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Last activity 31 July 2021 by F0xgl0ve

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F0xgl0ve

berend wrote:

hi,
could you post the steps to take, costs and time frame involved for self employed?
many thanks.
berend


Are you asking about setting yourself up as self employed or to apply for residency?

If residency, it is covered in this topic at the beginning of the pinned post but if about self employment I would suggest starting a new topic as this one is ' EU Citizens e-residency process & Health Care info.'

Ray

odaku

Hello Berend:

Please see my post below.  Apologies for double posting

odaku

berend wrote:

hi,
could you post the steps to take, costs and time frame involved for self employed?
many thanks.
berend


Hello Berend:

For my wife who is an EU Citizen, we recently completed setting up the self-employment process.  It was quite painless to be honest.  We used the Maltese Government's own completely free service called "Business First" and you can get more info on their wesbite.  It is EU funded and professionally run.  Their office is in Birkirkara Bypass next to Farson's Brewery in the same building where Mike's Motor car dealership is:

https://businessfirst.com.mt/en/Pages/default.aspx


They were very helpful and professional and took care of all the paperwork.  Best thing that you could do this remotely without being in Malta.  At the end, you will have your Social Security Number, Jobsplus Registration, Expatriate Taxpayer Registration, VAT Number.  That's pretty much it.  With these papers you should be able to apply for E-Residency, which we did.  We are still waiting for our ID Card.

Good Luck!

MaltaCommando

Hello all, my father has just lost (or more like, had stolen) on the bus a purse with his Maltese ID Residence Card and the POYC card (the one to get discounted medicines in pharmacies).

I have searched on the Maltese government website and it doesn't appear clear to me. He has fill in the same form and provide all the information, as if it was a new registration? or just showing up in the Evans building with passport would be enough?  we have photocopies of the original.

And the same question goes for the POYC card.  Everything has to be done as a new registration, or just showing the related documents would be enough to order a new one? (I guess a € fee will be mandatory in both cases).

Thanks for reading.

GozoMo

I would think he will need to start from the beginning again with his residence card like you have to when it becomes out of date, as regards the yellow card it would be best to see his doctor or the
pharmacy he normally uses.

krissygay

email address please

GozoMo

krissygay wrote:

email address please


What are you referring to?   You need to quote the relevant post.

MaltaCommando

Just to inform fellow expats, the process of getting a eresidence card once you've lost it or had it stolen is quite easy. You only have to fill in a short form and show passport, and pay a fee.

Although, I must advise you, if you don't go at opening, don't bother. We waited about 2-3 hours having arrived at 9:30. 2-3 clerks to cover all EU citizens needs in the country is not enough I am afraid.

F0xgl0ve

MaltaCommando wrote:

Just to inform fellow expats, the process of getting a eresidence card once you've lost it or had it stolen is quite easy. You only have to fill in a short form and show passport, and pay a fee.

Although, I must advise you, if you don't go at opening, don't bother. We waited about 2-3 hours having arrived at 9:30. 2-3 clerks to cover all EU citizens needs in the country is not enough I am afraid.


We are currently renewing ours and we arrived at 7.30am, half an hour before opening and there were already 3 people there. By 8.30 we were done but one of the staff told those just arriving outside that they were unlikely to be seen before the office closed at 12.300pm!

More staff or longer hours are definitely needed here on Gozo.

It would also save a lot of time if you did not have to go through everything again when your details are already in the system, just for renewal or to change address, which we have done 3 times in 5 years.

Ray

GuestPoster9468

Wow. I've been to the office in Victoria twice and both times waited no longer than ten minutes. Maybe the tourist season wasn't in full swing at the time.

GozoMo

Laz2016 wrote:

Wow. I've been to the office in Victoria twice and both times waited no longer than ten minutes. Maybe the tourist season wasn't in full swing at the time.


You have been extremely lucky but I do not see the connection to the tourist season.

F0xgl0ve

Laz2016 wrote:

Wow. I've been to the office in Victoria twice and both times waited no longer than ten minutes. Maybe the tourist season wasn't in full swing at the time.


You must be the luckiest person on earth.

I always find that there dozens of 'tourists' queuing up for residence cards!!! :dumbom: I always thought they were would be expats waiting to apply for residence cards!

