Islam question for you all

I personally don't see a problem with that, and I'm a Muslim myself. I don't want to even get involved in discussions that people would have about God, angels, etc.
I mean come on people, God is not a form here..God has asked us to do certain good things in this life, so if others whatever their religion is do them, why would I even start complaining. No one has the right to ever judge anyone unless he/she is perfect and since no single human being is perfect except God and prophets, I would not accept any person to judge others. Hence, peacelovelight, I appreciate your kindness and your concern about what others would say, but sometimes giving others an opportunity to express their "false" feedback would make things even worse and give a value to none-sense.

i converted to islam 6 years ago, hamdullilah. from what i understand in studying the quran and sunnah it is haram. islam does not support the idea of "past lives". we believe that we are given one life and that after you die...you are dead and you then await judgement day while dealing with what the grave has to offer you according to what you have done. there is no concept of returning again to retry, or redo or relearn anything we may of missed the first go around. islam does not support this type of ideology in general. people who work in this thing are not backed by any scholar of islam as far as i know. may Allah make it clear to us the right path insha Allah and help us all to strive for the good and work to better ourselves by depending and serving Allah and serving each other. i also want to add, i am not a scholar and of course...Allah knows best!!!

i also want to add i am not attempting to debate, or condemn anyone who believes in such ways, i was only trying to answer the question is it haram....and i think yes it is. but much love to you!!!! (trust me im not hatin on anyone or anyone's beliefs )

Well thanks to both of you for your opinions. That helps me understand more.

May I add something...umzakariah mentioned,

"there is no concept of returning again to retry, or redo or relearn anything we may of missed the first go around. islam does not support this type of ideology in general. people who work in this thing are not backed by any scholar of islam as far as i know."

Ok..so here's my question...maybe there are no Islamic scholars who have proof of past lives, etc. but there are hundreds of scholars from all kinds of backgrounds who have proved that there are past lives..going back 100's of years...are their works not accepted because they are not Islam? Or would it be mostly because in the Qur'an it says it isn't so...so therefore by suggesting it you'd be haram?

Just curious...I am just trying to understand...thanks so much for your point of view :

Ok...and one more...if there was an Islamic scholar who had proof of this, would it be accepted or would people think he/she was haram for saying such a thing?

Or if it was discovered to be true in one the 70 Jordanian codices found a few years ago? I understand that their translation progress is slow due to the controversial content found inside. Have you heard of these?

Here's a modern day scholar who has spent 40 years proving that indeed it does...
http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-proof.htm

what is your opinion about this? again..I am just trying to understand the mindset of Muslim people...not to try and upset or change anything. And also, tell me if what I am presenting to talk about is offensive, because this is not my intention.

SHUKRAN

Hello peacelovelight,
Let me state that I am a science graduate and I don’t believe most things without finding the ‘why’… Born Indian Muslim, I never practised Islam until I came to UK 17 years back. I also want to add, I am not an Islamic scholar and of course...Allah knows best!!!

I appreciate your effort in “trying to understand the mindset of Muslim people” and that you are “Just curious...I am just trying to understand...thanks so much for your point of view…” Having doubts in Allah Almighty is natural and one should avoid being too concerned about them. In fact, doubts and evil thoughts are a sign of one’s faith.

•Importance of Intention in Seeking Knowledge
Allah has given every human being a mind which is capable to understand that he is the one and everlasting God…even if he stays in a jungle ...like the world’s lost tribes…by seeing the nature around him...
It is mentioned in the Quran…refer to
dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/surah31.html

10. He has created the heavens without any pillars that you see and has set on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with you. And He has scattered therein moving (living) creatures of all kinds. And We send down water (rain) from the sky, and We cause (plants) of every goodly kind to grow therein.
31. See you not that the ships sail through the sea by Allah's Grace? that He may show you of His Signs? Verily, in this are signs for every patient, grateful (person).

