Home Schooling

By researched some years ago because I thought of homeschooling to improve e g math knowledge, but I thought only partly as 1 - 2 days per week of the social reason for children. Even worse otherwice if no sibbling.

I asked a TESDA tester, who is retired now. She said homeschoolers need permit from a headmaster.

She believed homeshool teacher HAVE TO be an approved teacher to get permit.

To get into next level, the student need to pass tests. Thats no big problem to fail EXCEPT if want to join e g university later.

Some tests are easy, but some questions for small kids are so fuzzy so we grown ups have problem to understand them. Several Filipino parent friends ask me now and then for assistance to try to figuere out what homework questions mean...

I believe law say HAVE TO send child to school if not having such permit. But I have no idea if justice system bother if not. Its common police dont bother when its Filipinos, but when its foreigners breaking any law.

A clever Filipina teacher, married to a foreigner, found too the public schools being to bad for her kids, so she started a homeschool in a small town for her two kids and a few of their friends. Even the baranggay found it so good so they recomended it to others so it did grow to 7 (?) teachers and around 70 students

@aklokow

We have a boy turning 3 in a couple weeks and he goes to a nearby private school for 1 1/2 hours a day. The school is clean and air conditioned. The TV was broken so I bought a new one for the class and that got me in Facebook . The little guy has an amazing vocabulary but it is all English which isn't a problem for this school since class is taught in English. The only problem is the religious indoctrination that occurs on Fridays so we keep him home on those days.

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Thanks Coach and Moondog for the reply, just to bring some perspective, I have done the TESOL certification to teach F2F and online which includes certification for TEYL, TEOL, TEAL meaning I am qualified for teaching and also approved by DepEd.

I still think the lack of social interaction for a single child can be a problem later in life. I have done some research online and 42% of first world households has only one child and more and more are going the homeschool route. If I look at the pros and cons so many have such different views making it not easy to make a choice. However, I think to get international certification given the way the local education is deteriorating I think it becomes a no brainer to go homeschooling.

    By researched some years ago because I thought of homeschooling to improve e g math knowledge, but I thought only partly as 1 - 2 days per week of the social reason for children. Even worse otherwice if no sibbling.I asked a TESDA tester, who is retired now. She said homeschoolers need permit from a headmaster. She believed homeshool teacher HAVE TO be an approved teacher I believe law say HAVE TO send child to school if not having such permit. But I have no idea if justice system bother if not. Its common police dont bother when its Filipinos, but when its foreigners breaking any law.    -@coach53

What about the case of USA SRRV resident with children? Does that law apply to them? The USA SRRV could simply link up with the homeschool program in some city (like Miami FL) by becoming (declaring) residence there. So now the child would be resident here but passing the USA school curriculum. I would think that must be OK.

II will note that USA homeschool teachers need no special credentials other than being parents. I think this is because the school districts really follow up with the kids and design the lesson plans so they can easily be given to the kids without special training for the parent. Home eschooling is very successful in the USA and the kids perform the same or better than those in the public system. No reason the same teaching and materials cannot be covered from a Philippines address for SRRV and 13A who can claim partial residence intbe USA (IE, any American can do that).

We home schooled our daughter for 3 years while traveling around Australia, Her social interaction was easy as we met many other families doing the same thing as was distance education and now at 34 is a very well balanced and smart woman.

Not sure your environment/community there but look into teaching 2/3/4 children if you have the right Qualifications. Alternately arrange a play group/meetup within your local Barangay for social interaction for your child and yourself. Will be rewarding.

Good luck.

Cheers, Steve.

Hi Steve thanks for the reply, good insight and what you say makes a lot of sense. Teaching more children is ok for me, the challenge will be the interaction on a play date as she is not yet capable of Tagalog and the kids here are very shy to talk English or to at least try, maybe a good challenge for me

Kids are very quick learners/resilient and interact much easier than adults, also a learning curve for your daughter if you only speak English in your home, 2/3 times a week go meet the locals, crock pot day, bring a cake/snacks. A community affair and I'm sure once you sell the idea the locals will love you.