Ray

GuestPoster9468

GozoMo wrote:
Laz2016 wrote:

Wow. I've been to the office in Victoria twice and both times waited no longer than ten minutes. Maybe the tourist season wasn't in full swing at the time.


You have been extremely lucky but I do not see the connection to the tourist season.


I was merely trying to offer an explanation as to why I've never seen 'dozen's of people in a queue at the office, assuming these many many applicants could be tourists seeking to apply for residency because they liked the island so much as I did and several of my friends did. You come as a tourist, like the place so much you want to stay.

GozoMo

Laz2016 wrote:

Wow. I've been to the office in Victoria twice and both times waited no longer than ten minutes. Maybe the tourist season wasn't in full swing at the time.


The reason there are more people queuing is that it was five years ago the new residence cards were issued and many as in our case have expired so you have to apply for a new one in the same way as you did for the first one.

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svale

Dragged my husband (who is 80 and doesn't do hills or queuing well) to get his residence card at the Evans building in Valletta. I dropped him off at 9:00 and when I had managed to park the car in the mcp car park and walk to him (about 9:30), he had managed to get all his forms submitted and was waiting for the photo (about 24 in front of him). Some advice:

1. Get there early. By 10:00 the queue was really long
2. Make sure you fill in your forms in advance and have all the supporting evidence. Quite a few were sent to fill in forms and then had to queue.
3. Getting the photo takes time. We did not exit until about 12:30. There was a period mid morning (45 minutes) when no one was seen. Loads of people after us.
4. Take something to read / drink to occupy queuing time. BTW the toilets (in the reception area) are awful and there is no place to get refreshments.

From observation, it appears that some people managed to get priority (despite ticket system) . I don't know how but there were definitely some people called  to be photographed who arrived after us

svale

Any idea how long it now takes to get your card after you have submitted your forms and gone through the initial process. I remember that mine took about 4/5 weeks but that was 2 years ago

F0xgl0ve

In Gozo they are taking 6 to 8 weeks (they are still processed in Malta) . My last two, one last year for change of address and one last month to renew for another 5 years, both took exactly 8 weeks. My wife's took 6 and 8 weeks.

svale

As an update, my husbands Id card took 7 weeks. The collection at Evans building was no problem - a queue of 8 people and less than 30 minutes

omer2018

Hello Friends,

I just moved to Malta because I got a job. I have EU nationality. I would like to know that which resident card can I apply?
I am just confused about Ordinary resident and Permanent resident. I am moved in Malta permanently so that I will stay more than 180 days in Malta.

Regards,

GozoMo

omer2018 wrote:

Hello Friends,

I just moved to Malta because I got a job. I have EU nationality. I would like to know that which resident card can I apply?
I am just confused about Ordinary resident and Permanent resident. I am moved in Malta permanently so that I will stay more than 180 days in Malta.

Regards,


Welcome to Malta, you apply for a residence card the permanent card is for anybody who has lived here for more then five years and majority do not apply for this one even then.

omer2018

Thank you, Sir.
Can I apply straightaway or wait for 3 months?

GozoMo

omer2018 wrote:

Thank you, Sir.
Can I apply straightaway or wait for 3 months?


You are normally asked to show three months worth of bank statements to show you have been living
here, we had to renew ours a few months ago and had to show them then, you also need proof of an income and possibly health insurance, we also were asked for a copy of our lease.

Thrane

This has been very helpful and I am considering moving to Malta.

I currently commute between he Caribbean and South Africa but want to move back to Europe (Danish national)

What would be the top three places to live on Malta?

GozoMo

Before you decide to move to Malta you need to visit to see whether you would be happy here or not.
Where to live depends on the area you will be working even though it’s a small island it can still take quite a while to get to places.

Thrane

Hi GozoMo

I run my own consulting business so I can live wherever I wish so to speak

Where would be the best place to live that is too expensive and in a nice area?

GozoMo

Thrane wrote:

Hi GozoMo

I run my own consulting business so I can live wherever I wish so to speak

Where would be the best place to live that is too expensive and in a nice area?


Like I said earlier you need to visit Malta, I live on Gozo so cannot advise you on best places
to live in Malta, Gozo is, in my opinion,  a nicer quieter place to live.

Thrane

Thanks for sharing your insights GozoMo

omer2018

GozoMo wrote:
omer2018 wrote:

Thank you, Sir.
Can I apply straightaway or wait for 3 months?