I would advise you to visit an authentic site:
daruliftaa.com/questions?txt_CategoryID=CAT0000001 for most of your questions..regarding Islamic concepts. I assure you will find all the answers. However, after Ramadhaan Eid this Sunday, you could ask them any question you have and they are best to answer from their authenic knowledge. If you are still unsatisfied with any of their answers, please get back to me…

Coming to another major ‘question’ …

•    .Hi...I was wondering if it is ok with Islam to use a healer. I have a collection of different people who use healing modalities such as: reiki,…..

My reply: Using of Amulets (ta'wizes).
From this site I answer your above question:
daruliftaa.com/question?txt_QuestionID=q-23000762
What is the ruling on wearing an amulet (ta’weez)? People have the belief that wearing a string around the neck will protect them, when surely only Allah protects. Please tell me the ruling on wearing this, for many people say that it is shirk.
Hanging or wearing of amulets (ta’wiz) is normally permissible for protection or healing provided certain conditions are met:

1) That they consist of the names of Allah Almighty or his attributes;

2) That they are in Arabic;

3) That they do not consist of anything that is disbelief (kufr);

4) The user does not believe the words have any affect in themselves, but are empowered to do so by Allah Most High.

It is narrated from Amr ibn Shu’ayb, from his father, from his grandfather (Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-Aas (Allah be pleased with them all), that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) used to teach them (the Sahabas) for fearful situations the following words:

“I seek refuge in Allah’s perfect words from His wrath, the evil of his servants, the whispered insinuations of devils, and that they come to me”

Abd Allah ibn Amr used to teach these words to those of his sons who had reached the age of reason, and used to write them and hang them upon those who had not reached the age of reason (narrated by Abu Dawud & Tirmidhi, and Tirmidhi classed it as an authentic narration).

In the Musannaf of Imam Abu Bakr ibn Abi Shayba, the permissibility of hanging Ta’wizes is reported from many of the Companions and early Muslims (Salaf), including: Sa’id ibn al-Musayyab, Ata', Mujahid, Abd Allah ibn Amr, Ibn Sirin, Ubaydullah ibn Abd Allah ibn Umar, and others (Allah be well pleased with them all). [See: al-Musannaf, 5.439].

Due to the above, most of the scholars have declared the using of amulets (ta’wiz) permissible as long as the above conditions are met. It is similar to using medication which is permissible and not against the concept of reliance in Allah (tawakkul) or monotheism Tawhid. However, it is not permissible to regard the Ta’wiz to be effective in it self, just as it is not permissible to regard medicines to be effective in them selves.

As for that which is reported from some, including Ibn Mas’ud (Allah be pleased with him), that hanging Ta’wizes is shirk, this is understood to mean those Ta’wizes that resemble the one’s used in the days of ignorance (jahiliyya), or if used thinking that it is the ta’wiz itself that cures or protects, not Allah, or if it contains impermissible invocations or one’s whose meaning is not known.

The great Hanafi Jurist, Imam Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“Using of Ta’wizes will not be permissible if they are written in a non-Arabic language in that its meaning is not known. They may consist of black magic, disbelief or impermissible invocations. However, if they consist of Qur’anic verses or prescribed supplications (duas), then there is nothing wrong with using them (Radd al-Muhtar).

Imam Ibn Taymiyya (Allah have mercy on him) writes in his Fatawa:

“It is permissible for an ill or troubled person, that certain verses from the Qur’an are written with pure ink, then it is washed and given to the ill to drink. Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) is reported to have mentioned a certain Dua that should be written and placed close to the woman who is experiencing hard labour at the time of giving birth.

Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) says: This Dua should be written and tied to the arm of the woman. We have experienced that there is nothing more amazing than this” (Fatawa Ibn Taymiyya, 19/65).

Imam Ibn Taymiyya’s student Imam Ibn al-Qayyim also narrates the permissibility of using Ta’wizes from a number of salafs including the great Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (Allah have mercy on him). Thereafter Ibn al-Qayyim himself quotes various Ta’wizes (Zad al-Ma’ad, 3/180).

