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The sad state of safe food in Vietnam

Last activity 31 December 2012 by Wild_1

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Anatta

As long time readers in this forum know, I have long emphasized on buying safe food.

Yesterday’s report from the official channel has only confirmed my previous warnings.


Link in Vietnamese (titled: When can we eat safe vegetables?)

http://laodong.com.vn/Lao-dong-cuoi-tua … /97402.bld

Key summaries:

40 000 cases of food poisoning/year. Fresh food, including vegetables is considered source having highest danger of contamination, in particular dangerous chemicals and bacteria.

From a recent sample, 51% of vegetables have excessive chemicals and heavy metals. Excessive NO3 found in 47% of samples.

Most vegetables and fruit come from unknown sources. A majority of vegetables and fruits comes from China (note: known for containing dangerous chemicals) even in Saigon.  Even in wholesaler markets: food from China is >15%. In retailer’s markets, 30-40%+ of fruits and vegetables come from China.

Food with VietGap certification (Vietnamese food standard) has only 10-15% of market share in Saigon. One manager said “We brought VietGAP vegetables to BigC, but they said they don’t buy VietGAP vegetables. Other companies (stores) buy only 10kg/day…”

Wild_1

Anatta,

When is any food ever safe???  The day that you were born...  Was that the beginning of life, or was it the start of death? 

A some-what-wise one, once said, "Just roll with the punches..."  You forgot about it, huh???

Anatta

Wild_1 wrote:

"Just roll with the punches..."


while you are beaten by a mob?? No chance in hell!

Wild_1

Shut up, Anatta!  You just want to prolong your own suffering...  Why can't you be like me, and make Budman, Saigonmonkey or Ashard, suffer?

Dude, those guys ate and drank whatever and whenever they wanted...  Such Satans, or Glutons...

Budman1

Wild_1 wrote:

Shut up, Anatta!  You just want to prolong your own suffering...  Why can't you be like me, and make Budman, Saigonmonkey or Asharf, suffer?

Dude, those guys ate and drank whatever and whenever they wanted...  Such Satans, or Glutons...


Ya right Howie, that's why I spent over a week at the hospital in Can Tho......

Anatta

Don't be fooled by the beer bottles and beautiful ladies they try to impress you when they have a chance to escape the wives (if ever). Their beer bottles all have holes and the ladies... I think I'd stop here :(.

Jaitch

One good thing about rising prices in the agricultural business is that they result in reduced use of fertilisers and insecticides.

The article highlights the inability to track sources. Late last year and earlier this year I spent a lot of time hanging around the wholesale food markets Binh Dien, Hoc Mon and Thu Duc here in TP HCM. Two of us, it's not too smart for a Foreigner to go alone to these places, used to turn up at an un-Godly hour in the middle of the night waiting for the buyers to arrive.

Most were Vietnamese although there were a smattering of Foreigners from some up-scale hotels. I noted they made a selection and immediately had the produce moved wither a 'quarantine' area or onto to their trucks.

We identified major players such as from the supermarkets, etc. and particularly the 'organic' stores - as these shouldn't even shop here.

The wholesalers are a very co-operative crowd. When a buyer makes a choice and the wholesaler doesn't have sufficient materials, he radios to his buddy/helper who gets supplies from another vendor then they are wheeled around to the seller so it appears that the goods came from their store room.

I had never seen 'root' plants being grown on rafts floating in rivers before I came to VN. The Dong Nai River has been seriously polluted for years yet for years rafts of vegetables have been growing in mid-stream only to be shipped south to TP HCM. This is how 'heavy metals' enter the food stream.

TP HCM has been aggressively trying to stop bad food from getting to the stores. An article < http://www.saigon-gpdaily.com.vn/Nation … /6/101749/ > describes what they have been doing. Likely we wouldn't want to know what is happening north of Nha Trang including Ha Noi!

Even though there are inspections, both prior to and upon arrival at the wholesale markets, many of the local cho get their supplies direct from farmers avoiding the inspectors. The same happens at certain chain supermarkets.

Even if consumers are prepared to pay over the average for GOOD food, they can never be sure if it is better quality or just a source of extra profit for retailers.

Personally I think the 40,000 cases of food poisoning annually are way under reported in this city of around 10,000,000 people.

The bottom line is you can't trust any claims when it comes to food and where it is grown, in VietNam.

Anatta

Nope, 40,000 cases are for the entire nation of nearly 90 millions!!!

That says even more about the trustworthiness of the numbers. Even with it, the case is bad enough!!. If "51% of vegetables have excessive chemicals and heavy metals" is under-reporting, one has to wonder what the real number is "100%???!". It makes me laugh whenever I see ridiculous statistics with 2, sometime 3 digits after the comma, like "3.94% of the cases", "improvement of 11.53%", or "won with 96.86% of the votes" in the state newspapers.

Wild_1

Anatta, you fool, don't let death keep you from living. 

If you get to do or don't as you please, so what if you go a little early?

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