You are normally asked to show three months worth of bank statements to show you have been living
here, we had to renew ours a few months ago and had to show them then, you also need proof of an income and possibly health insurance, we also were asked for a copy of our lease.


I just met one of a British woman, who is living in Malta 10 years. She told me that you could apply residence day one if you have all documents (employment, tenancy agreement)
what do you say?

GozoMo

When you apply for a residence card in Gozo you are asked to show bank statements for three months
to prove you have been living here, you will also be asked about health insurance.

F0xgl0ve

omer2018 wrote:
GozoMo wrote:
omer2018 wrote:

Thank you, Sir.
Can I apply straightaway or wait for 3 months?


You are normally asked to show three months worth of bank statements to show you have been living
here, we had to renew ours a few months ago and had to show them then, you also need proof of an income and possibly health insurance, we also were asked for a copy of our lease.


I just met one of a British woman, who is living in Malta 10 years. She told me that you could apply residence day one if you have all documents (employment, tenancy agreement)
what do you say?


It always was the case that you could apply on day one and that is what we did when we arrived 6 years ago, however when we went for renewal in October this year, we were asked for proof that we actually resided here and to produce evidence of same, bank statements, household bills or the like.
Apparantly they now ask for this as they have had a lot of dubious applications, where individuals who don't live here yet or don't live where they say they do, are applying using false information.

Dah82pt

Hello everyone, i am planning on moving to malta to live there,  next month in february.
I already read a lot on info on the 'bureucratic' part applying for residence or even the difficulties opening a bank account, that i am getting more confused each time.

My question is; as soon as i get a rent contract, is that sufficient to apply right away for the residence permit,  or do i need to wait ? 
Also to open a bank account i need that id card is that right? So , at best, if the id card takes 4-6weeks to be issued i need to wait all that long to open a bank account?

I will apply as self sufficient as i have an online job, i dont think it adequates as self employed

Thanks everyone

MarcelMarcelMarcel

Information overhere is not always accurate. Best is to hire a proffesional relocation service like De Vink Estates relocation (google it and you will find it). They have a branche for Malta and for Gozo. Of course there is a fee but you will save money and time in the end. Good luck.

F0xgl0ve

Officially you are meant to apply within 3 months, in practice they are asking for proof that you have been residing here for at least 3 months.

Technically you are not required to show a rental agreement but again, in practice you will be asked for one.

Banks vary, we opened an account by simply walking in the door and showing our passports and rental agreement, we then submitted out eResidence cards when we got them. They are more fussy now but again things are changing with the banks starting to acknowledge that they have to provide a basic account if requested.

There is no point in using a relocation agent and paying fees if all you want to do is apply for residency via self sufficiency, it is a very simple process, the staff are usually very helpful and does not normally require professional assistance.

Dah82pt

Thanks, really appreciate your help

Any problem if  during the first 3 months i will not be phisically in malta all the time during that period?

Foxglove you say the staff are helpful, you are talking about the staff in the office where i apply for the id card yes?

Also i am still a bit confused about residence permit and id card? They mean the same? I often see them refered as the same thing, and sometimes different processes?

Thanks again

GozoMo

Dah82pt wrote:

Thanks, really appreciate your help

Any problem if  during the first 3 months i will not be phisically in malta all the time during that period?

Foxglove you say the staff are helpful, you are talking about the staff in the office where i apply for the id card yes?

Also i am still a bit confused about residence permit and id card? They mean the same? I often see them refered as the same thing, and sometimes different processes?

Thanks again


You apply for a residence card not ID card, the ID card is for Maltese only.

volcane

I used an agent, if the cost is not a concern I would recommend it. One less weird unknown to worry about during an already busy time.

Dah82pt

Thanks, i will think about getting in touch with a relocation agent just because i think it can maybe save me lots of time, but of course also depends on costs of service? Anyone have any idea what order of prices are their services ?

I already tried contacting a real estate agency but got no answer :(

Thanks again!

volcane

You need to call people not email.

It’s been 3 years but I think I paid around 2.5k for two of us. But they did more than just IDs. Tax, employment, IDs etc they did all that for us also helped me get Maltese law employment contracts etc (employed by own company)

GozoMo

It’s not exactly difficult to do yourself, it’s no use trying to contact agents you need to be here in person.

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