Marriage advice

tjussi42 wrote:

It is just what me and my Colombian woman are planning. But can you recommend some really good Notaria for us? We have lived together one year and two months, not yet 2 years.

I need this Civil Union as base of my visa application.

My wife says she she doesn't think you need any documents for a Civil Union, they only apply to marriage, She believes that all you need are two Witnesses to accompany you and your 'Wife' to the Notary, they being able to confirm that you are in a stable relationship, and the Notary will issue the Certificate.
Again I would approach the Notary first and establish exactly what is needed,

wealth and income are two different things. You dont declare wealth on taxes but alot can be inferred such as income from investments, depreciation, gross and net numbers ete.  There was a tv ruckus about a South African or European who married his hottie, and he told her he was wealthy. The next week she found out he was not and made a spectacle of him and I believe the CO gov tried to get him in trouble. You must know, that greed is international  but Colombia has more greed than most places I have seen and lots of envy. That is why they will probably elect a communist president even though they cry about what Venezuela is doing to them....The ladies seem to have a hard time separating the man from the money and that is too bad.

handymantulsa unless I am missing something, you have posted on the wrong topic, this is about marriage, not taxes!?

handymantulsa wrote:

....The ladies seem to have a hard time separating the man from the money and that is too bad.

From what I have seen the ladies do not have a hard time at all, separating the man from his money!

Greap post with lots of advice. I am planning on the big M and have been divorced, but consider myself single. I was thinking about getting the co-habitate visa on line which looks very easy now....just need form from Notary and she applies online for you. she has to ask for the VISA.

You mentioned getting hitched in USA.....do you do that on the application for VISA for Colombiana en USA? the MAtrimnio VISA??? and then she has permission to come for 3-6 months and you do the duty and she gets to stay? that is ideal, but how would we get Colombian VISA afterwrds? Still need all the paperwork to give Notary? or is USA marriage enough for Colombian VISA  paperwork?

thanks Phil, but you did miss it. I referred to s single part of a post.Thanks for the free policing.

Yeah, that's right, but only when the gold-digging women are dirt poor, have no professional job, have no money of their own,  and have zero prospects for a better life.

In any case, it's partly the fault of all the men, or most men,  who want a woman who looks like a flawless super model or Miss Universe with a perfect body, and a perfect face, and no hidden gold-digging  agendas.....keep dreaming, guys !!!

If you wanna play, you gotta pay !!!

it's called the game of life, the big circle of life, sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose, but if you want it all, you gotta pony up. ,

besides, there are plenty of conniving gold diggers up here in North America and Europe too......it's a universal thing.

women are basically ingrained with the motto of: follow the money....lol....and they play the game very well....just ask any divorce layer in the U.S., Canada, Europe

Birds of a feather flock together !!! I mean when was the last time you saw a dirt poor woman going out with a filthy rich handsome man from Hollywood ? Rich women marry rich men from their own social circle. Every dirt poor woman's dream is to marry a rich handsome prince of a guy who will cart them off on a white horse to live in a castle happily ever after. Too bad it's just an ever-elusive dream......it's a mirage, like an oasis in  the middle of the Sahara desert.

Yeah, let's get real here, women want security (defined as money) and the nice big house with the white picket fence and 4-10 kids and a bunch of credit cards so they can go shopping till they drop & lunching with their girl friends all the time.....hahaha. Women know how to play the game, they learn that fact of life early in their life. And Colombian women & Brazilian women play the game better than anyone else. Who can blame them ?

Dear ZZ Topper,

Women want four to ten kids?  Not even close.

An article published at mic.com explains the many reasons why today's millennial woman wants fewer kids than mothers of previous generations.

These include the toll pregnancies take .. kids don't fit into an ambitious lifestyle outside of home life .. and the burdens of taking care of children for decades.

Google:  mic.com 11 Brutally Honest Reasons Why Millenials Don't Want Kids

cccmedia

Topper..Colombian women dont go for coffee with their female friends..they just tell you that. They go to a hotel with their Barrio Boy Moso

I like this story..

https://crnchy.com/news/a-letter-from-j … d-diggers/

Well if anyone wants to be put off marrying a Colombiana, you lot have certainly doen a good job, personally I think it's a load of cr@p! I have been happily married for six and a half years.

