long term visa procedures

Hello Bsasidharan,

Welcome to Expat.com !

Please feel free to read the article > Indonesia visa info.
You can also visit the the Indonesian forum and have a look at the different discussions there. It will surely help you.

Thank you,
Pravin.

If your company based in India is already involved in a project here in Indonesia then one would assume that your company has already established a business entity/partnership, likely a PMA here in Indonesia.  If that’s the case then the PMA would sponsor temporary residence visas for those engineers (and their families if that’s the case) as well as obtaining work permits through the appropriate manpower office.

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I need a  visa that is good for a year or at least a 3 months extension from Aug. I now have a three months visa V6A026328 until 21 May 2013. I have the one month extension and can get 3 more June, July, August 21. Then my 6 months from February 22 is up.
The deal on VISA and Indonesia you  have a limit of six months unless you get a extended stay permit.
And it is very hard to get the application for longer stays.
My six months ends in August then I have to leave and come back = a three ticket trip
1. ticket to Singapore and
2. back to Bali
3.then from Bali back to Singapore because you must have a ticket out to come in.
4.    The cost of moving to Thailand is far less
5.    AirAsia
CONFIRMED
Booking number : ZC7DXG
Total paid: 1,171,000.00 IDR

1,171,000.00 IDRDPS (DPS)
Bali (DPS)
22 Aug 2013, 1200 (12:00 PM)
DMK (DMK)
Bangkok – Don Mueang (DMK)
22 Aug 2013, 1515 (3:15 PM)

For extended stay:
Please submit the requested documentation as previously mentioned on the last email, which are:

1. Scan copy of your valid passport;
2. Softcopy of your recent photograph;
3. The residence contract made between you and the residence owner, that states you're renting the house & paid $1.000 a month as you described.
4. Divorce paperwork or divorce decree

In the meantime, please send us copy of your photograph & valid passport so we may check your current permit within the immigration headquarter.

Case Style:     MARY ANNE WATKINS PFLAUM v. PETER EDWARD PFLAUM
Case Number:     2012 12314 FMDL    Category:     Dissolution of Marriage
Case Type:     Family Law    Filing Date:     08/09/2012
Case Status:     Closed    Related Cases:     NO

Venue Information - 04 - Matthew M. Foxman
Processing Location:     DeLand    Court Location:     DeLand

Disposition Information - Disposed By Judge
Disposition Date:    12/10/2012    Jury Trial:     NO
Appealed:     NO    Contested:     NO
UCN:    642012DR012314XXXXDL

​My name is Peter Edward Pflaum, born October 31, 1936 in Barcelona Spain of American parents. My passport number is 468250524 issued by the Department of State in Washington DC on 28 March 2010 and expires on 27 March 2020.

1.    The applicant is aged 55 years old or more;done 77
2.    Possessing a valid passport;done
3.    Latest photograph;done
4.    Curriculum vitae;done
5.    Finance statement from a nominated pension foundations or similar, which basically states that the applicant is financially steady and can reside in Indonesia with his or her on funding. The applicant is also required to own the sum of US$ 18.000 on his banking account or equal to US$ 1.500 monthly;yes $2,000
6.    Medical statement from a nominated life insurance company; w
7.    An accommodation statement, proven and issued by the applicant checking account;done
8.    A written statement made by the applicant regarding his intention to hire an Indonesian house-maid or a nurse care during his stay in Indonesia;can do
9.    A sponsorship letter; have in the immigration office in Singaraja

I want:
​Kartu Izin Tinggal Terbatas or Temporary Residency Permit - KITAS: valid for  one year. A KITAS Visa is the most common visa for foreign residents and requires an Indonesian sponsor. Valid for five years in total, it is first valid for one year and must subsequently be extended every 12 months.
or
The Limited Stay Visa is a single entry visa for a visit that is related to work and to other purposes such as investment, research, family unification, performance, sport, social activities, retired/senior citizen, etc. The Limited Stay Visa will be granted upon authorization from the Indonesian Immigration in Indonesia.​

I am 77 years old a retired professor with a BA from University of Chicago, EdM from Harvard and PhD in government from Florida State University. I was divorced in December 2012 after 30 years of marriage and have a settlement of $1200 a month on common property (a $500,000 house in New Smyrna Beach Florida) and Social Security of $800 so a income of about $2,000 to live on and decided on Bali.

