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a guy I know just sent me this:  " I went to the police station twice yesterday and they told me that they won't sign my picture."


this could get interesting.....

me3512 wrote:

a guy I know just sent me this:  " I went to the police station twice yesterday and they told me that they won't sign my picture."


this could get interesting.....

In Gozo there is only one police station that signs forms - its the one in Victoria near the fire station

i thought a colander was way of planning your life

this is def going to be interesting especiaslly for newbies whom the hell do they get. Q does the certifier have to know you for 2 years or is it simply certifying that it is a true likeness?

toonarmy9752 wrote:

i thought a colander was way of planning your life

the FSM will send his suicide bombers after you for comments like that, lack of respect for his ministers' finery

One of my working mates told me yesterday, a few days ago he sent a mail to get an appointment and received an immediate reply, that he can, but do not have to wait for an appointment any more.
Instead he also can directly go there on a a first come, first served basis ...

Ah, yes, and the validation of all old ID cards is now extended until End of November ... for now :-)

matm911 wrote:

Ah, yes, and the validation of all old ID cards is now extended until End of November ... for now :-)

Thats what The Times reported, but as Ricky pointed out no legal notice has been issued (as of a couple of days ago) so it hasn't been extended yet

and my old card was rejected by my bank yesterday so the extension of validity is not true or at least not legalised and thus not recognised.

You could just break down and stop in and visit a priest, offer up a small boy and a bottle of Jack as payment for signing your photo ....   


---  yeah I know..... I just picked up my ticket to hell....

update:

Dear Sir,

Further to your request hereunder, and according to the Department of Citizenship and Expatriate Affairs, it is being suggested you travel with the card issued by the said department and the ID card or passport of the country of origin.

Regards,

Nathalie Attard
Customer Care Co-ordinator
Ministry for Home Affairs and National Security
Valletta


________________________________________
From: me
Sent: 10 May 2013 08:55
To: Customer Care at MHAS
Subject: quick question

Can my new ID card be used for travel throughout the EU ?

____________


a simple no would have worked....

Only in Malta!!!!!

me3512 wrote:

update:

Dear Sir,

Further to your request hereunder, and according to the Department of Citizenship and Expatriate Affairs, it is being suggested you travel with the card issued by the said department and the ID card or passport of the country of origin.

Regards,

Nathalie Attard
Customer Care Co-ordinator
Ministry for Home Affairs and National Security
Valletta


________________________________________
From: me
Sent: 10 May 2013 08:55
To: Customer Care at MHAS
Subject: quick question

Can my new ID card be used for travel throughout the EU ?

____________


a simple no would have worked....

Hmm....i had sent 2 emails from 2 different mails and still do not have an answer

Sorry to ask more questions about this. But do I need to complete forms F and ID 1&2 for my kids? What do you think would suffice as proof of living with someone for the last 2 years? Thanks have appointment next Wednesay and want everything right.. Thanks in advance..

Hi ash,

I'm not quite sure about the background of your question about living together for two years. Are you aiming at the non-married partner status?

The question is not actually whether you have been living together for two years! You have to prove that you have been in a durable relationship for more than two years. The Maltese accept living together in Malta for two years as proof. Anything else would be subject to discussions and probably very difficult.

It is only really relevant if you have a non-EU partner who you want to get accepted as a family member even if you are not married.

If your partner is EU he/she has resident rights subject to conditions anyway.

Cheers
Ricky

Thanks Ricky, This whole thing is so fustrating. Not married but been living together at same address in Malta for the last 3 years and 6 in the UK before that.. So lets hope all goes smoothly and we have no mishaps. Thanks again.

ash73 wrote:

Thanks Ricky, This whole thing is so fustrating. Not married but been living together at same address in Malta for the last 3 years and 6 in the UK before that.. So lets hope all goes smoothly and we have no mishaps. Thanks again.

If you have been living in Malta for the past 3 years then you should already have residency. Just take your old ID and residency certificate along with the filled in forms, that should be proof enough.

