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Last activity 21 August 2022 by Nnice Rythm

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moeabdelaziz

Is that real?!!

BrokenHeartNYC

I had to write on this blog simply because.....

Back in March I  met and fell in love with an Egyptian man...It was very unexpected.
He was perfect, a gentlemen, handsome, sweet, deep in thought, intelligent. Soul-mates as he called it.
He was visiting and I met him a week before he was leaving for work again over sees. It was like a movie.
Long story short... we kept in touch for 4 months and he said the most wonderful things to me...
We said we would remain "friends" because we didn't know what the future held being
his work situation and not living in the States.... But I knew our connection was more.
It was pretty magical....
UNTIL.. a few weeks ago, I got a message from his WIFE!!!!
Apparently she looked through his phone and found a prior conversation of ours and reached out to me.
She was actually very nice and we talked for a bit. I was very honest with her because
we both didn't know we existed and we both felt bad for each other. I had asked him so many times
if he was married and he always said no, or he WAS married. Now, because I am an understanding person
I was like ok... maybe we really did have a connection, and he didn't know what to do about it because
maybe his life situation in Egypt wasn't the greatest, or maybe he was in a minor mid life crisis- confused
about what to do with a woman he has known for 12 years, versus meeting someone like me who was different.
I was trying to show compassion because we really don't know where people's mind states are.
What is real and what is not...
In any case... what bothered me the most was- after his wife and I spoke.. she told him about our conversation
and he told her I was a liar. She said she knows HE is lying because she can tell by the content of our conversation that we couldn't be just friends like he stated. She even knew by the things I said he said to me, she said he would say the same things to her. If anything I feel bad for her....I feel so stupid- I am not delusional, I know what happened between us and over 150 emails of content I can't make up. It was pretty surreal. Regardless if we had a connection I could never trust him so regardless I have to move on.. It just hurts.  A small part of me wishes he would just write to apologize and say something.. anything... so I can feel some kind of closure. I guess I wonder if it was real... or if he was just a really clever guy. I guess I will never know. Oh well... I would still love to visit Egypt though and know not to judge all people based on that one experience. However, when I told my friends that I was seeing him... they ALL warned me and told me that Egyptian men are liars and con artists. But I will keep good faith for all people, as I am intelligent to know there are good and bad people all over the world...

ElaineCrawley

FIND A GOOD LAWYER - YOU CAN JUST PHONE

Hello    I feel so sorry for you: your distress is obvious. I am going through similar distress with my Egyptian 'husband' (we only had orfi 'marriage of convenience' in a lawyers office in Luxor, not a legal marriage in Cairo). Something sounds not right with what your husband says and does.  Our friend spiritstallion who messaged you is right: find a cheap but good lawyer to give you advice. I don't know if it helps, but you can phone an Egyptian lawyer who speaks English via the British Embassy in Cairo website. The link is https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati … of-lawyers    Look for one who specialises in family law: I phoned one of the lawyers on the list myself and he was very helpful.
I wish you much luck.
Take care
Elaine

ElaineCrawley

YOU ARE RIGHT - NOT CARRYING ID IS STRANGE

Hello. It is very odd that he said he did not have his ID with him. I think that every Egyptian man always carries his ID in Egypt in case he is stopped by the police for any reason. Surely he would be unlikely to leave it behind when coming to the UK?!!??

ElaineCrawley

GO TO EGYPT AND SEE FOR YOURSELF

Hi Corina.  Our sister Karnak is right. Go out there, confront the wife and tell her who you are. You will of course need to take a friend who speaks fluent Arabic (maybe someone from this site who lives in Egypt). As you will already know, a lot of misunderstandings can occur if there is a language barrier. 
Good luck Corina; I really hope you can sort this situation out and be happy again.
Elaine

chepkel

This is a very good suggestion

meems74

I'm not surprised by this story at all. welcome to the world of "Egyptian men". dump him like the piece of trash that he is. he's a liar, he's probably still married to her Islamically and that's why it was legal for him to marry you. No honest woman would sit in front her ex-husband with her nighty. No respectable man would allow himself to sit in a room with his ex-wife dressed in her nighty. He's most likely using you for the British Citizenship. Dump him as soon as possible. This has "trouble" written all over it. By the way, this is VERY typical of Egyptian men. it's like they use the same handbook.