I came to Bali January 17 VOA for 30 days then I went to Singapore February 17 and returned on Feb 22 with a 60 day visa.
Now I have gone to the immigration office in Singaraja
· Passport with visa 2A125P2030-M V6A026328 211/60 DAYS until May 21 2013 issued in Singapore

l Hold a passport valid at least six months on entry with one blank visa page
l Hold proof of sufficient funds –  bank statement
l Hold proof of onward/return flights

I have a sponsor Bobby Artana at
Villas Amed Bobby Artana (Bobby's Villas) bobbyartana@yahoo.com
Bali Jl. Raya Amed, Karangasem, 80361 Indosesia
in Amed Beach Jemeluk

For 20 Aug 2013,  The cost of moving to Thailand or Vietnam is less than the cost for agent and expenses plus endless paper work in Indonesia.

overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/tag/kitas/

" Indonesia’s immigration policies are based on outdated laws originally designed to protect Indonesia’s  workers from job-stealing foreigners. In today’s reality, the immigration system has been distorted into  a cash cow for those that manage it.
The real cost of this inability of the nation’s civil service to reform itself is seen in the nation’s  weak economic performance, by the lack of confidence of business to invest in wealth producing  industries – of which the ailing tourism sector is only one.
While today’s immigration rules cost the nation billions of dollars in lost business, our near neighbors  earn cash windfalls from unwitting (and unwilling) visa-run tourists.”

The tour of Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia which was a look for alternatives may becomes an interesting  tourist trip August 20 to September 20.

After a 2 months visa from Singapore then I got a one month extension with three trips to the immigration  office until May 21st.
1.    one trip to get papers and file and get your picture taken and finger prints taken
2.    second trip to pay $25 fee
3.    three to get stamp and passport back.

I got the 60 day visa in Singapore from Feb 22, I got a month until May 21, then Gede does it again for June 21, and  again until July 21 and again to August 20 the trip cost $30 and the fee of $25: = $25 x 4 = $100 plus 16 trips at $30 each = $480 = $580 not including three flights Bali to Singapore, and back and out again you have to have a ticket out to  come in, with costs = $1000.

A social six months visa:

With Bobby's help and help from his agent in Singapore I can maybe get a six month social visa for about  $160 plus costs;

​Company Name:   
MAJU TRAVEL SERVICE PTE LTD
Address:   
60 Eu Tong Sen Street #01-16 Furama Hotel Shopping Centre Singapore 059804
Telephone:   
(65) 6533 1666 Fax: (65) 6535 6222
Contact: MR GAN
or
Address: Platinum Express Travel
7500A Beach Road
#09-313 The Plaza
Singapore 199591

A social six months visa:
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HANA EXPRESS
163 Tras Street, #10-06 Lian Huat Building,
Singapore 079024

Tel: 65 - 6221 2181
Fax: 65 - 6344 6912, 6224 2975
Mobile: 65 - 9654 0870

General Enquiries: shohib@starhub.net.sg
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INDONESIA’S IMMIGRATION RULES HOLD BACK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
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By Evan Jones

It is unfortunate that the Von Heydebreck-Stricker family’s unhappy experience with Padang Immigration last month (JP 21 Jan 2008 – where they were forced into pay Rp1.6 million in questionable overstay fines), is an incident that happens all too often.

Indonesia’s immigration policies are based on outdated laws originally designed to protect Indonesia’s workers from job-stealing foreigners. In today’s reality, the immigration system has been distorted into a cash cow for those that manage it.

The real cost of this inability of the nation’s civil service to reform itself is seen in the nation’s weak economic performance, by the lack of confidence of business to invest in wealth producing industries – of which the ailing tourism sector is only one.

While today’s immigration rules cost the nation billions of dollars in lost business, our near neighbours earn cash windfalls from unwitting (and unwilling) visa-run tourists.

For example, every foreigner’s application for a KITAS (Resident Stay Permit) must be made at an Indonesian Embassy outside the country. So scores of foreigners board daily flights to Singapore and Kuala Lumpur to apply for, or to renew their visas.

To avoid days standing in consulate queues, many prefer to use local “visa brokers” whose inside embassy contacts speed up the multi day process.

How big is this business? Take Mr Tan, whose Singapore agency has made a handsome living off this archaic visa process for over 35 years. He started back in the early 70's, at a folding table outside the old Indonesian Embassy on Orchard Road. Nowadays, his sleek office has a
staff of seven, he drives a new Mercedes, he has a country house in Australia and his lucrative business enabled him educate his children at British universities. Multiply Mr Tan by several dozen and you get an idea of how big this business is.

The opportunities to gouge cash from immigration “services” reaches all the way to Ambassadorial level. Former Indonesian ambassador to Malaysia Hadi A. Wajarabi is facing accusations that he misappropriated a whopping USD2.6 million in visa fees during his term
in Kuala Lumpur.

But a few million dollars in embezzled visa fee revenues misses a larger point. Hard-to-comply-with visa regulations have prevented entire industries from setting up shop in Indonesia.

A classic example exists in ship repair, where global shipyards have set up branch yards in Indonesia, a competitive place to carry out low value metal bashing. But the big ticket value of a modern ship is in the machinery and electronics. This business stays in Singapore and
Malaysia because the cost (and risk of arbitrary arrest) of mobilising specialist foreign technicians within Indonesia is not worth the trouble.