Terry

Someone commenting on the story today in The Times said they were rejected as being self sufficient because they didnt have a local bank account!  I wasnt aware you were required to have your money in a Maltese bank to prove self sufficiency?

rainbow3 wrote:

Someone commenting on the story today in The Times said they were rejected as being self sufficient because they didnt have a local bank account!  I wasnt aware you were required to have your money in a Maltese bank to prove self sufficiency?

you aren't - suspect devil is in the detail

okay thanks george

Can a family doctor sign your documents for applying by post?? After reading todays article not sure if I want to go there with 2 young kids with me.Thanks

tearnet wrote:

ash73 wrote:

Thanks Ricky, This whole thing is so fustrating. Not married but been living together at same address in Malta for the last 3 years and 6 in the UK before that.. So lets hope all goes smoothly and we have no mishaps. Thanks again.

If you have been living in Malta for the past 3 years then you should already have residency. Just take your old ID and residency certificate along with the filled in forms, that should be proof enough.

Terry

Exactly Terry - all you need to do is effectively swap your old residency docs for an eresidency card - no additional proof required

georgeingozo wrote:

tearnet wrote:

ash73 wrote:

Thanks Ricky, This whole thing is so fustrating. Not married but been living together at same address in Malta for the last 3 years and 6 in the UK before that.. So lets hope all goes smoothly and we have no mishaps. Thanks again.

If you have been living in Malta for the past 3 years then you should already have residency. Just take your old ID and residency certificate along with the filled in forms, that should be proof enough.

Terry

Exactly Terry - all you need to do is effectively swap your old residency docs for an eresidency card - no additional proof required

So why make it so difficult - many people have the old res cert - and the dept know who they are - they also already have a digital photo of these people why couldnt they just re-issue automatically - one assumes that the majority of those who have acted properly and responsibly having got the old res cert will have maintained the integrity of their addresses too.... so blooming simple - this is a joke - and laughable if it wasnt so serious for many - especially for those new arrivals who come here and will wait for ages all the while paying through the nose for all sorts through no fault of their own - or is this part of the plan to drain last few euros out of the foreigner.

Hi ash,

to correct myself in one point : You have to be in a durable relationship - the law does not actually state 2 years!.

The Maltese intepret 'durable' as living together in Malta for more than two years. The proof is on your side of convincing the DCEA.

If you already have residency documents with the same address for 3 years I don't see any problem and you should not have to prove your case again. We didn't (British/American)!

Things that helped in our case were a rental contract in both names and cover letter from a Maltese 'professional' and a little squabble during the interview which resulted in the comment - 'I can see you both are an old couple - you're in !

If you both didn't apply for residency in the past 3 years there might be a problem as you will have to prove that you have been living together (at the same address is part of the Maltese interpretation but not in the law). Same address on ID cards is not really proof.

Cheers
Ricky



Cheers
Ricky

from yesterdays news:  well mabey not news, but from the times http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/vi … -at.469658

some of the comments are pretty good as well

Thanks everyone for your advice and comments. We have never applied for residency while we have been here just have old Id cards. But have our rental contract from our landlord in both our names for the last 3 years along with joint bank account with BOV. Lets hope we have no problems. Have a good day everyone.

ash73 wrote:

We have never applied for residency while we have been here just have old Id cards.

you may have a problem - you are claiming you have been resident, but didn't fulfil your legal obligations, so they could say you weren't resident

ash73 wrote:

Thanks everyone for your advice and comments. We have never applied for residency while we have been here just have old Id cards. But have our rental contract from our landlord in both our names for the last 3 years along with joint bank account with BOV. Lets hope we have no problems. Have a good day everyone.

Good luck, Your not the first who never bothered with residency and one of the reasons they are changing the system. If you are working and paying tax then the authorities have already accepted you as a resident by default!

Terry

have you been submitting an annual tax return ?