In view of the foregoing, it becomes clear that generally using of Ta’wizes is not something that is impermissible or Shirk. However, it is necessary that the above mentioned conditions are met.

Today we have people who are victims of immoderation. There are some people who declare all types of Ta’wizes to be Shirk and Kufr. Others, on the other hand, think Ta’wizes to be everything. Both these types of understandings are incorrect.

Using of Ta’wizes is permissible, but with moderation. Normally it is better to recite the Duas which are prescribed for every problem and illness, and along with that resort to medical treatment. However, if Ta’wizes are used sometimes, then it is permissible.

If there is a fear that a person will begin to think the Ta’wiz to be effective in it self, then he should not be given the Ta’wiz. This will be the decision of the person who is giving the Ta’wiz, and not for us to decide for him.

There are many people who never make Dua and are neglectful of the Shariah injunctions, but always depend on Ta’wizes. For such people, it is better not to give them Ta’wizes, rather to direct them to the straight path.

Once, a sister asked me to mention to her a Dua or write something for her in order to get married to someone she desired, and she also mentioned that her Duas were not being answered. I asked: “Do you cover yourself when you emerge out of your home?” no, was the reply. I said: “Do you perform your Salat (Prayers)?” Again, “no” was the reply. I said: “From tomorrow, you make this special Dua after the Fajr Salat, and you carry on performing this for 6 months, and Insha Allah your Dua will be accepted. Also a very Important Ta’wiz is that you recite a certain Dua and blow on your scarf and wear that scarf when emerging out of your home”!

In conclusion, generally it is permissible to use amulets (ta’wizes) in compliance with the conditions mentioned above. However, if there is something that is impermissible, then it will not be allowed.

And Allah Knows Best
[Mufti] Muhammad ibn Adam
Darul Iftaa
Leicester , UK

•    “maybe there are no Islamic scholars who have proof of past lives, etc. but there are hundreds of scholars from all kinds of backgrounds who have proved that there are past lives..going back 100's of years...are their works not accepted because they are not Islam? Or would it be mostly because in the Qur'an it says it isn't so...so therefore by suggesting it you'd be haram?”
•    Ok...and one more...if there was an Islamic scholar who had proof of this, would it be accepted or would people think he/she was haram for saying such a thing?
Or if it was discovered to be true in one the 70 Jordanian codices found a few years ago? I understand that their translation progress is slow due to the controversial content found inside. Have you heard of these?

For this, you may refer to "Does The Holy Qur'an Support the Reincarnation theory?

: .quran.org.uk/articles/ieb_quran_reincarnation.htm

.. TO CONCLUDE, and since we are given clear Qur'anic evidence against the concept of reincarnation, we must submit to such truth and discard this concept without any hesitation. This life on earth is our ONLY chance for redemption. We should set our goals and priorities straight, and seek God's approval through righteousness and good deeds. Contrary to what the devil may want us to believe, we will NOT get another chance.
Regards
Rehana

Well thanks flowerinjannah for your lengthy replies, however, somehow we seem to be on slightly different subjects..and the topic got changed a bit...

Your first comment on my comment:
I wrote, "I appreciate your effort in “trying to understand the mindset of Muslim people” and that you are “Just curious...I am just trying to understand...thanks so much for your point of view…”

You replied
"Having doubts in Allah Almighty is natural and one should avoid being too concerned about them. In fact, doubts and evil thoughts are a sign of one’s faith."

I am not quite sure how me asking how Muslim people feel about healers would make you assume I am doubting Allah or having evil thoughts. This keeps happening...so once and for all please understand..I believe in Allah..thanks for all the Qur'an references..but I think you missed the point of the question.