While it is hard to measure lost opportunities in industry, we can more easily see the losses caused by the 2004 Visa On Arrival rules. Of the 40 million tourists who visit Asean each year, a mere 5 million visit Indonesia. Tuk Tuk Lake Toba, for example, is now a ghost town. A dozen world class golf courses in Batam and Bintan struggle to stay solvent as pre 2003 annual arrivals of 1.6 million lie stagnant at under 900,000.

One can measure a country’s level of development by the ease with which it’s residents can understand and comply with government regulations. Indeed, there is a trend is for governments everywhere to improve public service standards – for government departments to
(publicly) benchmark their own service performance.

But Indonesia’s immigration rules are moving in the opposite direction. There are more and more rules and the newest regulations are even harder to understand and comply with, than the old ones. The Von Heydebreck-Stricker family’s recent experience is an example of this trend.

In the past decade, the many calls to reform Immigration’s antiquated rules were sidetracked by vested interests who don’t want to see the Department of Justice and Human Rights lose this cash-bearing Immigration cow.

Mr. Sofyan Wanandi, head of the Indonesian Business Association, explained the difficulty of implementing reform at last week’s APEC Business Advisory Council (ABAC) APEC meeting. “Too many sectorial interests, including civil servants with unclear motives, obstruct efforts,” he explained.

Sofyan thinks the solution to reform lies in giving the reform job to well paid highly professional talent and keeping it away from the hands of bureaucrats.

Ten years ago the term “reformasi” was a popular catchcry. Could a review of how well today’s Indonesia’s civil service serves it’s public, explain why the word has fallen into disuse?

_____
Evan Jones is an Australian business analyst, 30 years in SE Asia.

Company Name:
MAJU TRAVEL SERVICE PTE LTD
Address:
60 Eu Tong Sen Street #01-16 Furama Hotel Shopping Centre Singapore 059804
Telephone:
Fax: (65) 6535 6222
Contact: MR GAN

or

Address: Platinum Express Travel
7500A Beach Road
#09-313 The Plaza
Singapore 199591

or

HANA EXPRESS
163 Tras Street, #10-06 Lian Huat Building,
Singapore 079024

Tel: 65 - 6221 2181
Fax: 65 - 6344 6912, 6224 2975
Mobile: 65 - 9654 0870

General Enquiries: shohib@starhub.net.sg

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Born,in Barcelona 1936 Baby born under bombs said the papers because my father Irving was chief of UPI in Madrid. Travel in Europe 1959 - 1965 London Amerstdam then Puerto Rico 1965 - 1967, My parents lived in Javea Spain from 1969 to 2004 - Villa Windfall.  One daughter Sara a DVM in Inverness Scotland specialist with fish farms. Son in Miami in finance of energy for utilities, daughter in Newcastle UK, two children in NYC who travel extensivly. Mother Melanie published 1 dozen travel novels.

I have a small pension and want to find a nice place I can afford to live.
I left the country (USA) Jan 15 2013 for Bali,  I am 77,   recently divorced, a retired professor. I have been 30 years   in New Smyrna Beach FL with my now X-wife in a $500,000 house I paid for thus have a settlement. I have good character: a professor at leading universities with degrees from the University of Chicago (BA), Harvard (Ed M), FSU (PhD). I have been a high level federal employee   with security clearances.

Nice web sites, these are my work on where Home: AWAY FROM HOME

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Dr. Peter E. Pflaum, GlobalVillages
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Villas Amed (Bobby's Villas) bobbyartana@yahoo.com
Bali Jl. Raya Amed, Karangasem, 80361 Indonesia
in Amed Beach Jemeluk
For more information please contact the
owner Bobby Artana
Telephone: +62(0)36323471
Hp: +62(0)81338430009
E-Mail for booking:     bobbyartana@yahoo.com

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I have a small pension and want to find a nice place I can afford to live.
I left the country (USA) Jan 15 2013 for Bali,  I am 77,   recently divorced, a retired professor. I have been 30 years   in New Smyrna Beach FL with my now X-wife in a $500,000 house I paid for thus have a settlement. I have good character: a professor at leading universities with degrees from the University of Chicago (BA), Harvard (Ed M), FSU (PhD).
Interesting Blog:
travelblogs.mapquest.com/mojones/mojos-super-happy-fun-time-australia-slash-se-asia-edition/amed-bali

Peter, why is it that your post, or variations of it are the only thing you post over and over on this forum? 

It’s been suggested to you that you pursue a retirement visa which is essentially the same as a five year KITAS.  You certainly meet all the requirements for a retirement visa, so, is there some reason you keep ignoring the advice to look into it?

Pravin, with no offense intended, a much better source of up to date visa information for Indonesia on the net can be found here:

expat.or.id/info/docs.html