Potential Catastrophic Situation!

Hi mrcat2,

Calm down, take a deep breath and count to ten..... not a catastrophic situation at all.

You are overblowing the problem of excessive bureaucracy here in Brazil in your own mind. While bureaucracy is extreme it is not going to cause a catastrophy for you by any means.

All of the documents you have are in order and once you submit them all this will get sorted out properly despite the name that you indicated way back when..... on your student visa.

What matters is only your present application. Your newly issued Brazilian documents that show "filiação" will show your father's complete name and your mother's complete maiden name, that's the way they do it.

To understand really how simple it is resolved you need only look at a Brazilian's RG (Registro Geral). On any RG they show the parents' names and also they show the document upon which they rely for all the information on the RG. that will be either CN and a number series or CC plus a number series. CN is the Certidão de Nascimento or CC is Certidão de Casamento. Those are the only two documents that matter on an RG. The same applies for your CIE. The only difference is that on your CIE they will not indicate the source document, they will use one of those documents for the information, but both have your mother's maiden name......... end of problem.

Cheers,
William James Woodward - Brazil Animator, Expat-blog Team

James, you are a blessing for those of us out here that do not have such a clear vision of Brazilian realities!

Cheers, Douglas

Thanks James.  I am more calm now. 

The trauma comes from my first student visa, which led to chaos at the Policia Federal when I went to register.

I had a student visa that was valid for 2 years but I needed to extend it after the first 18 months.  (The school program lasted approx. 20 months in total).

What was written on the visa itself:  Visto válido por 02 anos.  Prazo de estada 18 meses.

This led to so many problems, it was insane.  They couldn't figure out which duration was correct and I went on a 9 months goose chase only finally being able to register there a day before the visa expired.   


Anyway, thanks for the help and will update you on how this goes.

Hi Douglas my friend, and mrcat2

I guess my sphere of knowledge really comes from my eleven year struggle with the insane bureaucracy here.

Believe it or not; even after eleven years here, being in a long-term relationship with a wonderful Brazilian woman and having a Brazilian son as a result, I'm still not at the end of the nightmarish permanency process. The Federal Police couldn't even give me a prediction of when there will be a final decision even after three years there is no light at the end of the tunnel. All this because of certain complicating factors in my case.

I've finally received my RNE and Carteira de Identidade Estrangeiro, but rather than coming back to me as PERMANENTE as I had fully expected it came back as only being PROVISÓRIO and is only valid to May 2013. Hopefully between now and then there might be some further developments. Who knows?

I find it absolutely mind boggling that while my son, who has never set foot on Canadian soil became a Canadian citizen automatically at birth by virtue of having a Canadian parent; while his father is fighting an endless battle with the Brazilian immigration system just to obtain the right to remain here in this country. God, I wouldn't want to even try and imagine how much more difficult it would be if I was seeking Brazilian citizenship.

It's no wonder why there are so many illegal immigrants in this country when the government makes it virtually impossible to do things the right and legal way.

Cheers,
William James Woodward - Brazil Animator, Expat-blog Team