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Last activity 25 November 2024 by michelle014

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Vfelcetto

I hope my message finds all of you well.

I am an American who married an Egyptian here in Egypt in 2022. I applied for a spousal visa for him to join me in th United States however I am having some concerns.


We met on social media. I approached him as I was very attracted to him. We spoke for many months before I decided to go to Egypt.  When I went to Egypt we fell in love, got engaged, and got married. He is divorced from an Egyptian girl and his mother has custody of their two kids. I come back and forth to Egypt every few months to be with him until his visa arrives.


when I met him he was very open minded and accepted me for all I was.  He was love bombing me in a sense.  After we got married things changed. He started to belittle me.  He would start to complain about how my life was.  He would make me dress more modestly and also tell me which friends he didn’t feel comfortable with that I had.


when I go to Egypt I bring money with me that we use for ourselves and the kids… grocery shopping and all. He doesn’t work. He is 36 and I am 45.  Yes I know the age GAP but I look 20 lol…. Anyhow, he doesn’t work and his parents help with money and pay for the kids.  So yes he lives off what I bring with me money wise while I’m here.


the main problem is the way he treats me as he is quick to anger and so bossy. I have looked at and threatened divorce a few times bc I am just exhausted from all this. I do love him and he tells me how he loves me every day but the actions seem otherwise. 

I would like to know what is the cost of divorce in Egypt. We got married at the Marriage court.  I don’t know anything about divorce here. Also to mention this will be his third divorce if I leave.  I have researched cost but there is none. 


I do love him but I can’t take the treatment.  I have done so much for him and his kids monetarily not to mention paid for his immigration visa and my trips here. 

has anyone had a similar situation and also how would I know if green card is on his agenda? 


thank you to anyone who helps me!

Mshmasriyah

The cost will vary by attorney, and honestly a lot of attorneys are not honest and you will end up paying and paying for a divorce that never seems to come. Not to mention the fact that he can fight the divorce and tie up the process further. Because of those factors I think it’s better you file the divorce in USA where you live. You’re guaranteed a more successful outcome that way.


If you’re really serious about ending everything, go ahead and call off the visa process. I am willing to bet he wants a divorce himself once you do so.

Vfelcetto

thank you for your response. i dont want to be the one if a divorce happens to have to pay as i already have paid thousands for him already lol…. yes i am stubborn as well. lol…


i have threatened divorce a few times but he always comes back. i have even walked out and he still reconciles… apologizes but is back to his same nasty self lol…. this is where i wonder if he is with me for the visa…

Vfelcetto

@Mshmasriyah sorry my other question was if he got the divorce here what would it cost to do generaly Speaking

GuestPoster551

Inbox me if he is from Caïro I can help you. ( Free of charge I know of a female lawyer here that doesn't charge excessively


And check your marriage contract. Most likely the Mahr is peanuts and a bag of rice so to say.

Justwoomass

Ive been happily married to an Egyptian for 20+ years and seen your situation many times before.  Lots of red flags from someone outside of the relationship.  it is hard to see them when you are in the relationship.  You are doing the right thing for yourself.  Dont doubt youself.  You deserve better.  I do not know the legal side of things but I know Egyptian paperwork is awful. Cancel the Visa process and let him deal with the divorce.  you do not owe him anything or any money for the divorce.  Do not let him charm his way back into your good graces.  Good Luck!

Vfelcetto

@Justwoomass we have had some brutal fights. In each of these fightd i say i am finished and want to leave but he always comes back. even thid last time here inpackd everything up and made it down half the stairs. he later followed asking me to come and talk.  However the littlest thing i do and he has an attitude. 

Roseroushdy69

I have been  happily married to an Egyptian for 8 years .  I Know nothing of divorce proceedings but my husband has no intention of living in the UK. Even though I spend a lot of time in England.  His wish is for me reside there permanently.  Why would your husband wish to leave his family and children. Sounds a little strange to me that his parents keep him also. Usually the other way around  Take care and do what is best for you .

Vfelcetto

My hisband does not have much of a life in egypt. i think this contributes to his behavior. he does not work. his lids also have mo real life and are nt offered any luxuries. he had intentions to bring the kids to the us with us. so maybe this is why? i really dont know. he has never asked me to live in egypt. i have offered to stay there but he knows the life there would be very different for me.

montcairo

Dear friend, you was unlucky in choosing your husband and you didn't think deeply before your marriage, as marriage is much more complicated than friendship.