Cheers, Steve.

Great advice thanks Steve, will certainly do that.

      What about the case of USA SRRV resident with children? Does that law apply to them? The USA SRRV could simply link up with the homeschool program in some city (like Miami FL) by becoming (declaring) residence there. So now the child would be resident here but passing the USA school curriculum. I would think that must be OK.II will note that USA homeschool teachers need no special credentials other than being parents. I think this is because the school districts really follow up with the kids and design the lesson plans so they can easily be given to the kids without special training for the parent. Home eschooling is very successful in the USA and the kids perform the same or better than those in the public system. No reason the same teaching and materials cannot be covered from a Philippines address for SRRV and 13A who can claim partial residence intbe USA (IE, any American can do that).    -@danfinn

Thats can be a good idea IF not get punnished by Philippines for not sending child to school nor having permit from a headmaster in Philippine school. IF not aiming at enter college/university in Phils.

Perhaps a lopehole: Get permit by Philippine headmaster and then not bother if/when not pass to next level in Phils

    Hi Steve thanks for the reply, good insight and what you say makes a lot of sense. Teaching more children is ok for me, the challenge will be the interaction on a play date as she is not yet capable of Tagalog and the kids here are very shy to talk English or to at least try, maybe a good challenge for me -@aklokow

You would need to have someone speaking Tagalog too, for the other kids specialy of they get sad, they need to be understood.

Your kid will learn Tagalog from that Tagalog speaking grownup and the other kids.

But YOU can speak English to the other kids too, they learn fast.

If have a clear boundry when which language is spoken in which situations, both your and the other kids will be bilingual fast.

(E g toddlers to Chilenian refugees became that fast by Swedish in kindergarten and playground, while parents spoke Spanish at home internal, when not speaking with Swedes. But when I came and spoke Spanish the kids looked confused 

I just started our 5 year old this year in public School

I myself went years to a private school and would never put any child of mine in private school. Social Skills is the Reason, friendships and learning to get a long and deal with teasing, joking, even bullying is something that needs to be learned and coped with, in a small private school the social skills will be limited.

Also i know parents that had to do home schooling because they didnt teach there child Tagalog and the other children teased the child to no end.

If you are thinking private or public the child needs to understand and speak Tagalog or the other children will harass and tease them. If they dont learn tagalog your limited to only home schooling. My advice is teach them Tagalog and go public for the first early years 1-3 etc,  then if you want to try private in the middle grades 4-8 etc, you have that option...

Very sound advice thanks a lot and appreciate everybodies comments and advice

    I just started our 5 year old this year in public School
I myself went years to a private school and would never put any child of mine in private school. Social Skills is the Reason, friendships and learning to get a long and deal with teasing, joking, even bullying is something that needs to be learned and coped with, in a small private school the social skills will be limited.
Also i know parents that had to do home schooling because they didnt teach there child Tagalog and the other children teased the child to no end.
If you are thinking private or public the child needs to understand and speak Tagalog or the other children will harass and tease them. If they dont learn tagalog your limited to only home schooling. My advice is teach them Tagalog and go public for the first early years 1-3 etc,  then if you want to try private in the middle grades 4-8 etc, you have that option...

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I wouldnt put child in most private schools neither because of a higher percentage of snobs 

and if it isnt close, kids get problem to meet after school.

Definitly not a boarding school before the child is (close to) grown up. To early such have made scars for life at many.

Concering bullying some "western" PRIVATE boarding schools are among the WORST according to stories told by wictims...

What Private vs. Home Schooling.

When I married in the states the first thing we did is move the kids into private schools and get them out the Philippine public school system.

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How did it work out?

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Son #1 Graduated college and scored in the top 1% in the nursing exam. He was recruited by St. Lukes, and after several years he moved to London and is a successful nurse.

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Son #2 is also a college graduate and is a manager of a Japanese restaurant.

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Son #3 is a college dropout and employed in IT.

The Philippine public school system overall are substandard.

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Most important thing about home schooling, would you have the dedication, ability, training and time?

