New I.D. card rules

Yes toon, they will probably have to extend the expiry dates I would think.  Thankyou popova

am not so sure they will even mention it

Seat 0A wrote:

georgeingozo wrote:

Yep HNWI is one of the special schemes.

Thanks George, that would mean I have to use Form S.
Given that I am not in possession (yet) of 2 of the required documents, it would seem that going on Form J (economic self-sufficient) is the easier approach.
Any downsides to that?

Thanks

Not only easier, but from a tax point of view much cheaper. Basically you only pay tax on money transferred to Malta. No minimum tax involved. Also withholding tax paid overseas will be deducted in proportion. The HNWI schema is much more severe. That is why only a handful of people have applied I think.

Just a weird update I just received this email 4 days ago even though I have already applied, so apparently they are still taking appointment request's for appointments by email.  (notice " indentify"   I assume it should be "Identify")


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CEA/EXP/1/2004

Sir

Your e-mail hereunder refers.

As regards the new ID/Residence Cards system please consult the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (www.foreign.gov.mt).  Go to Services and then to Residence.  There you would find various application forms and you have to indentify which ones would apply in your cases.

When you do apply, apart from the completed (applicable) forms, you have to bring with you:

1)                 your Registration Certificate, Residence Card;
2)                 your expired (Maltese) ID Cards;
3)                 the completed Form ID 1A which you can download from the website mentioned above – the penultimate Form under Residence.

Your attention is being drawn to the fact that you have to submit the applications in person by appointment.  You can send an e-mail to:  eResidence.info@gov.mt for an appointment.


Delay is regretted


Regards

Joseph Treeby Ward
Adviser
Citizenship & Expatriate Affairs

Thanks Me3512.  However, I just emailed that address and it bounced straight back ...

situation normal then

why not write direct to their office that seems to work

Hello
I was wondering I gotten my ID this October. I first got notice of this dumb new ID at work (not by the bloody goverment) here in Febuary. So I wrote a mail to get an appointment for a new ID card. However, never got a reply, even after sending two more mails. I try to call them, but got in a unending line.
So if I have to stay in Malta until August or September this year do I require the new ID card and if I do any suggustion on how to get it?
I am doing an internship. However, I get no payment only the grants from back home. I am from Denmark so I am a EU citzen.


Another thing my old ID card, it doesn't work with the discount at the arriva busses anymore does it?
Because I never got a clear answer back from Arriva

Marlene

All old ID cards issued to foreigners expire tomorrow (no matter what it says on the card), so should no longer be acceptable by Arriva. Instead, you use your residence certificate.

"do I require the new ID card and if I do any suggustion on how to get it?" - yes you do, but you've fulfilled your legal obligation by asking for an appointment. Even if you get an appointment, its unlikely to be before July.

Ah okay thank you for the reply.
What the residence certificate? The only residence certification I have is my ID card and that old voting card from my city.

If you applied for an ID card you were legally supposed to apply for a residency certificate as well. These two are now being combined into one, the new eResidency card

That was odd all I got was my ID card nobody informed anything at all about a residency certificate that's why I am little confused

Probably half the foreigners living in Malta also don't have a residency certificate. Part of the problem is that they were issued by different departments.

Well as long as I can stay in Malta and finish my internship without any problems I think I survive without the bus discount even though it's a little bit corrupt to give special prices for residence. I mean normally the prices are equal for residence and the foreigners atleast where I come from and other countries I have been visiting. I guess it's just another way of ripping off foreigners. I mean I like Malta but I hate the way a lot of companies and shops try to rip off foreigners.

Higher bus fares isn't a company ripping off non-residents/residents without the proper paperwork, its set by the government, that makes it even worse !

governement sanctioned rip offs - never!!!!!whatever next two prices for utilities ?

and I'm still waiting! 1st email sent 5th Feb. Eventually got one but it was for Tuesday 11th May. Ok except 11th May is a Saturday!! I've sent endless requests for a proper date & can't get to Valletta to arrange an appointment in person due to work commitments. A colleague at work emailed weekly, got an appointment on one day, then a second appointment for a week later!
Its total chaos!

Grizabella wrote:

A colleague at work emailed weekly, got an appointment on one day, then a second appointment for a week later!
Its total chaos!

can sell the 2nd one on maltapark

+1

georgeingozo wrote:

Grizabella wrote:

A colleague at work emailed weekly, got an appointment on one day, then a second appointment for a week later!
Its total chaos!

can sell the 2nd one on maltapark

Popova A wrote:

rainbow3 wrote:

Just an update, sent couple of emails in February, sent a letter on Monday and received an appointment by email today for end of July so looks like things are being moved along, hope others receive their appointments soon too.

Wow good news

Can you tell me the email address please?

deborap7 wrote:

Popova A wrote:

rainbow3 wrote:

Just an update, sent couple of emails in February, sent a letter on Monday and received an appointment by email today for end of July so looks like things are being moved along, hope others receive their appointments soon too.

Wow good news

Can you tell me the email address please?

eresidence.mfa@gov.mt  ... Good luck.. We are still waiting for those blessed cards

Popova A wrote:

deborap7 wrote:

Popova A wrote:

Wow good news

Can you tell me the email address please?

eresidence.mfa@gov.mt  ... Good luck.. We are still waiting for those blessed cards

Thanks but I tried to send an email to that address and it came back (Delivery Status Notification... In February I sent 2 emails and I received no answer...I'm still trying to get an appointment...I feel hopeless...

deborap7 wrote:

Popova A wrote:

deborap7 wrote:

Can you tell me the email address please?

eresidence.mfa@gov.mt  ... Good luck.. We are still waiting for those blessed cards

Thanks but I tried to send an email to that address and it came back (Delivery Status Notification... In February I sent 2 emails and I received no answer...I'm still trying to get an appointment...I feel hopeless...