You need to stop this marriage by consulting a normal lawyer and this doesn't cost you much money but by getting divorced is a good decision to correct your mistake and be sure that there are too many successful and respectable men in Egypt but unfortunately you took the speedy and wrong marriage decision.

Vfelcetto

@montcairo


please elaborate on why you say the above….

montcairo

My dear friend, I was trying to explain to you that the marriage decision is not easy as you can make a decision when you intend to make friendship with someone even the friendship decision should be taken after good thinking to avoid the waste of your life, time and may be money.

And I meant that you may not have a deep experience to avoid this marriage failure and I suggest that you get divorced and do not make any further quick dangerous decisions such as marriage until you make a very deep study before you take such critical decisions.

And I hope you all the success in correcting this mistake and hope you all the happiness and success taking into account that loving somebody is not enough for successful marriage.

My dear friend do not be sorry for divorce as it is the correct action for you.

American in Cairo

@vfelcetto


Did everything work out? Trust your instincts!!!!


When I read your original post, your husband's behavior screamed narcissist with a capital N!!!


Be very careful and be logical not emotional.

michelle014

@Roseroushdy69

Very good points !

atlanteancare

@Vfelcetto

You have already confirmed you are almost 10 years older but Im willing to bet that you are a standard European beauty. I.e. fair skin, light eyes, light hair. I will also throw in that you may be heavy in weight..perhaps not, but this is the typical woman Egyptian men gravitate toward. Why? Because they want to escape their reality. Egypt is very hard to live in as a natural citizen.  The government controls many, if not all, aspects of their ability to earn a decent living. It's sad. I have had my experiences with these men and they prey upon older, foreign women.  He is angrybeorh you for being freer than he can ever be. He is angry with you for being the provider in the relationship. He is angry because you saved him - and everyone around him knows it. He is also angry with you for loving him more than you should.  I am telling you this because there is no time for softness at your big age. It is time to realize what you are in and take off the rose colored glasses. You deserve to be with someone who treats you good - all the time, someone who does not need you, and someone who can equally enrich your life. I am upset that I need to even tell you this. It goes to show how blind loving someone that doesn't appreciate and nurture you truly is.  You love him more than you love yourself, my dear. Best of luck wjth your outcome.

jennifermazzeo1978

@Vfelcetto

Why does his mother have his 2 children? I'm sure the children's mother didn't want that. The father to my knowledge gets the children and you want to be involved with further distancing her from her children by bringing them the to the United States? I have been married for over 10 years to an Egyptian citizen. He was a wonderful before I married him. I went to Egypt and married him and came home and he became a devil. I found other accounts with other women during the process of getting his Visa paperwork. I had forgiven the first time but the second time I finally said this is not a mistake. I canceled his paperwork to come to the United States. He was just as you described your husband to be abusive belittling you telling you who you can talk to my husband demanded my account passwords who I could talk to. I have checked into the divorce process in order to get divorced you have to appear before a court in Egypt before a judge. I personally can never afford to go back to Egypt to get a divorce and to see a judge. But I would put it in your thoughts that this man is not who he claims to be. I don't want to tell you to get divorced or stay married but I can tell you from experience that this situation is going to cost you a lot of years. I thought for sure my husband would have divorced me by now but I am still married almost 11 years in. Then he expects me to travel to get up power of attorney. When he could simply go to the courts and file for divorce. My situation has been a nightmare so be prepared. If he could take the children from their mother how much more terrible is he going to be to you. Really ask yourself the question. He doesn't work. Why? Every man should work. Especially when he has children. His mother is taking care of his children that is all you need to know. And no you can't divorce him from the United States have you married him in Egypt. Egyptians laws apply. If you get a divorce in America you have to get it approved in Egypt which means you have to travel to speak to a judge at least once or you are not considered divorced in Egypt.

jennifermazzeo1978

@Mshmasriyah

I am married to an Egyptian citizen. If you are married in Egypt you cannot divorce from the United States unless you get it approved through the Egyptian courts. Which means she will at least have to see a judge at least one time. If a woman initiates the divorce she is required to see the judge at least once in Egypt. I have been married over close to 11 years and that is why I have not been able to file from here. If I could trust me I would have been divorced by now.. I was married in Cairo at the courts. And I have asked many people if I could just divorce from here and that was the information that I was told.

jennifermazzeo1978

@Mshmasriyah

I canceled my husband's Visa 8 years ago and he still has not filed for divorce in Egypt. We have been married for over 10 years. Most of the time when they realize they don't have the Visa they will file but for some reason my husband did not. And it is very difficult for me to get a divorce. I was told that I cannot get a divorce in America without it being approved through the Egyptian courts. I was told a woman if she was initiating divorced she must see a judge at least one time in Egypt. Financially I cannot do that.

info6590

It seems there is a high probability that your husband may be with you primarily for the visa. Since you are financially supporting him, it's important to set clear boundaries. Consider telling him that you can no longer assist with obtaining a visa and that he needs to contribute financially by working to support you. Pay attention to his reaction and behavior closely.


