Horrified by the air quality

Gozomo, can you specify who you are exactly? This not a "topic from five years ago". This is a very current topic! If this discussion was so obsolete, why is it still on line? Air quality has worsened in Malta. It becomes an increasingly important issue. Maybe that you disagree with the content of my posts?

ShereKhan8 wrote:

Gozomo, can you specify who you are exactly? This not a "topic from five years ago". This is a very current topic! If this discussion was so obsolete, why is it still on line? Air quality has worsened in Malta. It becomes an increasingly important issue. Maybe that you disagree with the content of my posts?

This a topic which was started by others 5 years ago and the last post was 2013 so it is very definitely from 5 years ago and many of the original members are no longer on the Maltese Islands. It may be a current topic elsewhere on this and other forum but not the one you posted on!

You may also note that it has not been removed because all topics remain unless decided otherwise by Admin because of subject or content.

Please note this is a 'Forum' not a 'Blog'!

Also GozoMo is one of the 'Expat Team' and the Malta Expert.

Ray

ShereKhan8 wrote:

Gozomo, can you specify who you are exactly? This not a "topic from five years ago". This is a very current topic! If this discussion was so obsolete, why is it still on line? Air quality has worsened in Malta. It becomes an increasingly important issue. Maybe that you disagree with the content of my posts?

I do not have to specify to you who I am, this topic is from five years ago try looking at the dates.

ok F0xgl0ve perhaps that some participants are still on the site and will receive the updates. If you leave the discussions online some people may browse and find them out. This is the way I found your forum. I urge you to continue debating this important topic. Good luck.

The air quality in Malta is topical - Please see the following reportage - ‘Cruise liner fumes reach 'unbelievably high' levels - Air pollution expert records readings 50x higher than expected in Grand Harbour - The Sunday Times of Malta, 1st July, 2018:

https://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/v … ion.683195

ShereKhan8 wrote:

Gozomo, can you specify who you are exactly? This not a "topic from five years ago". This is a very current topic! If this discussion was so obsolete, why is it still on line? Air quality has worsened in Malta. It becomes an increasingly important issue. Maybe that you disagree with the content of my posts?

What happened 5 years ago is not now, so figures here are out of date. Gozomo was correct in saying instead of digging up an old post, it would have been better to have started a new thread.

SimCityAT
Expat Team

SimCityAT wrote:

ShereKhan8 wrote:

Gozomo, can you specify who you are exactly? This not a "topic from five years ago". This is a very current topic! If this discussion was so obsolete, why is it still on line? Air quality has worsened in Malta. It becomes an increasingly important issue. Maybe that you disagree with the content of my posts?

What happened 5 years ago is not now, so figures here are out of date. Gozomo was correct in saying instead of digging up an old post, it would have been better to have started a new thread.

SimCityAT
Expat Team

On the contrary, please see: https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.p … =2#4294939

SimCityAT, banning me because I disagree with you is intolerant behavior. For all that I did not infringe any rule of this forum. I tell you that the data is still mostly accurate, and can be updated now easily.

ShereKhan8 wrote:

SimCityAT, banning me because I disagree with you is intolerant behavior. For all that I did not infringe any rule of this forum. I tell you that the data is still mostly accurate, and can be updated now easily.

Banning any member can only occur if they have breached the Forum T&C's and in SimCity's case, like me, while we can report individuals and temporarily ban them, this has to be confirmed by one of our Moderators.

If you feel you need to bring your grievance to the attention of one of Moderators, it's quite simple, just click on the "Report" button (top tight of the comment) and you get the chance to detail your complaint and it will go straight to a Moderator who will decide whether somebody has been intolerant of you or your opinion.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team

Thank you Cynic.

I live in Bugibba, it is windy almost all year not feeling any kind of polution here.

Istvan, Buggiba is windy in winter, There is high traffic in the main street. Air pollution has been well documented and measured in Malta, as well as the high rate of respiratory diseases.

What i want to say is i got asthma, and i feel apsolutely no problems. Its not "windy in winter" i live here if you chek there was wind from 15-30 km/h few days short of 7 months straight. On that side we just got 4 days of wind arou d 20-30km/h today is  35km/h , from tommorow will be a bit calmer.

