Job application documents required and worker rights

romaniaorbust wrote:

Hello I am Drake and I am from Texas.  I am a IT Specialist with 20+ years of experience.  I am looking to move to Bucharest in a few months to marry my fiance.  I love the country and its people and I look forward to starting my new adventure soon.


I am to move to Romania within the next two to three months to marry my fiance (who is a born Romanian citizen).  I have some questions that I have not really been able to find here on this forum or in any search for that concern.  I will detail my questions below:

1.  Once I marry my Romanian fiance and receive residency will I assume the same rights as an Romanian?  Or will I still be considered a Non-EU national?

2.  My fiance has told me some companies as for background check / good conduct.  Depending on the answer for question 1 above am I to provide something from the USA or am I applying under the rights as a Romanian and I am only to provide local Romanian documents.

3.  Other than what I have found on this forum are there any other documents other than Diplomas, references, resume, CV that I should have prepared here in the states before I come?

4.  If I am still acting as a US Citizen will I need to provide or show my USA Social Security card or will that be absolved by receiving Romanian residency and being married to a Romanian citizen.

I would really like to say thank you to any response I get as all the post I have read thus far have been very well answered.

I look forward to my adventure in Romania and would like to build a network with any existing USA expats.

Hello and welcome Drake,  I think I can answer your questions.

1.  You will remain a non-EU national.  Marriage does not confer citizenship of Romania.  According to the government, a foreign national with legal residence in Romania is to have all of the same rights as its citizens, however in practice, this is not so.  Obviously, you will not have the right to vote in Romanian elections, there are also other less obvious differences between your status and a citizen as far as rights go, but they are largely insignificant.

2.  I can't answer this too precisely, as it largely may depend on the company your apply to and what their internal requirements are.  As a legal resident of Romania though, a local police certificate 'cazier judiciar' may be sufficient.  It would surprise me if they wanted a U.S police certificate from where you currently reside.

3.  Yes, you should prepare all of your government issued documents, that being birth certificate, previous marriage/divorce certificates and so on.  They need to be original with attached Apostilles.  Legalized translations can be obtained here in country.  Diplomas and certifications will probably need to be evaluated here for equivalency before they are recognized.

4.  Show/provide your SSN card for what exactly? Even in the USA, I can't remember the last time I needed to produce it for anyone   No, your SSN card is irrelevant here.  You will be issued a CNP when you obtain a residence permit.  If you open a local bank account, you'll probably need to provide them your SSN number to fill out the FATCA forms, but no one should ask for a card.

Hope this all helps,
Romaniac
Expat.com Experts Team

WOW This is awesome!  I was truly hoping to hear from your romaniac!  Another great answer from someone in the know.   I have read many of your post and have found such valuable information in all that you have said.

I am glad on the SSN as mine has been torn in half for about 20 years.

Thank you very much and I look forward to using this forum and passing along anything I learn.

romaniac wrote:

Hello and welcome Drake,  I think I can answer your questions.

1.  You will remain a non-EU national.  Marriage does not confer citizenship of Romania.  According to the government, a foreign national with legal residence in Romania is to have all of the same rights as its citizens, however in practice, this is not so.  Obviously, you will not have the right to vote in Romanian elections, there are also other less obvious differences between your status and a citizen as far as rights go, but they are largely insignificant.

2.  I can't answer this too precisely, as it largely may depend on the company your apply to and what their internal requirements are.  As a legal resident of Romania though, a local police certificate 'cazier judiciar' may be sufficient.  It would surprise me if they wanted a U.S police certificate from where you currently reside.

3.  Yes, you should prepare all of your government issued documents, that being birth certificate, previous marriage/divorce certificates and so on.  They need to be original with attached Apostilles.  Legalized translations can be obtained here in country.  Diplomas and certifications will probably need to be evaluated here for equivalency before they are recognized.

4.  Show/provide your SSN card for what exactly? Even in the USA, I can't remember the last time I needed to produce it for anyone   No, your SSN card is irrelevant here.  You will be issued a CNP when you obtain a residence permit.  If you open a local bank account, you'll probably need to provide them your SSN number to fill out the FATCA forms, but no one should ask for a card.

Hope this all helps,
Romaniac
Expat.com Experts Team

One more question actually on all this information.  Should I have any of the following apostille or just notarized in the USA?:
1. Certified copy of Passport (This is likely a pointless question as the document should suffice however I have seen all sorts of posts all over the internet saying get a notarized "True Copy" of your passport)
2. Diploma
3. High School Transcript
4. USA Drivers license (same idea as #1)

Thank you again for all of your assistance.  Once I get there I should at the very least buy you a drink, well should you drink.

romaniaorbust wrote:

One more question actually on all this information.  Should I have any of the following apostille or just notarized in the USA?:
1. Certified copy of Passport (This is likely a pointless question as the document should suffice however I have seen all sorts of posts all over the internet saying get a notarized "True Copy" of your passport)
2. Diploma
3. High School Transcript
4. USA Drivers license (same idea as #1)

Thank you again for all of your assistance.  Once I get there I should at the very least buy you a drink, well should you drink.