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Hi Bob you make a very important point about having the dedication, ability, training and time. Well in my case I have the time as I am n ot working except the upkeep of the outside part of our subdivision. The challenge for me is the patience, I am not very good at that and that is my weakness, which is important in teaching I am aware.

As far as the ability I am confident that I can also include the training, working for many years in a multi-cultural company is many parts of the world especially Asia gave some experience and on top is the teaching certification courses I completed this year.

The fact remains about the interaction with other kids and not growing up lonely, not knowing how to share, how to defend in an argument, learn about bullying etc.

From reading on the internet not having exposure to those things is ok, but I am not convinced. For us the main pushing factor for homeschooling is the schooling system and facilities in the Philippines which as you rightly said is substandard. As for the language we can sort that out I believe my wife can do the Tagalog part and I the English part.

I think Nour sons are doing well even for a drop out now employed in IT, probably the highest earner as well

But in the end, who knows what the new world of AI will bring as it is evolving so fast, I think that in the future there will be limited human interaction as most will be done by machines and they can work 24/7 and have no time off. Si homeschooling in a couple of years might be a very good idea and possibly the only way.

@Enzyte Bob

That was a good show. My three sons.

Aside I have spell check on all the time and though I'm only slightly stupid, mistyakes lol are made and corrected by me, the exception is the program here that we run on and other sites is US based spelling and not the Queens language, King now. eg. Flavour or flavor? Colour or color. I suppose next flour will become flor.

As an uneducated soul dealing with hundreds of people every day in my logistical/management roll I always endeavoured (or should that be endeavored) to spell correctly so things were never misinterpreted and I didn't look like a fool and those above me were even more precious with their spelling and wording.

Sorry and only my opinion Coach53 but as a manager even the CEO you need to convey/transmit correctly, the underlings are also busy and have no time to pick up the bosses misspelling, As a boss you need to be concise as well to the point and not blaming others for miscommunication.

Thank the Gods for spellcheck, whether a typo or ignorance.

Cheers, Steve.   

Gents I did mean to get these type of reactions / comments on my topic between members, if that is the case then I apologies, not the intention at all.

I have read somewhere that English spelling is also changing in the sense to adopt the way we pronounce instead of what the traditional spelling of the word was, meaning we are moving to a more phonetic spelling rather than pure language as we all have grown up with during our school, Uni and working careers.

apologies, suppose to be "I did not mean", spelling right

aklokow said. . . .    Hi Bob you make a very important point about having the dedication, ability, training and time. Well in my case I have the time as I am n ot working except the upkeep of the outside part of our subdivision. The challenge for me is the patience, I am not very good at that and that is my weakness, which is important in teaching I am aware.
As far as the ability I am confident that I can also include the training, working for many years in a multi-cultural company is many parts of the world especially Asia gave some experience and on top is the teaching certification courses I completed this year.
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Actually I wasn't referring to you, from reading many of your posts, I think you would be successful at home schooling.

I was thinking about myself and I would fail on dedication, ability, training and time.

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When Covid hit hundreds of thousands worked at home. I was wondering what percentage these people had the discipline to give their employers 100% of their unsupervised time with all the distractions.

@aklokow God I hope you are wrong. It took modern English centuries to have what we have today and for each spelling you don't like there are historical reasons and traditions. To go all out and change that...you would have to learn new simplified (mostly ignorant) spelling rules. Everybody goes back to first grade. Ugh.

@aklokow

I got booted from school the day I turned 15, Yes I was a little sh1t and finished y9 at night school, by 19 I was a licensed plumber and gasfitter and dearly tried to finish y10 through correspondence for 2 years, it was boring as bat sh1t the same as school was. Some need school and a structured existence while others don't, I was one of the don'ts and never looked back. My math done in my head was always commented on by peers and underlings "how did you work that out?" Easy yet I failed math in school, scraped through at night school.

I think/know that all are different, some need a semblance of structure, some don't and an aware parent/adult will see what their child is capable of/needs and has to consider choices both theirs as well as your own.

Sorry for yet again another ramble.

