Land ownership and leasing

Ian52 wrote:

Hi, sorry if this has been asked before, it probably has, I am married to a wonderful lady from Plaridel misamis occidental and we plane to buy a plot and build a home there, i know i can't own the actual land, but I'm worried that should anything happen to my wife that her family could and would take control of my home and I would end up homeless, so my question is, can I lease the land from my wife for say 50 years legally and retain possession of my home in the event of her death ? or am I doomed ? any help would be greatly appreciated, many thanks

Hi Ian, welcome to the forum. If you search within this site you will find most answers to many questions which is great but I always follow up with my good friend google.

http://realestatelawyer.com.ph/category … -on-lease/

Cheers, Steve.

Thanks for the link, looks like I can't lease from my wife oh well, better make sure she outlives me hahaha

Actually I read somewhere, where that is the only way a foreigner can end up owning land, Is it the Filipino spouse died if the Filipina spouse died. I am not sure how true that is but I do remember reading that somewhere.
You can however, legally own 40% of it while your wife is alive, that will at least get you 40% ownership in the property before anything were to happen.

Check this link out: http://philfaqs.com/i-heard-a-foreigner … ilippines/

Wonder if she leaves it to me in her will, would that work, that's how my will is written anyway, if I kick the bucket it's all hers

Here is the article since the link is under review and didn’t post.

let’s look at what happens when the Filipino partner passes away. (nothing really happens property-wise when the foreigner partner passes, since s/he never owned the property to begin with).

Wills are much less common here than in many developed countries.  But they certainly are used.  But when real property is involved, there is a basic underlying law which takes precedence over any language in a will.  Philippine law stipulates a reserved portion of all estates for compulsory heirs

Certain parts of the estate of a deceased Filipino citizen cannot be freely disposed of because Philippines law reserves them for the “compulsory heirs”.  The “compulsory heirs” are classified as:

Primary – legitimate children and/or descendants
Secondary – legitimate parents and/or descendants; illegitimate parents
Concurring – surviving spouse; illegitimate children and/or descendants
This is one of the reasons I advise a lot of caution and competent legal advice before rushing off to buy property here.  Note, in the three levels of “compulsory heirs” the surviving spouse comes, at best, on the third level of heirs to be endowed.  The legitimate children of the marriage, the legitimate parents, illegitimate parents (a common occurrence here) all come first and the surviving spouse has to battle it our on level three with illegitimate children who may show up.

Here’s a typical example case:  If a desceased is survived by her husband and four legitimate children, ½ of her hereditary estate is reserved equally between the children (1/8 each) whilst the husband takes the same share as one legitimate child i.e. 1/8. This leaves 3/8 of the estate which can be freely disposed of in accordance with her will.

The free portion of a hereditary estate can be freely willed to any person or class of person with the capacity to succeed under the Civil Code, even if that person is already a compulsory heir, with a prescribed share.

OK, so that means that the surviving spouse gets 1/8 under the compulsory law, but the wife could have made a will which gives him the ‘left over’ 3/8 as well … totaling up to one half, and the children have the other half (which he is likely the legal guardian of), so why worry?

One good reason to worry.  A foreigner can inherit from a Filipino spouse, so long as he or she inherits from an intestate estate,that is, one with no will.  Non-Filipino citizens, who can inherit land by hereditary or intestate succession (without a will) but not by testamentary succession (with a will).  That 3/8 share we were talking about?  It can’t be willed to the surviving spouse.

Keep one other thing in mind … the foreigner who inherits in this way is legally the owner under Philippine law, but he/she can not sell or bequeath to another foreigner.  In other words the foreign ownership can not be a chain.  the property does belong to the surviving foreign spouse but he/she can’t dispose of it at will.  It can only be sold or bequeathed to a natural-born Filipino.

I already have a headache, myself.  I think you can get enough of a taste here to see why I feel the property laws, especially with ‘mixed’ couples here are very convoluted.  I see couple all the time who have invested their life savings and it’s all at risk because of children the wife had previously or even a case where the Filipino spouse’s father never married her mother and disappeared.  If the man is still alive and chooses to, he can show up and demand his share of her estate … in front of the woman’s surviving spouse.  If he has children, they can show up and claim their share of their father’s share.  They may not prevail, but it will cost a small fortune in legal costs and months or years in court to defend against their claim.  How strange is that?

Buy property if you chose to … my spouse and I are going to buy some ourselves, but be darn sure you don’t make it the cornerstone of your estate … it’s a place to live, not an investment, because neither the foreigner nor the Filipino owner has much control over the distribution … and these cases can go on for years.

Headache inducing is right, luckily she has no children, we are looking to adopt in the future, and our wills will obviously be in favour of the children, she does have parents and brothers and we all get on very well, I just don't want to end up a homeless vagabond should the worst happen, we will buy the land and we are going to build our home on it, hopefully it will all be fine and I die first then there wont be any issues, thank you very much for your answers they are very much appreciated.