1. Passport - you might need some legalized(notarized) true copies for various things here, but you can do that here easily.  Apostille not needed.
2.  Diploma, probably be good idea to have an Apostille on that.
3.  H.S transcript....can't imagine what you need those for here   Maybe you can enlighten me?
4.  Drivers license - nothing needed.  Upon obtaining residence here, you are required to exchange your US license for a Romanian one in order to legally drive.  You will simply give a notarized statement that your US license is true, authentic and valid and that you hold no other DL's.

No worries about the help, you're welcome.  In the years I've been doing this, many ppl have said they'd offer me a drink or meal.  I've yet to have it actually come to fruition and I don't hold my breath anymore, it's ok.

Romaniac

romaniac wrote:

romaniaorbust wrote:

One more question actually on all this information.  Should I have any of the following apostille or just notarized in the USA?:
1. Certified copy of Passport (This is likely a pointless question as the document should suffice however I have seen all sorts of posts all over the internet saying get a notarized "True Copy" of your passport)
2. Diploma
3. High School Transcript
4. USA Drivers license (same idea as #1)

Thank you again for all of your assistance.  Once I get there I should at the very least buy you a drink, well should you drink.

1. Passport - you might need some legalized(notarized) true copies for various things here, but you can do that here easily.  Apostille not needed.
2.  Diploma, probably be good idea to have an Apostille on that.
3.  H.S transcript....can't imagine what you need those for here   Maybe you can enlighten me?
4.  Drivers license - nothing needed.  Upon obtaining residence here, you are required to exchange your US license for a Romanian one in order to legally drive.  You will simply give a notarized statement that your US license is true, authentic and valid and that you hold no other DL's.

No worries about the help, you're welcome.  In the years I've been doing this, many ppl have said they'd offer me a drink or meal.  I've yet to have it actually come to fruition and I don't hold my breath anymore, it's ok.

Romaniac

Man thanks again! #3 is due to all the craziness I get from each place I talk to and they make me rethink things.  The school said nobody would want the Diploma they just want the transcripts.

I can understand not holding your breath on the drinks promised.  I should be in Bucharest by February...southeast side.

romaniac wrote:

romaniaorbust wrote:

One more question actually on all this information.  Should I have any of the following apostille or just notarized in the USA?:
1. Certified copy of Passport (This is likely a pointless question as the document should suffice however I have seen all sorts of posts all over the internet saying get a notarized "True Copy" of your passport)
2. Diploma
3. High School Transcript
4. USA Drivers license (same idea as #1)

Thank you again for all of your assistance.  Once I get there I should at the very least buy you a drink, well should you drink.

1. Passport - you might need some legalized(notarized) true copies for various things here, but you can do that here easily.  Apostille not needed.
2.  Diploma, probably be good idea to have an Apostille on that.
3.  H.S transcript....can't imagine what you need those for here   Maybe you can enlighten me?
4.  Drivers license - nothing needed.  Upon obtaining residence here, you are required to exchange your US license for a Romanian one in order to legally drive.  You will simply give a notarized statement that your US license is true, authentic and valid and that you hold no other DL's.

No worries about the help, you're welcome.  In the years I've been doing this, many ppl have said they'd offer me a drink or meal.  I've yet to have it actually come to fruition and I don't hold my breath anymore, it's ok.

Romaniac

I just realized something here Romaniac.  My Questions 2 and 3 were both meant to be for High School.   I do not have a college degree so would any future employers in Romania even care about my High School diploma and transcripts at all?  I currently am a freelance software developer working for a company in the states and will stay that way for a while, however I don't want to get there and not have proper documents should I choose to venture out and seek new employment in Bucharest.

Thanks again.

Actually, I was asked to produce an education diploma of some kind (they said high school was ok) in order to volunteer at the Child Protection Services. I had never picked mine up 47 years ago so I don't think they had a copy on file waiting for me. I found an alum from that year and they had theirs and sent me a high quality scan that I pasted my name on and printed out. I graduated, simply didn't have the document.
Romanians are "diploma crazy." If you ever received any awards or certificates or written recognition of any work or volunteer activity or anything like that bring it along.
And don't forget that any money you earn in Romania is taxable to the US IRS.