New I.D. card rules

toonarmy9752 wrote:

NO REPLY to mine yet (3 weeks) they ve defo got it - tracked by registered mail

I thought it said on their website that they will acknowledge people who apply by mail, obviously aint gonna happen!

no real surprise

toonarmy9752 wrote:

NO REPLY to mine yet (3 weeks) they ve defo got it - tracked by registered mail

Did you send your original registration document with your application or just a copy toon?

Hi Guys - Does this ''post procedure'' apply to NON-EU partners or do they have to show up in person.

Thanks
Meddie

Hi Meddie
Looking at the FAQ on the link GIG gave it says that NON EU have to go in person because of the biometrics (fingerprints) that are required for the new EID.

Terry

I thought  non EU partners of an EU citizen dont have to go in person because they are not applying as a non EU citizen but as a family member of an EU citizen

georgeingozo wrote:

non EU partners of an EU citizen dont have to go in person because they are not applying as a non EU citizen but as a family member of an EU citizen

I stand corrected.


Terry

Thank you chaps -!

FYI - Barclays are being difficult about giving me a 12 month bank statement. Would a 3 month bank statement do if you're applying as a self sufficient EU national or its strictly 12 months?

Thanks
Meddie

HSBC gave us a "net worth" statement and that was accepted.

Terry

tearnet wrote:

HSBC gave us a "net worth" statement and that was accepted.

Terry

Hi Terry

Meaning - The statement will show net worth as opposed to the timeline of transactions. Is that right?

Thanks
Meddie

are you going for the income or the capital proof ?

georgeingozo wrote:

are you going for the income or the capital proof ?

Income proof GNG!

Thanks

will you have the same income source when in Malta ? if not, then showing what you currently earn in the UK is meaningless - do you have a job offer showing salary in Malta ?

georgeingozo wrote:

will you have the same income source when in Malta ? if not, then showing what you currently earn in the UK is meaningless - do you have a job offer showing salary in Malta ?

Hi GNG -

I am self-employed so I earn money no matter which country I am residing in - my work is online based and the occasional phone calls.

However my saving account should show current saved funds - Because 50% of my income goes directly into savings anyway.

The bank can issue a statement for six months but they are being difficult on a 12 month statement.

Thanks
Meddie

SMeddie wrote:

tearnet wrote:

HSBC gave us a "net worth" statement and that was accepted.

Terry

Hi Terry

Meaning - The statement will show net worth as opposed to the timeline of transactions. Is that right?

Thanks
Meddie

YES, It worked OK for us.

Terry

tearnet wrote:

SMeddie wrote:

tearnet wrote:

HSBC gave us a "net worth" statement and that was accepted.

Terry

Hi Terry

Meaning - The statement will show net worth as opposed to the timeline of transactions. Is that right?

Thanks
Meddie

YES, It worked OK for us.

Terry

Thanks Terry!

surely a statement of net worth only works if you are going the capital route

rainbow3 wrote:

toonarmy9752 wrote:

NO REPLY to mine yet (3 weeks) they ve defo got it - tracked by registered mail

Did you send your original registration document with your application or just a copy toon?

No a copy

I wouldnt send any original as its the only proof we've got

toonarmy9752 wrote:

rainbow3 wrote:

toonarmy9752 wrote:

NO REPLY to mine yet (3 weeks) they ve defo got it - tracked by registered mail

Did you send your original registration document with your application or just a copy toon?

No a copy

I wouldnt send any original as its the only proof we've got

Thanks toon, I dont blame you there! Please let us know if/when you get a reply to your application.

SMeddie wrote:

Thank you chaps -!

FYI - Barclays are being difficult about giving me a 12 month bank statement. Would a 3 month bank statement do if you're applying as a self sufficient EU national or its strictly 12 months?

Thanks
Meddie

If your 3 month statement shows enough income to clear the 12 month minimum, then would be fine (as even if you earned nothing in the previous 9 months you are still over the minimum)

georgeingozo wrote:

surely a statement of net worth only works if you are going the capital route

Does it make any difference? its just a snapshot in time as you only do it once and do not have to prove it each year.

Terry

If you are going the capital route you have to show a level of capital so net worth works. However, if you are going the income route to have to show flows, which a snapshot doesn't.

georgeingozo wrote:

SMeddie wrote:

Thank you chaps -!

FYI - Barclays are being difficult about giving me a 12 month bank statement. Would a 3 month bank statement do if you're applying as a self sufficient EU national or its strictly 12 months?

Thanks
Meddie

If your 3 month statement shows enough income to clear the 12 month minimum, then would be fine (as even if you earned nothing in the previous 9 months you are still over the minimum)

Thanks

So Saving or Current account will do as long as the threshold is reached. Super!

