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Everyday life for a typical Egyptian today

Last activity 20 May 2014 by -ibrahim-

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mydream

Hi

I was wondering how life has changed for the typical working class Egyptian family in the last few years?
What sort of things would you like to see in your country to make life better for everyone and can you see it happening one day soon?

mydream

Does no one have any dreams for Egypt??...things they would like to.see happen in their country?  The Egyptian people fought so hard and were so dedicated to their wonderful country during the revolution, surely you have dreams about how you would like your life to change?

biffy

Why are you posting this on an EXPAT forum.?
Unfortunately most (and my apologies to the exceptions on this forum) most of the Egyptians on this forum are young males soliciting the female expats .

mydream

Sorry but I don't understand what your reply has to.do.with the question I asked?  I was under the impression this forum was for anyone to post questions to which they would like to know the answer and, as an Expat, I am interested in Egypts future.

biffy

Thats exactly what I am saying - this is a forum for expats (ie. People living outside their own country) in Egypt.  (Brits Americans Ukrainians French Chinese Germans Danes  etc. Etc. - absolutely not the average Egyptian citizen)
Therefore we are not the people who can give you an answer as mostly we are not Egyptians!!

It's great that you are asking this question - but you need Egyptians to answer it not expats.

mydream

Lol that's why I posted it on here ....The Cairo....forum. Egyptian people are allowed to post on here too and also what. Is wrong with expats. ...for whom Egypt is their new home...posting their hopes and dreams.on here too?

biffy

Like I said 97% of the Egyptians on here are young males soliciting the female expats - their only concern is to find a way out.

also why would expats have 'hopes and dreams for Egypt - it's not our country, most will leave having spent a specified amount of time here (and more quickly than that should the situation here escalate).
It isn't our right to have comment - that is for the Egyptian people. Also our situations are vastly different - we don't struggle on minimum wages, on the whole we don't live in the same places - and the majority of us are very privileged when compared to the average Egyptian

mydream

Not all Biffy,  I live amongst the poorer egyptians and so do some of my friends and I would hope that the expats who have moved to Egypt to live permanently do consider it to be their country. Not all Egyptian men on here are here to solicit some, I would say lots, do have valuable.comments to make. You obviously do not consider egypt to be your home but just.a "stop over" so I wouldn't expect people in your position to be concerned about Egypts future. I, on the other hand, wish to make egypt my permanent home so I am concerned about the future. Plus I care about the Egyptian people greatly and I would love to see their future greatly improved. If you have no opinion on Egypts future that's fine , after all we are all entitled to. Our own opinion. This post is looking forward to.replies.from both Egyptians and Expats?

Mohamed Adel

Everybody here is commenting about Egyptian from his/her own perspectives, Do you all think that Egyptian people have no dream to see Egypt the best country in the world? Please, expatriate have totally different than middle eastern, specially Egyptian. So, to understand "Everyday life for a typical Egyptian today" you have to understand the culture first and don't compare Egyptian culture with your own culture to be fair enough. that's a different civilization and culture, but the most important is who to cope with and respect each other ideas, thought and cultures. Then, i would like to tell all of you that you don't know who are the Egyptian yet. Egyptian are the most close and caring families in the world, Some of Egyptian are working hard to make Egypt more better, But i do believe that Egypt has lots of gaps, lots of problems and some of Egyptian people are pessimistic and hopeless. Also, i do agree that most of Egyptian men here are looking for socializing with expatriate women, i could be one of them as well. but i do reply for some questions according to my knowledge... However, for Egypt future, you can know it by reading Egyptian history and history repeat itself sometimes. Changes need time, no one can change a country in one day nor a months.
Also, Some of expatriate women are looking forward to socializing with Egyptian men and some of them have been asking for friendships and hanging out....

biffy

Fortunately you can't comment on whether I wish to make Egyptian my forever home.
just the plain fact that you are not Egyptian makes your perspective different.
My husband is Egyptian and over the 16 years we have been married I know Egyptians pretty well from all levels - thats how Egyptian families are

The average Egyptian isnt necessarily poor - but neither are they rich. And each group will have their own opinions.
I think that it is a sad fact that a very large sector of the population are really too poor and ground down to care - their main concern on a daily basis is finding enough money and food to survive.

Mohammed - Egyptians do have aspirations for their country - but I think there are many grass roots problems the country has to work on first - education being one of them.


But imho I dont have the right - even being married to an Egyptian - to comment. Whether I live my life here or not I do have other options and my upbringing was different and that will always colour my opinion. It is impossible for it not to

if you want to know what the average egyptian thinks - why not ask them - you are down with the people.
Friends and family will answer - but be warned it can be pretty divisive as my husbands family know too well - when you have strong pro-MB and ant-MB views.

layla abouzid

Hi have just been reading the comments on here and I am an expat who now lives here and cares about this country and its people
During the last few years it has become so hard for people to make a living Where I live most people rely on the tourists whether in the hotels or visiting their shops It has made me so sad to see these people they have have a look of despair in their eyes and worry constantly Many have extended families who rely on money being sent home and don't have this money to send Businesses.have been forced to close 
For me I wish for these people and this country that has so much to offer stability and the hope and chance for this country to turn itself around and once again be admired in the eyes of the world

mydream

I too am married to an Egyptian and have lived in the middle of a less affluent area. I know.egyptian people too and I value their l opinions .

biffy

Who doesn't value their opinions?

mydream

I agree with you Layla the Egyptian people have struggled for so long now and they deserve.a much.better future. They need to see their.country.getting strong again and they need to be able to see a way forward for themselves. Egypt and her people deserve this its a beautiful country with beautiful people and I hope that things improve soon .