Very very normal....its a complete mess!

a personal visit to get an appointment or a letter is the only way now i reckon

I live in Gozo then I think I'll send a letter...hoping they'll answer one day...thanks

deborap7 wrote:

I live in Gozo then I think I'll send a letter...hoping they'll answer one day...thanks

..appoitments are given at the moment for end August

yep, heard someone went this week in person and were given date end august

If they were honest they should extend the residence permit validity (not only till the end of june)...

The domino effect -

What is the deal when you arrive in Malta and fail to get an appointment in time for a (Non-Eu) spouse?

According to some members here - There are now pushing appointments as far back as August.

Are Non-Eu spouses going to keep extending their Visas?

If that is the case and she arrived on a Tourist Visa, (Schengen Visa) then there is a limit to the extensions – Does that mean she has to get out of the country and reapply?   

This is getting ridiculous ……. Hope there are thinking broadly about this debacle!

Hello,
I am new to the forum, but have been following the various adventures related in this thread with great interest.

Clearly, I was tempting fate when, a couple of weeks ago, I casually mentioned to my spouse that it was wonderful that this year our residence papers were finally all in order. Little did I know...

My situation is as follows:
I am British, retired, self-sufficient, with a non-EU spouse. We reside in Malta, and we have both ID cards and residence documents. (Today I sent an email to the MoFA to request an appointment, and so far it has not bounced).

May I ask two specific questions?
They are as follows:

1) Let us assume we are given an appointment (I'll be keeping my autumn diary free), is there anyone in a comparable situation to ourselves who can advise what actual application forms we would need to bring? I have scrutinized 'eye-test chart' of form options, but am still not entirely sure.
Aside from the ID 1A and ID2 forms for each of us, am I correct that I would need the Form J (self-sufficient person)? And, for my non-EU wife, should we complete the CEA Form F...or CEA Form G? I am keen to avoid being sent away because we were armed with the wrong papers. Thank you.

2) My second question is about international travel for my wife. My wife has a Residence Card (specifically, a "Residence Card of a Family Member of a Union Citizen") with an expiry date of 2016. If we do not manage to obtain e-cards before June 30th, will she still be able to use her Residence Card (together with her passport, of course) to enable her to travel freely back-and-forth from Malta to outside Europe? Or, is it the case that from July 1st 2013 entry into Malta without an e-card will become difficult for her?
I have read contradictory answers regarding this, and would prefer her to be able to reenter the Schengen Area...you know... being married 'n' all.
Does anyone have clarification on this point, please?

Thank you for your time.
With regards,
lmg1000

lmg1000 wrote:

Aside from the ID 1A and ID2 forms for each of us,

foreigners only fill in ID 1A, not ID2

I'm informed somebody has been sending a 100 emails a day to book an appointment, and as a result the whole email system has ground to a halt

lmg1000 wrote:

2) My second question is about international travel for my wife. My wife has a Residence Card (specifically, a "Residence Card of a Family Member of a Union Citizen") with an expiry date of 2016. If we do not manage to obtain e-cards before June 30th, will she still be able to use her Residence Card (together with her passport,

as things stand, her residence card expires end June this year

Thank you, George.
As regards your second post, you seem to be extremely well connected!

Hi georgeingozo.
Thank you for your reply.
We recognize that the residence card will expire as a proxy for an ID card at the end of June.

However, separately, what I wish to establish is whether it will also expire as a supportive document for intercontinental travel. I was inferring from some sources that it would still be accepted for this purpose...or is that incorrect?
Thank you for your help.

lmg1000 wrote:

am I correct that I would need the Form J (self-sufficient person)? And, for my non-EU wife, should we complete the CEA Form F...or CEA Form G?

you J, your wife F (G is for family member of non-EU, and you are EU)

lmg1000 wrote:

Hi georgeingozo.
Thank you for your reply.
We recognize that the residence card will expire as a proxy for an ID card at the end of June.

However, separately, what I wish to establish is whether it will also expire as a supportive document for intercontinental travel. I was inferring from some sources that it would still be accepted for this purpose...or is that incorrect?
Thank you for your help.

the official announcement is that it expires end June - if it expires, it should be for all purposes. In reality, who knows. I personally wouldn't try to use it.

Thank you very much for your guidance with the forms. I appreciate it.

georgeingozo wrote:

lmg1000 wrote:

Hi georgeingozo.
Thank you for your reply.
We recognize that the residence card will expire as a proxy for an ID card at the end of June.

However, separately, what I wish to establish is whether it will also expire as a supportive document for intercontinental travel. I was inferring from some sources that it would still be accepted for this purpose...or is that incorrect?
Thank you for your help.

the official announcement is that it expires end June - if it expires, it should be for all purposes. In reality, who knows. I personally wouldn't try to use it.

Oh dear. It's as bad as that?

This is certainly an interesting strategy for document processing: make it up as you go along. No wonder the MoFA staff are getting frayed.

Thank you for your considered view.

expired id cards are currently still being accepted all over the island - and i doubt that anyone would know what the old res cert looks like and i am certainly expecting confusion when the new e-res cards appear in use.... imagine one guy with a res cer (old one) and another with then new e-res card.....both applying for whatever it is...hmmm - they need to sort this and quickly.

toonarmy9752 wrote:

i am certainly expecting confusion when the new e-res cards appear in use.

they already are in small numbers, and after initial problems people as saying they are being accepted on buses and the ferry