Cheers, Steve.

    Gents I did mean to get these type of reactions / comments on my topic between members, if that is the case then I apologies, not the intention at all.
I have read somewhere that English spelling is also changing in the sense to adopt the way we pronounce instead of what the traditional spelling of the word was, meaning we are moving to a more phonetic spelling rather than pure language as we all have grown up with during our school, Uni and working careers.
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It isnt depending of your topic, Enzyte Bob has written crap posts against me in a lot topics during years and he still dont understand whats IMPORTANT.  Or if he understand, he just write such because he is a crap person.

Lotus Eater is even worse by he has made up a lot of LIES about me, supported by some other idiots/crap people...

@coach53 Math done in your head or is arithmetic being done in your head? Hey, if you can look at polynomial equations in your head and solve for the variables X,y and z etc., then I will liken you to an African American 13 year old I encountered as a substitute teacher, a job I took with a BSEE degree. Now, my wife is very good at doing arithmetic in her head but not algebraic "math"...I suspect in your case you can add/subtract/multiply/divide large numbers without writing anything down but that is just arithmetic which may be impressive, but lacks the true nature of problem solving that math provided us as a tool.

Hi everyone, I would like to thank you all for your input and comments, it's been really valuable in clarifying things. Also, very good advice from all with great ideas and approaches to a complicated decision and to make the right choices given this fast-evolving world. The important part is you have only one go at it and hope it is the right way, maybe you can change a bit of the direction to adapt but the foundation already built, that's why the starting is so important in my view.

But again, thanks a lot appreciated and suppose we can close this topic.

    Hi everyone, I would like to thank you all for your input and comments, it's been really valuable in clarifying things. Also, very good advice from all with great ideas and approaches to a complicated decision and to make the right choices given this fast-evolving world. The important part is you have only one go at it and hope it is the right way, maybe you can change a bit of the direction to adapt but the foundation already built, that's why the starting is so important in my view.
But again, thanks a lot appreciated and suppose we can close this topic.
   

    -@aklokow

Don't worry, if the admin feels that the subject is worn out he/she will close it. Oftentimes people have contributions and they are not trying to only communicate with you (OP) but the other people in the forum. This means that anybody here can open a topic but only an admin can close it. It is not necessary for the OP to try controlling his posts and followup but you can drop out if you feel as though you have enough information. Just FYI.

Thanks Dannfinn, understand, and yes if people continues, I will enjoy reading the comments.

Just a comment after talking to a teacher today, basically they will have all children pass whatever grade irrespective of performance because if a school have some failures, they have to do a full reports and analysis, secondly if might reflect negatively on the teachers and they could lose some of the budget allocation.

Basically, we have some school leavers who should not be leaving as they have failed, but as mentioned all will pass no matter the result or attendance.

That is a real shame, and just shows how the Philippines education system has gone down on the world rankings, this even further enforces my strategy for home schooling, at least I can try and give a decent education.

I was surprised to see how many homeschool programs in the Philippines are deped approved. Here is an interesting one that gives both US and Philippines curricula but there are several others. It is noted that homeschool here is mainly for the rich. I would assume that because the Phils curriculum is in, there is no problem integrating the US curriculum which I assume is approved in the USA:

Homeschool Of Asia Pacific (HAP)

Homeschool of Asia Pacific Philippines is a reliable provider of homeschooling programs in the Philippines since 2009. It offers two programs: US Homeschool program and Philippine DepEd-accredited program, for students from Kindergarten to Grade 12.

Some of its known alumni include singers Darren Espanto and Kyle Echarri, and actor Bailey May.

Levels offered

Preschool to High School

Curriculum

US curriculum

Philippine programs

US + PH modules

Enrollment Schedule

All-year round for US program

May to June for Philippines program

Tuition varies from P60,000 to P75,000 (installment payments available)

Contact Details

(0915) 098 4443

Facebook: www.facebook.com/homeschoolofasiapacific/

Website:

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We (moderators) do not always intervene as at times after a couple of off-topic posts, the thread gets back on track automatically, but not this time.

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