Mohamed Adel

Hope Egyptian people be optimistic enough and having faith towrding the future, but the most important people must know that changing needs working too hard. changing needs commitments and determined, thank you for your supporting.

layla abouzid

Dear   My dream enchalla enchalla really I hope this so much They must find a way to find stability and peace

mydream

I agree Mohamed and I pray every day that one day soon the Egyptian people get the.life they deserve because they are amongst the loveliest people I have EVER met and they deserve so much more in their lives. The poorer people in Egypt have suffered long enough and it's time they saw a better future for themselves and their children.

I tell everyone that I know that they should come to.Egypt to visit because you can't help but fall in love with the country and her people!

mydream

Insha Allah Layla! I pray EVERY day for Egypt and her people. I have seen the suffering the people struggle with.and it's time now that their lives got better and they had a future which.was as beautiful.as the Egyptians themselves are!

Bassam emam

Walsall and laila thank you for your sweet thought , wishes , and dreams for our beloved country egypt  and all of us wish a better future and inshallah it will be a bright one and as for biffy not all of us here are young people trying to pick up women a lot of us are just on this Expat.com trying to help people like who are guests here in our country in order not to get stolen by people or to give you directions to places you want to go to or whatever you need cause the egyptian people are friendly and sociable and even the guys who are flirting with forigners you should be flattered cause they just think you are beautiful as long as they are acting in a decent and acceptable way so if someone here is just wishing for egypt a brighter future or asking egyptian people about their dreams i think its acceptable and the egyptians who are on this blog who are trying to help you will gladly answer their question and be delighted that expats here in our country are really converned about the country they are currently living in it ....

mydream

Thank you Bassem
Insha Allah what we all wish for for Egypt will soon come and then all egyptians will have the life they deserve and Egypt will be great again Insha Allah!.
As for the young Egyptians who flirt with the ladies on here they are no different to young men everywhere and, as you say, they are doing no.harm.

biffy

I - right at the beginning - said there were of course the exceptions.

but no harm.
tell that to the ladies who are a little naive and accept offers of help from these harmless Egyptians. When they are then bombarded with disgusting explicit phone calls, texts and mails - all because they dared to say in the end no thanks to all the offers.
And why should I be flattered that some idiot joins this forum and tends pms out to everyone - he must think that generic pink square that indicates I am female is so beautiful!
Sorry - what a load of horse manure.

Egypt is a beautiful country - and will be again. But it is going to take alot of hard work from everyone to make it that  way again.

But since I first came to Egypt some 16 years ago (and obviously being a regular visitor and now I live here) - the people have changed and not for the better.
Things like harrassment/ screwing people (even other Egyptians seem to be the norm now not the exception.
The Egypt I first visited wasn't like that.

but back to the subject - Egypt will hopefully get to where it wants to go but it is going to be a winding road - and along the way you may not like some of what has to happen - but it needs to be accepted and move forward step by step.

but I still think that this the wrong forum to ask the question.  The average family are your friends, maybe family if you have married an Egyptian.
but still there is a great divide about who should be conducting these changes - you need to agree to disagree , stop protesting and work towards the common goal
Egyptians also need to realise that freedom and democracy doesn't mean that everyone can flout the rules / laws and do what they want when they want - all you achieve is chaos which to a certain extent is where you are now

Knuckle down, work hard and give whoever you vote in  chance - and it needs to be longer than a year - because you may not like some of the tough things that have to be done at first.

Mohamed Adel

i agree with you Biffy, expats are more advantaged in Egypt compared to the locals, the companies pay expats 100% more to the expats, as for the guys (egyptians)most are here for sexual advancements and i wonder if they did not see the message which is clear, saying "this is not a dating site", the questions are actually related to egyptians we expats have nothing to do with that

Mohamed Adel

it will take this country more than 3 decades to have freedom and democracy, because for centuries egypt has been under military rule,and now it is entering another "military rule" in disguise, the leadership is too much of money and asset mongers, there is too much poverty, women and children are second if not last class citizens. level of opression of citizens by the leaders is at its highest,i wish that one day this country can have freedom and democracy ,justice

mydream

The question is of equal relevance to expats who have made Egypt their home. We all want to live in a society where we feel valued and safe and can see a future for our families and I don't see why you say this is not relevant to expats. Not all expats live in the more affluent areas and not all expats receive an "expats" wage. There are lots who live as the average Egyptian lives and if they intend to stay in Egypt then surely they have their own ideas of what they would wish for, what is now, their country.
I know there are SOME Egyptian males who use this forum for their own ends but that does not apply to all of them lots have very valuable advice. I  also get the impression some times that some of the expats dont like living in Egypt and have nothing good to say about the Egyptian people which is such a shame.

-ibrahim-

[Moderated: lets keep an open mind and avoid any negative conclusion please ]

Adam4449

I told you .with all due respect-    For some reason you always post negative thoughts . Even my dream told you so. Let people be who they are and write what they wish.

biffy

That applies to everyone surely - let people write what they want and be who they are.!

just because it isnt what you want to hear doesnt make it any less valid  - peter in New York!!

-ibrahim-

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