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NSA. I got it! Thanks. I was watching Transformer 4.. and messed up!

DanFromSF wrote:

eodmatt wrote:

As for the NSA knowing which site I go to for animated avatars...... I couldn't give a flying f*rt at a rolling donut.

Okay, you know it's more than the animated gif website, right?    Check your cookies.  Unless you've blocked it, Google Analytics is in there and sites that support it (such as this one) report every page you load in your browser back to Google.

You don't care about that either?  The privacy implications of that don't bother you?

And if you think that simply not using Google will protect you from NSA snooping, think again.

What makes you think I suggested that?  I simply said a company that tracks what you search for AND THE WEBSITES YOU VISIT, catalogs the information on their servers to make money off what you do, IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.   The fact that your search and browsing history that Google stores on their servers, that's tied to you specifically, not just some random token, is then subject to a nearly unaccountable, opaque agency like the NSA raises the level of creepiness even higher.

I'm not sure why anybody would subjects themselves to that when they can simply use a search engine that doesn't track you, https://www.duckduckgo.com.

Dan, calm down please, this is only the internet.    I didn't say that you suggested that I wrote: "and if you think..." etc.

So the web search site you use doesn't report back to the NSA (or even NASA, in fact). And the NSA doesn't know that and hasn't taken steps to ensure that they can snoop on you anyway?

Unlikely, my dear Watson.

I'm off to bed, don't lose any sleep! 

jimbream wrote:

Dejavu.dot wrote:

Talking about Nasa or Vietnamese government keeping our private information, I have a great idea. We will buy a satellite and we won't feel upset about the internet connection and no one will keep our information. Just 2m$!!!!

Today I was so talkative so I decide to be talkative again to finish the day: There is a Viet girl. She usually published many secret stories about celebrities and high position governors. Viet spies captured her and they couldn't apply any rules on her. They punished her by capture her in a 2m2 dark room for 2 days. Now she becomes lunatic!!

So dont worry about Nasa.. but Viet Central Intelligence Agency

'Nasa'
You're a classic.

You're funny Jim darling. 

eodmatt wrote:

DanFromSF wrote:

eodmatt wrote:

As for the NSA knowing which site I go to for animated avatars...... I couldn't give a flying f*rt at a rolling donut.

Okay, you know it's more than the animated gif website, right?    Check your cookies.  Unless you've blocked it, Google Analytics is in there and sites that support it (such as this one) report every page you load in your browser back to Google.

You don't care about that either?  The privacy implications of that don't bother you?

And if you think that simply not using Google will protect you from NSA snooping, think again.

What makes you think I suggested that?  I simply said a company that tracks what you search for AND THE WEBSITES YOU VISIT, catalogs the information on their servers to make money off what you do, IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.   The fact that your search and browsing history that Google stores on their servers, that's tied to you specifically, not just some random token, is then subject to a nearly unaccountable, opaque agency like the NSA raises the level of creepiness even higher.

I'm not sure why anybody would subjects themselves to that when they can simply use a search engine that doesn't track you, https://www.duckduckgo.com.

Dan, calm down please, this is only the internet.    I didn't say that you suggested that I wrote: "and if you think..." etc.

So the web search site you use doesn't report back to the NSA (or even NASA, in fact). And the NSA doesn't know that and hasn't taken steps to ensure that they can snoop on you anyway?

Unlikely, my dear Watson.

I'm off to bed, don't lose any sleep! 

That's right Dan,no one is watching,all politicians are honest and fairys push the Sun up every day.

eodmatt wrote:

Dan, calm down please

I'm calmer than you are, dude.

I didn't say that you suggested that I wrote: "and if you think..." etc.

That's a distinction without a difference.  Your implication was that I'm arguing not using Google protects you from the NSA.  I'm arguing that not using Google protects you from Google and the NSA data grab is the icing on the cake.

So the web search site you use doesn't report back to the NSA (or even NASA, in fact). And the NSA doesn't know that and hasn't taken steps to ensure that they can snoop on you anyway?

They can't report what they don't have, and it's plainly verifiable that they don't install tracking cookies on your system (feel free to use them, and check).  If you think "they all do it" and throw up your arms, then you've bought into Google's lies/propaganda.

jimbream wrote:

That's right Dan,no one is watching,all politicians are honest and fairys push the Sun up every day.

Thanks, Jim.  I'll take the blue pill, a cookie, and I'm sure when I wake up in the morning, I'll feel right as rain.

DanFromSF wrote:

mas fred wrote:

A bit thick, his basketball really doesn't drop.

her

Strictly a general statement, not a pop at anyone special.

DanFromSF wrote:

They can't report what they don't have, and it's plainly verifiable that they don't install tracking cookies on your system (feel free to use them, and check).  If you think "they all do it" and throw up your arms, then you've bought into Google's lies/propaganda.