Better to rent the cow than buy it and you can change your cow every few months when you feel the milk is getting sour.

Why this compulsive obsession with Marriage foreigners who come to Colombia have? Colombians dont feel the same way about the "institution".

I will say one thing though, Marrying someone in Colombia and living here is way smarter than some bone heads who meet a girl on the internet, make a few trips here, and then marry her and drag her ass back to Canada, US , UK or wherever.

And expecting things to turn out "OK"

Sounds like you are talking about American women, not Colombian women. American women are a lot more focused on their professional careers now. travel, having fun, etc.,  and don't even think about getting ,married & having kids until they're about age 30-35, which just before their biological clock runs out at around age35-40.....lol

I am betting the divorce rate in the USA is at least 50 percent?

not all Colombian women do that....especially the wealthy ones, and especially Colombian women with professional careers (examples - doctors, nurses, plastic surgeons, dentists, lawyers, engineers, accountants, and real estate managers)

Just talking about the US ladies here. Our society is changing here with values and expectations.

From what I have seen personally on the ground in Medellin, Colombia, most gringos/foreigners who go to Medellin, Colombia for 1-2 weeks holidays just want to "play" with the women there and have lots of fun and then they just  jump on the plane and fly away back to the US/Canada/Europe/South America. Most wealthy & professional women don't even date gringos/foreigners because they simply don't have to

probably the divorce rate in US/Canada is 50% overall on average, but more like 75% between the younger ages of 18-30. Those are not very good odds for getting married in the US/Canada. You might have better luck in a casino in Las Vegas....hahaha

Hell, why even get married at all...just live with the woman...that's what most of the (poor) Colombian guys do...and if the women give them a hard time, they just pack their suitcase & leave them high & dry after they have had 2-3 kids together.....lol.....fact of life in Medellin, Colombia....99% of the Colombian guys there cheat on their wives & girl friends.....probably because there are around
6-8 single available Colombian women for every guy there in Medellin...maybe, that's why all the single & divorced gringos/foreigners are going there and wanting to move there.....most American women wouldn't give the balding, overweight, stupid slob of a guy the time of day .....8 stunningly beautiful single women there for every guy is a virtual bachelor's paradise ...if you can't find a woman in Medellin, you might as well just forget about it and throw in the towel.....hahaha

ya figure....lol...real men in the good old US of A & Canada are now an endangered species....haven't you heard ?

women aren't cows....and that advice would apply to any country anywhere in the world

yeah man, most Colombian guys, 90% of them,  wouldn't even think about getting married...besides, most of them are just as poor as the women......which is maybe why so many dirt poor Colombian women are looking to meet rich gringos  and they define rich as any gringo with more than $ 1,000 +
in his bank account...women play, men pay...a universal truth

the US is so totally screwed up, it's not even funny.....it's a complete disaster zone now in the USA......,..no wonder so many Americans want to leave there & move to Colombia, Brazil, Spain, France, Italy, Thailand, etc. ....lucky for me, I live in Canada, the great white north....hahaha....I wouldn't live in the USA if you paid me $ 1 Million

no offence to Americans

All true. You just have to find that special lady in Colombia and go from there.

that's true anywhere, not just in Colombia...actually, I went there to Medellin & met lots of nice good looking Colombian women

A note to everybody. Now listen up.

Why even bother getting married at all in the USA or Colombia ? Just live together for 10-25 years first to see if you are compatible.....marriage is going the way of the do-do bird.

And what's the deal with all these people complaining and whining all the time about Colombia 
- the air, the weather, too cold, too hot, low wages, hard to find work, blah, blah, blah?
... If they don't like it, then why on earth don't they just simply move somewhere else. Colombia is not America.