Take the time to think carefully about your next steps. If you decide that divorce is the right choice, remember that it may not cost you much financially. However, you should plan to be in Egypt about 4 days to handle the lawsuit  properly.

michelle014

@atlanteancare

If a girl is 10/15 years older than her Egyptian husband but is easily hotter & more attractive than most younger girls .... surely there it a possibility that the man is genuinely extremely attracted to her & just wants to be with her?

atlanteancare

@michelle014

I was replying to the original writer of this thread. I dont know you, or what your point is. Sexual attraction and love have little, if anything, to do with one another.

Truth is, many men that are of lesser means prey upon older, single, European and American women that are older because they want a way out. It is a trophy mentality, if you will. Surely this is as old as time and I am not sharing anything new.

michelle014

@atlanteancare

I know you were replying to another lady. That lady pointed out that she's quite attractive too. So I'm just curious about my question? I've spent a lot of time in Egypt & I've seen these types of relationships you're referring to many times & it's very sad to see .... I have met scammers who were not so clever at their game but I've also met some of the kindest, honest people anyone could hope to meet. In reference to that lady's post my question was is it not possible for a hot foreign girl & a somewhat younger Egyptian man can have a genuine relationship?

michelle014

@atlanteancare

I totally take your point .... 2 people who look similar age (although there might not be much of an age difference) can it be genuine? When I picture older & heavier I think 60 years old with 20 something & I think ... definitely a scam (that's the prejudice opinion). If the foreign girl is actually more attractive then the man, the man has informed his family & he is extremely emotionally mature... is it possible it's genuine? Or is the age gap the deciding factor?

atlanteancare

@michelle014

Well..honestly, I think that a man who doesn't need a woman is surely capable of caring for any woman - older, younger, native, foreign, blonde, or brunette.  A man that is struggling, financially, is more likely to have predatory motives.

I promise you, all I attract are younger men because of the way I look.  I am a professional, and I do well for myself as Im sure you and the other lady do - however, I am not speaking out of thin air.  I honestly do not believe that man without self made financial security can LOVE a woman that does not need him.  It breeds insecurity, contempt, and resentment.  The original writer is experiencing just that.

This is not information that I am solely privy to.  This is truth. This is real life. And as mature adult women it is what we have to accept, albeit begrudgingly.  I mean no harm. I simply refuse to play into fantasies.

atlanteancare

@michelle014

I don't think the age gap is as big of a factor as the income gap.  I included age because it seems to be a "package deal" when they have a more mature, experienced, woman who is doing well financially, and single.  So many Egyptian men are very attractive, but what far outweighs their attraction is their charm!  I am Latina, and I can attest that Latin men do not even have the level of charm that Egyptian men have.  Egyptians are BY FAR more romantic and charming. Particularly at the start of a relationship. They love bomb like no other!

michelle014

@atlanteancare

Absolutely I totally agree with you ... I was very fortunate my last relationship there were no ulterior motives ..... relationship last 3 years with no dishonesty or him wanting or hinting for anything .... Sadly it ended because of the distance.... I often wonder how immasculating it is for a man to be with a woman who doesn't need anything even if the man is a professional but just happens to come from a country where the currency is not as strong as the euro or the dollar... I will move to Egypt someday but it won't be to get married 🤣🤣

michelle014

@atlanteancare

I have travelled all over the world & I know for sure Egyptians are professionally charmers..... thankfully I have been blessed to have met many who are genuine & kind ... I totally understand your point about if the "husband to be" is struggling financially... I know that's a huge indicator of the intentions...

atlanteancare

@michelle014

Me too. For spiritual reasons, not for marriage. Best to you.

michelle014

@atlanteancare

That will be also, I've travelled there 4 times last time was solo to join yoga etc etc ... wishing you all the best 🪬

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