The same thing in the second reply you gave me about amulets..which was interesting also, however, note that reiki is a form of healing using just your hands, Allah and energy...it's a quick and invasive way to get straight to the problem which is located in the person's energy field...often the energy will be stuck in one area where there was trauma...physical or emotional...the healer simply is the in-between person that can unstick it. I'm not sure where amulets relate to reiki...
I am sure you can find a much better explanation online.

And the third...where again, thanks for your Qur'an references..I was really just curious about what people, as in individuals thought about healers, not necessarily what is written in the Qur'an.

Like for example: Let's say your mom has diabetes and can't walk. She's been to the doctors and the only thing they can do for her is to give her medicine for the rest of her life.

You hear about a healer that is visiting Jordan and has healed many from other villages. The healer will be in your village. Would you invite the healer to help your mom?

That's more of what I am asking. I guess I wasn't clear enough. So sorry.

PS Flowerinjannah- Do you teach the Qur'an? If not...maybe you should...you seem to know it and have a deep interest in it...seems like it is a natural gift for you to understand it so well. Very impressive

when i say the word scholar i am specifically referring to "islamic scholar". there are other religions that believe in the idea of past lives or reincarnation, and they have scholars that will die swearing on what they believe. as a muslim we hold firm to the quran and the sunnah of the prophet (pbuh). and the quran says
Every soul will taste death, and you will only be given your [full] compensation on the Day
of Resurrection. So he who is drawn away from the Fire and admitted to Paradise has
attained [his desire]. And what is the life of this world except the enjoyment of delusion.
(Ale-‘Imraan 3:185)
Say, "Indeed, the death from which you flee - indeed, it will meet you. Then you will be
returned to the Knower of the unseen and the witnessed, and He will inform you about what
you used to do." (Al-Jumu’ah 62:8)
after you die, the quran never mentions returning to try again. when death takes a person, and we will all taste it, we return to God (Allah) and then we see what we made of this life. muslims do not, or should not look to scholars from other beliefs or religions for advice or proofs. we look to the quran and the sunnah for proofs and then listen to scholars who understand those proofs. and again....ALLAH KNOWS BEST!
please be careful not to get into bidah. bidah is innovation or things created. and the wearing of anulets or charms is bidah. nothing can protect you except Allah and the wearing of something will not save you if your time is called then your time is called regardless of what is around your neck or if you are wearing the name of Allah or whatever. walk with faith, love life and be thankful!

I am so confused!!! Why do you write:

"please be careful not to get into bidah. bidah is innovation or things created. and the wearing of anulets or charms is bidah. nothing can protect you except Allah and the wearing of something will not save you if your time is called then your time is called regardless of what is around your neck or if you are wearing the name of Allah or whatever. walk with faith, love life and be thankful!

Where is this coming from?...honestly, I never asked anything close to this...
and what do you mean "nothing will protect me" from what?" I just wanted to know if Jordan would be interested in having healers visit that's all...

and forget I mentioned past lives...i just wanted to know about HEALERS, you know people who heal the sick.

Ismalik...you wrote:
Hence, peacelovelight, I appreciate your kindness and your concern about what others would say, but sometimes giving others an opportunity to express their "false" feedback would make things even worse and give a value to none-sense.

You are right on that one I see it has only caused mass confusion and a lot of misinterpretation.

i appologize for jumping off topic. im sure there are people in jordan who will welcome the healers interested in coming and im sure there are those who wouldn't welcome them. much peace and love to you.

Hello peacelovelight,

Firstly as mentioned I don't teach the Quran. However, as umzakariah explained ..."as a muslim we hold firm to the quran and the sunnah of the prophet (pbuh). and the quran says".

So to say, when the thread is titled, "Islam question for you all"... I simply tried to relate "my thoughts" to the Quran.
May Allah guide all the children of Adam to the right path. Ameen

Regards,


Rehana

Not sure I agree with umzakariah on past lives. The Koran also says:

“How can you disbelieve in Allah when you were dead and He gave you life, then He puts you to death, then He brings you back to life, then to Him you ultimately return?” (2:28)

A lot of sufis I have met over the years point to this verse as a clear indication that it is the soul that has one life, and one life only. It doesn't then follow that the soul cannot be reborn over and over again onto this physical plane if it pleases Allah. At some point the soul will die and thereafter face the day of judgement.