Don't go to Colombia expecting everybody to speak English and listen to all your whining & complaining about this & that....they really don't care whether you like it or not...really.....it is what it is....get used to it...and while you're at it, get a life, and stop the incessant complaining....it's annoying....lol

Loaferin..if you count "Union Libres",  I bet the Colombian divorce rate is 90%. Most Colombians don[t get married.

Colombians have the highest rate of single mothers of anywhere in the world.

Funny these girls make a mistake, pick the wrong guy , don¨t protect themselves, and get pregnant,. The loser Colombian leaves her sola with the kid.

Then some schmuck gringo or other foreigner comes along and marries them and pays for her and the loser barrio boy´s mistake.

Maybe while he is out of  the country she is screwig him still , or some other barrio boy.

But still the extranjeros keep marrying these girls-sometimes even when they have 2 or 3 kids from different guys.

Isnt it is better to wait until you find the right one,or that doesn´t happen, just don¨t get married and have fun, go with the flow?

topperZZ99 wrote:

Hell, why even get married at all...just live with the woman...that's what most of the (poor) Colombian guys do...and if the women give them a hard time, they just pack their suitcase & leave them high & dry after they have had 2-3 kids together.....lol.....fact of life in Medellin, Colombia....99% of the Colombian guys there cheat on their wives & girl friends.....probably because there are around
6-8 single available Colombian women for every guy there in Medellin...maybe, that's why all the single & divorced gringos/foreigners are going there and wanting to move there.....most American women wouldn't give the balding, overweight, stupid slob of a guy the time of day .....8 stunningly beautiful single women there for every guy is a virtual bachelor's paradise ...if you can't find a woman in Medellin, you might as well just forget about it and throw in the towel.....hahaha

6 to 8 girls per guy..ja ja ..statistically impossible,,Read the data 52.9% to 47.1%..still high by world standards, granted

http://worldpopulationreview.com/world- … opulation/

6-8  desperate poor barrio girls to every rich schmuck Foreigner..it seems like anyway on your first trip here.

All true. The world is not a fair place, just have to be careful and prudent. Why take on kids in this world anyway, just a pain. Better to eat good food and lay on the beach drinking cold beer. I appreciate your thoughts.

I went to a private party at a boutique hotel in El Poblado in June-2010,  and met around 250 girls in only 4 hours and had lined up  20 girls and telephone #'s and dates with them in 3 hours time...too many girls, so little lime....I could not handle all of them...too much, man.....but I sure had a good time....and I didn't even speak Spanish,. just a few simple words & phrases

no sir, it's all true, i know that for a fact, i was there 5 times in Medellin.....girls were literally throwing their cellular #'s at me ...i went to one private party where there were 250 girls and only 23 guys...that is a ratio of over 10 women for every guy according to my rough calculations and they were not all poor girls from the barrios either...50% of them were professionals...doctors, nurses, dentists, lawyers, engineers, fashion designers, corporate business executives, travel agents, real estate professionals, etc........most of the local girls hate the Colombian guys because they all cheat on them, or maybe just most of them, and in any case, most of the girls do not even want to move to America either...why would they, when they live in such a beautiful, warm, happy country

haha .. i agree...life's a beach....kids ? - been there, done that....marriage ? - been there, done that..haha

topperZZ99 wrote:

I went to a private party at a boutique hotel in El Poblado in June-2010,  and met around 250 girls in only 4 hours and had lined up  20 girls and telephone #'s and dates with them in 3 hours time...too many girls, so little lime....I could not handle all of them...too much, man.....but I sure had a good time....and I didn't even speak Spanish,. just a few simple words & phrases

They're not there because of your sterling winsome personality or your movie-star good looks or your witty conversation in your stumbling Spanish, believe me.  They are not naturally attracted to aging foreign men with a big barriga and a face full of arrugas.  Or you can choose not to believe me and keep your eyes closed...but fooling yourself does not end up well.

Not all Colombian women would go to such a "private party" - many of them have higher standards and morality.  Not to say you wouldn't find some gems among the dross - but without speaking the language fluently and understanding the culture, you're more likely to be buying fool's gold than the real thing.  And paying dearly for it, one way or another.