I'm assuming but net worth statement you mean a statement showing the net assets held at a particular bank at a moment in time, and not the flows as well over a period of time.

SMeddie wrote:

So Saving or Current account will do as long as the threshold is reached. Super!

as long as either the income or capital threshold is met, if necessary over several bank accounts (as long as you can prove money isn't being double counted), then you are fine.

If you have a choice, go the capital route, as its simple, whereas with income there might be questions about whether that income will continue when you move, and if it will whether you will need to declare it as local income.

georgeingozo wrote:

If you have a choice, go the capital route, as its simple, whereas with income there might be questions about whether that income will continue when you move, and if it will whether you will need to declare it as local income.

Thanks GNG

Not to sound too naive, but is the capital route the same self-sufficient route by a different way of proving sustainability - Right?

its the same form, just under capital you have to show capital of € 23,000 odd, under income, income of 8,000 odd pa (cant remember exact figures) - its all about showing you have the resources to live on without needing support from the state

georgeingozo wrote:

its the same form, just under capital you have to show capital of € 23,000 odd, under income, income of 8,000 odd pa (cant remember exact figures) - its all about showing you have the resources to live on without needing support from the state

Thanks GNG - You're priceless like MasterCard!

Hi SMeddie,
I am in the same boat as you, wife of an EU national. Btw...now, you can print 12 months statement online through Barclayswealth. We just took in our papers today..not bad at all. We went the self sufficient route as my hubby's a pro photographer and without a job yet, it was going to be harder that way. We actually only needed last month's statement. I had previous months, but he only wanted the last one showing enough funds. It was smooth and painless. The line was super long, but when l picked up the forms last week, l made sure to smile like l always do, and say grazzi haffna to the man. He remembered us, and came to get us from  the line and we were in and out in less than 15 minutes. Good luck..

KemKem wrote:

We actually only needed last month's statement. I had previous months, but he only wanted the last one showing enough funds..

does that mean you went the capital rather than income proof route ?

Yes..we did..George

that would be why they only needed to see one statement then :-)


completely agree with you - a bit of politeness and a smile go a long way - I think some people forget that the staff there are people as well, and are doing their best in an over stretched department

Spot on George, that is exactly what the man said...there are only 5 people handling the loads of files coming in. They are really stressed, so smile and empathize with them. It really does make one's day..

KemKem wrote:

Hi SMeddie,
I am in the same boat as you, wife of an EU national. Btw...now, you can print 12 months statement online through Barclayswealth. We just took in our papers today..not bad at all. We went the self sufficient route as my hubby's a pro photographer and without a job yet, it was going to be harder that way. We actually only needed last month's statement. I had previous months, but he only wanted the last one showing enough funds. It was smooth and painless. The line was super long, but when l picked up the forms last week, l made sure to smile like l always do, and say grazzi haffna to the man. He remembered us, and came to get us from  the line and we were in and out in less than 15 minutes. Good luck..

Hi KemKem

Thanks for the update - In other wards, a three month statement would be sufficient as long as it satisfies the criteria. FYI a smile sometimes does wonders.

I am going to send you a PM my wife needs a few pointers about ''Saloon & hair stuff'' in Malta. (Sorry for the assumption that you might know - But she is questioning me left right and centre hence the cry for help)

Thanks
Meddie

Re: The ‘e-Residence Card’.

An ‘e-Residence Card’ may under no circumstances be made a precondition for the exercise of a right or the completion of an administrative formality, because entitlement to rights may be attested by any other means of proof.

See page 36: Article 25 - General provisions concerning residence documents

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex … 123:en:PDF

On application for or retrieval of your 'e-Residence Card' / New identity card - enrol on the European Parliament electoral register and vote to advance your EU civil rights to equal treatment.

Non-Maltese EU citizens living in Malta can now enrol and vote at the next European Parliament elections scheduled for May 2014.

You can enrol on the European Parliament electoral register at:

1) The Department for Citizenship and Expatriate Affairs on application for or retrieval of your 'e-Residence Card' / New identity card.

Or

2) The Electoral Commission / Identity Card Office at Evans Building, Valletta or the Identity Card Office, Victoria, Gozo.
Non-Maltese EU voter enrolment form for the European Parliament electoral register:

http://www.electoral.gov.mt/getresource.aspx?id=83

What are you supposed to do between the time your old ID expires and them issuing the new one?

Your old ID card is valid until end Nov (ignore the expiry date on the card)

Good to know. I did the application process but haven't received my new papers yet. Thanks!