Puertorican queen

These stories are heartbreaking, to all Egyptian men: how dare you destroy women lives for your own interest.. we foreign women are human beings and our lives and time are at stake.. you selfish pigs!! And to Egyptian women sending your pig husbands to get legal immigration status.. you're no better than a pimp.. you're pimping your husbands for a "better life".. you're disgusting

Puertorican queen

If you really fear God stay away from using foreign women for your own interest and convenience.. God will judge for it

Puertorican queen

I'm married to a divorced Egyptian man with a son.. everything seems real but something keeps not clicking the more I think about it.. when I first met him it seemed like he was still talking to his exwife.. the night gown incident seems familiar to me as I once came home and found him talking to her on Skype and she had a sexy night gown on.. I used to notice a lot of text messages coming in and asked him about it.. he said it was his mother but I didn't buy his lie so I had someone translate the messages for me and my suspicion was confirmed.. lots of text messages from his ex.. they seemed like love messages.. one message he told her he loved her and his son.. time passed and he told me that he love me and we got married.. it's been five years and have taken two trips to Egypt to meet his family.. everything seems fine but I always ask myself how could he have been divorced but still romantically talking to her then shift and say he love me.. I used to argue with him and tried to detach from him but he always followed me.. last year we traveled to Egypt and vacationed in Luxor.. he excused himself and went to drink his tea on the roof.. I quietly went up there and found him talking to her.. he said he was talking about his son.. he got his green card and is now rushing to get his citizenship.. he had a quarrel with a former close friend of his and that former friend sent me a message warning me that he would divorce me after the American citizenship and that the divorce document he presented was fake and that the real one was two years later.. I thought he just told me this because they had quarreled but I'm so confused.. I have given six years of my life to this man.. work so hard to maintain a living with him..

Puertorican queen

The wife is probably fully aware.. they all are.. they don't mind to send their husbands to prostitute themselves to get the documents.. and then they think the husband is gonna bring them to the new country.. pieces of trash

Puertorican queen

Egyptian men.. be careful to mess with Hispanic woman.. we don't play around.. when a man do us wrong things can get very ugly for the man.. and the wife in Egypt.. we can make your life hell

heba7400

I dont know what to say . but you need to be strong to face this person. we all human beings hate anybody useing us. i feel your heart is in a deep broken so Iam supporting you from all of my heart.
Takecare dear

Rare Beauty

Dear..I am so touched by your story..that I registered to reply.

Let me clarify some points.
1- He can return to his wife as you can divorce and return back for 3 times but after the third they can't ..unless a big scenario of marrying another man*real marriage* then divorced then they return back....*Only 1 kind of divorce is with no return and I dont believe this is the case...he is keeping his family*

2-If she was pregnant when he divorced her and get back to know that after marrying you...I think the divorce is not considered because he was notified of the child and he can withdraw after acknowledgment.

3-No lady stays with a man in night clothes..It is so obvious they have a wife_husband relationship...

She got him back once you got married because she was pregnant and maybe she did not believe he will really go for you...but apparently they are having their marriage back as a family.

4-He will never tell you the truth .he is happy having 2 women life and a family and he is positive you will never know the truth in his homecountry..moreover this laptop mistake was a gift from Allah to know the truth and where you stand...maybe he left it bec he dont want his wife to see his relation with you but he was shocked that you explore his laptop..while he was totally happy for years keeping both of you and knowing you believe that you are only his queen.


Finally...he can be married to her ...and having a wife_husband relation ship...new borned baby...night clothes..travel each 5 months...

Take care of yourself..Think wise...and partial truth is shown up...you can reveal it all..and decide what you really want .

Lies don't live forever....I am really sorry for your broken heart and living in a lie..

Wish you know the proper information from lawyer,embassy,court,religion man...and your life to be lightened with truth....You deserve that..You took him divorced and for you only.

Regards,

Ayysa

Is it true Mostly man in egypt got a dark lover coz of their wife not good on bed also?