It is not just christians who believe Christ will be reborn. So do muslims, who also believe Christ was mortal, a prophet no doubt, but also just a man. How can he be reborn onto this plane without being reincarnated?

This isn't just about belief. It is also about leaving what is to Allah, to Allah. Allah can do whatever He pleases, including reincarnate whichever soul he chooses to. Who are we to say any different?

Reincarnation is just a word describing the passage of the soul, through several different bodies, and several different planes. It's not a question of belief. What happens after a physical death? Clearly the soul lives on, right up until the judgement day. The form it can take, the planes and times it can travel through? All of this is up to Allah.

Peacelovelight, there are faith healers in Jordan, some of them with huge followings. The one I went to many years ago now used eggs, on which she wrote verses of the Koran, and fire.

Well thanks Deb568-
I am glad to read what was written in the Qur'an regarding there is one soul but many lifetimes. I have just read too many books filled with case studies over the past thirty years proving this to be true, that there is no way I would ever change my mind.
I must admit...I was quite disappointed when I read that Islam says there is only one life. I really felt like we were oh so different in thinking there for a couple of days...but now I am very relieved!!

Honestly, since I've had these discussions over the past week, its making me want to move to a country with a bit more diversity. Finding this out has me not so anxious. Everyone needs some common ground don't you think?

Also, thanks for the info on the healers!

Hello all

“It is not just Christians who believe Christ will be reborn. So do Muslims, who also believe Christ was mortal, a prophet no doubt, but also just a man”.
I totally agree with your statement;

One of the fundamental requirement to be in the fold of Islam is to believe in All Prophets of Allah, including Jesus(Peace be upon him), who was born to virgin Mary/ Maryam (Peace be upon her)without any father. She was given the glad tidings of a son by Archangel-Gariel/Jibraeel (peace be upon him).

This is in the Quran as follows:
[4.171,Koran] "O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Jesus son of Mariam is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Mariam and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector."

For 'Reincarnation', a person must have been dead to come alive as a soul in another physical being..But the Holy scriptures like the book of Jews and the Quran have informed that Jesus (pbuh) hasn't died a natural death and so Jews and Muslims await his second coming...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en … _FbUxbv7TYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnBorQEU … re=related

According to Quran, [4.157,Koran] "And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Jesus) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure."

Mohammad(pbuh) prophesied Jesus to descend in Damascus near the eastern white minaret with the help of two angels. Note that Paul started Christianity in Damascus, and Jesus will set right what Paul set wrong!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxD2900pDQc

Regards,
Rehana

Very interesting thanks!!!
Eid Mubarak

Eid Mubarak.

There are certainly Reiki practitioners in Amman, some of them quite well known e.g. Rana Al Shawa.

Eid Mubarak to all the forum users who are celebrating Eid today.
Rehana

Just saw this posting while surfing:

I think what you are asking for is: Healing though Du'a and Quran. Yes, it does exist in Islam. You can learn these Do'a and be your own healer. like touching the site that hurt and read Quran ( Alfateha).

Do'a also by itself is a healing mechanism. A study showed that people in ICU who they were prayed for did better than people who did not!!! Not sure how strong is this study, but I believe in prayer healing power even if the study was negative.

Finally, there are people who we used to think are "closer" to Allah, Wallahu A'lam. But Allah said, "ask me and I'll give you." it cannot get simpler than this.

Hello
The best thing is to do all the du`a ur self and not ask some1 else
just learn them and do them ur self..
قال الله تعالى : أَمَّن يُجِيبُ الْمُضْطَرَّ إِذَا دَعَاهُ وَيَكْشِفُ السُّوءَ
ur the want to make the du`a not some1 else