It amazes me how people come to live in Malta and all they do is complain about the place.

I understand you, as you came to live here and do not want to be disappointed, so you need to value the place. My case is different, as I have lived 9 years in Malta and am going to leave. Enough is enough! In 10 years, Malta as changed a lot: more people, higher prices, lesser quality of life. This has got to be known by people abroad who hope for a better future in Malta.

ShereKhan8 wrote:

I understand you, as you came to live here and do not want to be disappointed, so you need to value the place. My case is different, as I have lived 9 years in Malta and am going to leave. Enough is enough! In 10 years, Malta as changed a lot: more people, higher prices, lesser quality of life. This has got to be known by people abroad who hope for a better future in Malta.

Actually I have lived here for over five years and would not want to leave Gozo, just because you are not happy doesn’t mean everyone else feels the same, living here on Gozo is  a far better life
then we had in the UK.

ShereKhan8 wrote:

I understand you, as you came to live here and do not want to be disappointed, so you need to value the place. My case is different, as I have lived 9 years in Malta and am going to leave. Enough is enough! In 10 years, Malta as changed a lot: more people, higher prices, lesser quality of life. This has got to be known by people abroad who hope for a better future in Malta.

If you have lived here for ten years then you can't have been too bothered by air pollution if it has taken till now to decide to leave and to start posting on here about it!

Ray

FoxGlovem, There are many factors in the decision to live in a place or leave it, not only the air quality. I was living in a rather protected area in the first years. I undertook several actions for the environment in the meantime - with rather reluctant welcome from the locals.

GoMo, I do not know what life you had in the UK. Our subject is air quality. I maintain that Malta is not sustainable, on the mid-term.

ShereKhan8 wrote:

GoMo, I do not know what life you had in the UK. Our subject is air quality. I maintain that Malta is not sustainable, on the mid-term.

You've said so, repeatedly.  At this point continuing to rant about the air and how you're leaving because of it is not helping other forum members - which is the objective of this forum.

Istvan, where I am there was very little wind this summer, we start to have some for a couple of days in this end of August. If you have got asthma, it does seem to be a problem? I am happy for you if it does not deteriorate. There are reports that asthma and other respiratory diseases are very high in Malta. depending on the location and the season.

Volcane, I am just replying to some assertions from some forum members. If you want to contribute to the real debate please submit some objective information about the issue at stake.

ShereKhan8 wrote:

Volcane, I am just replying to some assertions from some forum members. If you want to contribute to the real debate please submit some objective information about the issue at stake.

You are not the only one allowed to comment on here even though you think your opinion is always the right one.

Professor Alfred J. Vella has called for quotas on certain chemicals used for the manufacture of fireworks.He also co-authored a scientific study of the effect of fireworks on air quality in Malta which indicates that, "festa firework displays contribute significantly and for a prolonged period every year to airborne dust in Malta where PM10 is an intractable air quality concern." Chemist Alfred Vella, who had chaired the inquiry board, reiterated the calls for quotas on the amount of perchlorate distributed to be introduced. "We're setting off a disproportionate number of fireworks in too short a period of time," Prof. Vella warned. He cited a 2009 study that had found atmospheric levels of perchlorate 15 times higher in August - the height of the festive season - than in December.

Renato Camilleri, Alfred J. Vella, "Effect of Fireworks on ambient air quality in Malta" in Atmospheric Environment 44 (2010) 4521-4527.

Air quality is indeed deteriorating. In some towns it might be just still fine - seaside towns like Xghajra for example - but in many other places is each day worst. Well, if everyday there is 47 more cars on the Maltese roads, one can only make maths and calculations.

I live now in Hamrun and can only really cycle on Sundays, all the other days are too busy to get out of the contamination in a decent amount of time. And the same could be said for most of the center-south.

I mean, now even towns like Zabbar are quite congested on a weekday, something that didn't happen before.

Of course, nothing will be done about it, except chopping a few more trees to widen more the roads so more cars can come in and then we'll need more roads, etc, etc.