Glenda Schweitzer
@just4youeg
This is not true. 
Tamer Hanafy
Despite the facts, some stories are really devastating,  and some ,very few men are really heart breaking guys, but
Is not a general base we can rely on.

That happened to the post generator,  is a single case, and not common.

We believe in God,and we respect humanity.

Those accidents,  happened,  for reasons .
Rosa Jones
I have been travelling to Egypt for ten years now and have never been interested in an Egyptian man.

It is rare to find an Egyptian man who does not see a European woman as a  walking bank a  visa out of poverty or as a potential home provider to scam you out of an apartment. I cannot begin to tell you the number of times Egyptian men have tried to scam me 'borrow' money. It seems the majority come for the Red Sea area of Qena.

If you meet an educated man from Cairo or Alexandria they have a different outlook and are too busy building their own life and career to be hustling women for money or visa.

Russian and Eastern European women tend to fall for these chancers. Also some elderly unattractive English women. I saw one example of a waiter/gigolo who charmed a pensioner with an apartment in Al Ahya. She had retired to Egypt and purchased an apartment in Al Ahiya. Within weeks he had charmed hr into marrying him. He was never faithful he had multiple women.

The pensioner bought him a fleet of taxis (more fool her). Finally she found out how promiscuous he really was after he no doubt passed on something undesirable. He had been playing a Russian a Ukrainian and a Polish woman on the side, dining them on the proceeds of his taxi fleet bought by his pensioner wife.

She finally divorced him and of course he managed to get the apartment in the divorce case the  judge will always rule in favour of the unfaithful Egyptian husband. He now rents out that apartment and another apartment and is doing well financially while still playing a number of women and the poor ex wife has had to return to work as she has fittered away her grandchildren's on that promiscuous loser Ahmed.

I know of another case of an elderly unattractive pensioner from the UK who has run various catering businesses in Hurghada who was chatted up by a hotel worker at Makadi hotel. He already had a wife and kids in Qena but the old woman was so desperate to have a young husband that she married him. Or should I say she purchased him. She knows he sees her as nothing more than a cash cow but she lacks all self respect and has no shame. Which is why I have never been attracted to Egyptian men.

To the lady who posted this blog dump that parasite unfaithful loser and move on with your life.
nvecats
@jeanie99

Four wives are allowed but they must all be treated equally.  Of my male friends in Egypt, none have more than one wife.
hazemmometwally
No this was true but for the extremely wealthy. Western people still think I divorce you 3 times constitute s a divorce. This may apply in certain aspects but not the norm - the reason for having 4 wives is about children. I studied Islam and qualified as a teacher - none of my Muslim friends have more than one wife. I think this is a thing of the past. Just my opinion
Rosa Jones
I agree with the previous post it's a thing of the past to have multiple wives. It's a sign of ignorance and stupidity seen only in the uneducated or those with their eye on a visa to get out of poverty. They will try to marry an older European to scam their way into Europe or the UK but it never works, because the immigration departments of those governments have seen it all before, so while they are more than happy to accept the 500 euro fee for the visa application they will just laugh and reject the idea of a 30 year old waiter or unemployed chancer marrying a 65 year old woman and that is a fact. Most developed countries are already overpopulated and that is a major problem today. There are thousands of criminal people traffickers making a lot of money from trafficking multiple thousands of Africans into the UK who are now being returned to Africa by the UK government. Egyptians need to stay in their country and work hard to build it. Marrying an old woman to run away is not the answer. If you're lazy in your own country life will not be any better in Europe.
Nnice Rythm
@ElaineCrawley By the way, orfi is legal as long as the conditions are met. Hence, if you take the Orfi paper and go to a police station to lodge a complaint for example, police consider it as a legal binding document !

Orfi conditions to be a recognizable and legitimate, are:
A) 2 Witnesses “to be not related to either parties”
B) It can’t be any girls first marriage. Meaning, a divorce certificate has to be presented otherwise the man can t marry the woman
C) parents/ acquaintances of both parties should be present whilst writing the contract
D) Publicizing the marriage, meaning it can’t be a secret and you both ought to tell ppl about the happy move

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