Ok, Duckduckgo in my laptop now.
Should I save money (teaching in 1 year ) to buy a Macbook Pro ?

ngattt wrote:

Should I save money (teaching in 1 year ) to buy a Macbook Pro ?

No, Macbook Air is good enough (it's what I use).  Just 1/2 a year's income. You don't need to eat, right?

DanFromSF wrote:

No, Macbook Air is good enough (it's what I use).  Just 1/2 a year's income. You don't need to eat, right?

Hmmmm, I can cook by myself, it doesn't cost too much for eating. But, when I feel sad, I spend much money for shopping to keep my smile . In 2 week, I lost 1/2 monthly salary for 3 dresses and 1 trousers, 1 T-shirt.
And from now, if I don't want to die, I don't dare be sad again 

jimbream wrote:

H,anyone know a good dating site for people who are looking to start a business in this country?

A guy I know married a girl from Nguyen Chi Thanh Street who had round heels and loose morals. He pays her a retainer every year for her to stray in touch - she is the president of his company!

Jaitch wrote:

jimbream wrote:

H,anyone know a good dating site for people who are looking to start a business in this country?

A guy I know married a girl from Nguyen Chi Thanh Street who had round heels and loose morals. He pays her a retainer every year for her to stray in touch - she is the president of his company!

Nice response!

ngattt wrote:

But, when I feel sad, I spend much money for shopping to keep my smile . In 2 week, I lost 1/2 monthly salary for 3 dresses and 1 trousers, 1 T-shirt.

We call that "retail therapy". 

DanFromSF wrote:

eodmatt wrote:

Dan, calm down please

I'm calmer than you are, dude.

I didn't say that you suggested that I wrote: "and if you think..." etc.

That's a distinction without a difference.  Your implication was that I'm arguing not using Google protects you from the NSA.  I'm arguing that not using Google protects you from Google and the NSA data grab is the icing on the cake.

So the web search site you use doesn't report back to the NSA (or even NASA, in fact). And the NSA doesn't know that and hasn't taken steps to ensure that they can snoop on you anyway?

They can't report what they don't have, and it's plainly verifiable that they don't install tracking cookies on your system (feel free to use them, and check).  If you think "they all do it" and throw up your arms, then you've bought into Google's lies/propaganda.

Dan, you cant be calmer than me, because I am calmer than a tantric yogi's yoga counselor.

We aren't all paranoid and we dont "buy into things" just because we use them. If you want to really avoid snooping you need to use "spoof" ip addresses and VPN's and a whole plethora of counter measures and counter counter measures.

And if you are really, really paranoid about such things then, as I said before, you can give up currency, credit cards, passports, social security, medical insurance, debit cards, store cards, bus passes, telephones, computers etc, etc ad infinitum ad nauseum and go and live in a Faraday cage underground, grow a long shaggy beard and wash in puddles.

Problem is, they already know who you are and where you are. But they just don't care.

Oy vey.

Matt, let's not let perfection be the enemy of the good.

Google places tracking cookies on users' computers.  There's code embedded into webpages (including the one you're reading now) that reports that you are reading it back to the creeps at Google.  They scan the page content and create a profile of the things they think you might be interested in, in an effort to sell you more crap.  So when you go onto the next site that uses Google Adsense, you get ads for the things you were reading about on the previous site.  That's the simple version.  The reality is it's far more complex than that.

And that's creepy.

If someone stood over your shoulder with a notebook and wrote down the URL of every web page you visited, it wouldn't take long before you told them to stop.   What makes it okay that Google does this far more aggressively, all day long, and stores that information on servers that you have no access to? (<--- rhetorical question... don't feel compelled to answer)

It has nothing to do with paranoia, or VPNs, or SSH tunnels, or Tor, or IP-spoofing, or tin-foil hats.  It's about not participating in Google's monetization of you.

I am the calmest  here cos I don't understand anything!

Dejavu.dot wrote:

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I am the calmest  here cos I don't understand anything!

I disagree, I'm calmer because, whilst I fully understand, I don't care.

Chillax.

Troi Oi!!

Dan, I do have someone standing behind me watching everything I do although not with a note book - she's my wife and she's Vietnamese!   

If you think that its creepy having someone pre select internet ads for you based on your browsing habits, that's up to you. Personally I think that it is just part of the modern world - and you can take steps to reduce the adds you receive on your screen - or you can ignore them - whilst wearing a tin foil hat if you so desire - and on some web sites you can eliminate them altogether - it's a matter of choice.

Frankly, giving them a bit of information about my browsing habits is a small price to pay to be able to use Google Earth, Google Moon, Google maps as well as a very good search engine and so on for free

And of course you have the right and the choice to use the off button whenever you desire to escape from the prying cookies and scripts.

And it was you who brought up the spectre of your NSA in connection with this subject, not I.