Yesterday Legal Notice 147 of 2013 was published, extending the validity of Maltese ID cards issued to foreign nationals (i.e. ID cards whose identifying number contains the letter ‘A’) until 30th November 2013 (instead of the earlier determined 31st March 2013).

http://www.justiceservices.gov.mt/Downl … =24965&l=1

well spotted :-)

Hello,

we have applied for e-Residency, had the appointment, have the blue A temporary card issued nearly 3 months ago. But we have not heard from them yet, they said they will contact us once the cards are ready to be collecte. Do we have to call them or do we just wait?

Thanks,
Jitka

I contacted them, (above post) but I seem to be the only one lucky enough to get any kind of reply on the issue.

Hi,

We went today to Valletta for ID.
We had an appointment at 2 PM.
In the morning we took fresh ID photos for all family members.
Then we went to a police station to validate the photos and passport copies (Sliema police station). We had no luck, nobody wanted to sign it.
Then we went to the local council of Sliema. Here we waited a bit but finally got our photos and photocopies signed
Then we headed to Valletta. We arrived at 13:30. There were no receptionist at all so I stood next to an open door and  caught a clerk there, who said basically nothing. So I was waiting there with some other ppl, at 2pm a clerk came out and we were on his list, so we could go in and finish the whole process in 10 minutes (with my wife + 2 children).
So it was quite smooth with an appointment.
One thing, if u go personal you don't have to bring ID photos with you, they will take pictures there...

In 1 week we can go for the temporary IDs back to Valletta.

Andras

Entity wrote:

One thing, if u go personal you don't have to bring ID photos with you, they will take pictures there...

that is confirmed in the FAQ issued by the ministry

Entity wrote:

Hi,

We went today to Valletta for ID.
We had an appointment at 2 PM.
In the morning we took fresh ID photos for all family members.
Then we went to a police station to validate the photos and passport copies (Sliema police station). We had no luck, nobody wanted to sign it.
Then we went to the local council of Sliema. Here we waited a bit but finally got our photos and photocopies signed
Then we headed to Valletta. We arrived at 13:30. There were no receptionist at all so I stood next to an open door and  caught a clerk there, who said basically nothing. So I was waiting there with some other ppl, at 2pm a clerk came out and we were on his list, so we could go in and finish the whole process in 10 minutes (with my wife + 2 children).
So it was quite smooth with an appointment.
One thing, if u go personal you don't have to bring ID photos with you, they will take pictures there...

In 1 week we can go for the temporary IDs back to Valletta.

Andras

Congrats!
You are one of the lucky ones! Most of the ppl were there for hours!!
We are still waiting for our new e-cards since 23 rd January

Cheers
Ani

Popova A wrote:

Congrats!
You are one of the lucky ones! Most of the ppl were there for hours!!
We are still waiting for our new e-cards since 23 rd January

Cheers
Ani

Thanks,

I was afraid of it, waiting long hours with two small children is not the easiest task..
I hope the temporary id will be enough for a the school (for the younger one they want it, I don't know why).

georgeingozo wrote:

that is confirmed in the FAQ issued by the ministry

Ah, I missed that part. My bad.
Andras

Exactly the same. We were there yesterday, all documents are in order, no extra questions. For me, me wife and 2 children it took half an hour approx. (mostly because of my daughter's photo )

The only issue is the same as Entity mentioned - you arrive in time and should catch the guy with the list just to say that you are here. No receptionist or smth similar.

Spiridonov wrote:

Exactly the same. We were there yesterday, all documents are in order, no extra questions. For me, me wife and 2 children it took half an hour approx. (mostly because of my daughter's photo )

The only issue is the same as Entity mentioned - you arrive in time and should catch the guy with the list just to say that you are here. No receptionist or smth similar.

Does this mean that the service improved? Hm.....now they need to speed the process of issuing the new ecards!

Cheers
Ani

Yep, they are quite improving. There was almost no queue, 3 desks with photo- and finger- systems (no idea how it's called) and no hassle.

Regarding the issuance of the cards - I've provided them with the flight tickets and hope it will help to make it in time.