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leloii

Hello,

I am Dutch (60 yrs) and have been living in Vietnam for eight years with my Vietnamese partner. Since there is no retirement visa in Vietnam I have been going from visa to visa. They were mostly business class visa and not at all applicable for my situation, but until recently it worked fine. Overnight everything changed and my future in this country is looking bleak. Authorities told me I can now only obtain a 1 month tourist visa.  I just life too far away from the border for monthly visa-runs. With my age that is not doable. Before every foreigner in Vietnam starts to worry, this strict enforcement to the letter of the law seemingly only happens in the Northern province where I live. Every provincial office, including immigration, is being investigated by higher authorities at the moment.

Thus we decided to leave her business to her children and move to Cambodia which is friendlier toward retirees. I have sufficient income from an apartment rental in the Netherlands so expect to get a retirement visa without problems. However, I find little information for my partners situation. We are not married (long story) and we are seeking that she can stay long term, ideally 6 months. After this period she wants to visit her children and join me again for half a year. Since she needs something that occupies her, she doesn't mind taking up a simple job. She speaks English and has experience in the hospitality branch. I read that there is an EG visa for job seekers and that you need to enter the country on an ordinary E class visa.

There is also the possibility that eventually I will open an Airbnb style hostel with just two rooms. Could I become her employer so she would qualify for an EB visa? Under this scenario, what is the best visa for me personally? Can I open a hostel with a retirement visa? I understand I cannot work holding an ER visa so I assume, I need a business visa? If that's the case how do I go from a retirement visa (to settle in at first) to a business visa?

Any advise would be much appreciated.

JoeKhmer

Hallo landgenoot  :)

Many questions on several possibilities, so let's answer it one by one.

1. Vietnamese citizens with a passport don't need a visa if their stay is less than 30 days. [Asean]

2. If they want to stay longer the same rules apply as for other foreigners, see later.

3. For yourself: get in on a Ordinary visa on arrival [E], extend it in the next two weeks for a ER [retirement] extension of stay [EOS], for 1, 3, 6 or 12 months [costs of a 1 year EOS is about $290].

4. Your partner should also come in on an ordinary visa and extend it. She can get a EG [general] EOS if she wants to search for a job, the EG extension is for max. 6 months but is multiple entry. In relation to her wish to go back after 6 months this works well, she better leave after 5 months, stay in Vietnam for e.g. one month and come back on the still valid EG extension, so no need for a new visa on arrival.
But once the 6 months of the EG extension are gone she officially has to leave the country, come back on a Ordinary visa on arrival again and apply for one of the extensions. If she has found a job before the EG is invalid, she has to change it to a EB extension, which can be again for 1, 3, 6 or 12 months.
She needs a letter from her employer, which has to be a registered company, with letterhead and an official stamp.
As alternative she could also stay during the whole 6 + 1 months of visa plus extension, then go Vietnam and when coming back get an Ordinary visa again.

5. You are not allowed to work or have a business when you are on a ER extension. You then need to change it for a EB extension, with the same rules as I mentioned before. If you want to start your own business you need to register it, get a taxation number and use that to get an EB extension. You can have a quota of foreign employees, but have to give details from the beginning.

6. Note that this is all about visa and extensions of stay, issued by the Department of Immigration, part of the Interior ministry. Another ministry, the Labour Min., wants you to apply for a work permit, which can be done by yourself on line, after you receive your EB extension. It's not too complicated, but if you like a good agent can do the work for you, against a fee obviously.

These are the answers to your questions. Feel free to ask if something is not clear, we're here to help you.

Good luck.

Joe
Cambodia expert
Expat.com team

leloii

Thanks (bedankt  :top: ) Joe for the swift posting with very useful info. 

Leloii

JoeKhmer

leloii wrote:

Thanks (bedankt  :top: ) Joe for the swift posting with very useful info. 

Leloii


:thanks::thanks::thanks:

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