So, mate, it's time to switch off your mobile phone as well as, yup they know where you are and they can follow you via your phone too.

And for something really potentially scary, look up SHODAN on your quackula search engine.

And to be honest I am much more concerned with the Wests inability to counter the threat of ISIS without killing innocent people than I am about Google.

eodmatt wrote:

Troi Oi!!

Dan, I do have someone standing behind me watching everything I do although not with a note book - she's my wife and she's Vietnamese!   

If you think that its creepy having someone pre select internet ads for you based on your browsing habits, that's up to you. Personally I think that it is just part of the modern world - and you can take steps to reduce the adds you receive on your screen - or you can ignore them - whilst wearing a tin foil hat if you so desire - and on some web sites you can eliminate them altogether - it's a matter of choice.

Frankly, giving them a bit of information about my browsing habits is a small price to pay to be able to use Google Earth, Google Moon, Google maps as well as a very good search engine and so on for free

And of course you have the right and the choice to use the off button whenever you desire to escape from the prying cookies and scripts.

And it was you who brought up the spectre of your NSA in connection with this subject, not I.

So, mate, it's time to switch off your mobile phone as well as, yup they know where you are and they can follow you via your phone too.

And for something really potentially scary, look up SHODAN on your quackula search engine.

And to be honest I am much more concerned with the Wests inability to counter the threat of ISIS without killing innocent people than I am about Google.

GOOD POST EODMATT!

Ah, that google think explains why I always get ads for sheep farms and anti rash creams.

mas fred wrote:

Ah, that google think explains why I always get ads for sheep farms and anti rash creams.

Er, yes, perhaps. Maybe you should wear a barrier cream when entertaining sheep? 

I always visit hotdeal.com, and many ads show in this 4rum.



After deleting all cookies

eodmatt wrote:

Personally I think that it is just part of the modern world

It's not part of my modern world.  There's no need for it to be, unless you've given up, which it seems you have.

Google is your friend;  they're not mine.

ngattt wrote:

I always visit hotdeal.com, and many ads show in this 4rum.

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After deleting all cookies

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Nga, download and use Ghostery.  It will show you all the creepy sites that track you and let you block them.

DanFromSF wrote:

Nga, download and use Ghostery.  It will show you all the creepy sites that track you and let you block them.

Ok, done. Thank you, Dan.
Never care about this, but these days, some ads I visited always show in this site. It's made me feel uncomfortable. Just deleted all cookies, changed password, installed Duckduckgo and Ghostery.

But that's my whole point, no need to get paranoid about it, just use the tools available to protect yourself. And the only thing I am giving upon is reading your doom saying. 

DanFromSF wrote:

Google is your friend;  they're not mine.

I think I know your friend .

ngattt wrote:

I always visit hotdeal.com, and many ads show in this 4rum.

Funny - I don't get any advertising.

By design.

And Google doesn't know my IMEI number, nor my cell handset location, nor my Cell number, nor my SIM number.

Android, the OS with no limits.

Jaitch wrote:

ngattt wrote:

I always visit hotdeal.com, and many ads show in this 4rum.

Funny - I don't get any advertising.

By design.

After I installed Ghostery, and blocked some trackers, I don't see any advertising!

ngattt wrote:

After I installed Ghostery, and blocked some trackers, I don't see any advertising!

But Google still knows where you are, as well as your IMEI and Cell numbers.

Jaitch wrote:

But Google still knows where you are, as well as your IMEI and Cell numbers.

Yes, Jaitch.
But I don't worry when Google has my cell numbers. I only worry when bankers knows my cell number, because their employee will call me often to ask me something I don't like 

Jaitch wrote:

And Google doesn't know my IMEI number, nor my cell handset location, nor my Cell number, nor my SIM number.

I don't know about this, pls explain for me. Thank you so much!

par·a·noid
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adjective
adjective: paranoid
1.
of, characterized by, or suffering from the mental condition of paranoia.
"paranoid schizophrenia"
unreasonably or obsessively anxious, suspicious, or mistrustful.
"you think I'm paranoid but I tell you there is something going on"
synonyms:    oversuspicious, paranoiac, suspicious, mistrustful, fearful, insecure
"all the layoffs in my department have made me paranoid"
noun
noun: paranoid; plural noun: paranoids
1.
a person who is paranoid.

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Jaitch wrote:

ngattt wrote:

I always visit hotdeal.com, and many ads show in this 4rum.

Funny - I don't get any advertising.

By design.

And Google doesn't know my IMEI number, nor my cell handset location, nor my Cell number, nor my SIM number.

Android, the OS with no limits.

Yes well you don't appear to be paranoid and with an axe to grind and you look after your security, same as I do. It isn't rocket science and the information you need to make yourself as secure as possible is there on the web if people can be bothered to look for it.