrangement is one 90-day visa with NO extensions, for up to 90 days in every 180 days. Notice that this comes to the same 180 days a year, just distributed differently.

The permitted times for citizens of all nations appear in the VIVIS column of this matrix, the QGVR:

https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/assuntos/p … MAR231.pdf
-@abthree

Thank you for posting this link, very useful indeed. There’s something I don’t understand: my country (Switzerland) is category 4* (with the little star), which means ‘Maximum stay of 90 days for every 180 days’. Does this mean you can’t get an extension anymore? Because I know for a fact that until the pandemic, Swiss citizens were able to obtain 90 days of extension, a friend of mine has been staying here 6 months at a time for over 20 years.

abthree

06/18/23 @Kurterino.  I was a little surprised to see a star appear for Switzerland, because I thought that I remembered it without.  Could be a typo.  I have some older versions of the QGVR on my computer somewhere; I'll take a look at them.  Also at the Portuguese Language version, which is the authoritative one.

abthree

06/18/23 @Kurterino.  I've looked back as far as 2018, and Switzerland has had the asterisk at least since then.  So unless your friend has a second passport from a 180/365 day country, or a Swiss Diplomatic or Official passport (different rules), I can't explain the extensions.  Portuguese and English match.

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