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Filipino Boyfriend (LGBT) Visiting UK - Philippines Immigration Exit

Last activity 01 November 2018 by bigpearl

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ILikeToTravelLight

Hello guys and gals. I really  hope that people can offer me advice here. I am no stranger to filling in forms and documents and dealing with bureaucracy in general. I am reasonably well traveled, with travel history in Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, France, Nepal and the Philippines.

I have a Filipino Boyfriend, who is 21. I am 23 and have lived in my own house since 16, reasonably independent. He lives in his own apartment. I have known him as a friend since October 2017, been together since Feb. We met in person earlier this year, and I can show proof of that. We are in a gay relationship.

He has been employed (and will be until September) and I was also helping to support him. This was a bit of a challenge at first as he would often not tell me he was without money at first and it would be me who would probe that and offer it to him (contrary to my experiences of a few locals who got a NO for an answer the moment they saw my white skin with their hands out, he has never asked me specifically for money, in fact he and my Filipino friends whom I have acquired over a period of time were outraged and also told them to go away). I since budgeted his salary and found that is simply not enough to live comfortably so I offered and give him an allowance and he budgets it well. He works hard 6 days a week and does NOT expect a handout from others, in fact he and me have the same spiritual beliefs and that is how we met.


His contract is until September.

I am not too concerned about applying for his UK visa. He will not be employed, but I am fully sponsoring his trip and I can show savings for the trip, and proof of his property tenancy agreement, internet contracts (with 2 year lock ins), proof of ongoing support, proof of the trip being budgeted for, and that we will be flying from the Philippines to the UK and back to the Philippines together to do further sightseeing and socializing with our Filipino friends! I am sure we will pass the visa application on grounds of my sponsorship.

I want him to come in November and december to meet my family, friends, attend my graduation and spend christmas with us. He will be staying at my home. I will then be returning to the Philippines with him in January on the same return ticket (yes i know I need a further onward ticket from there) which will be the start of a long stay with him in the Philippines as thankfully they are great with visa extensions.

I know there is no 100% certainty but ill cross that bridge when I come to it and in the event of a negative decision would just fly out to Nepal to see some Nepali friends instead! Our plan is to at some point settle me down in the Philippines, I really enjoyed the Philippines on my last trip however I did have to avoid a few gold-diggers (with the latest smartphone might I add!) which was easy enough to do but I had to be firm!


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My problem seems to be with dealing with the formalities on the Filipino end and this is raising more questions than answers, and searching around the internet for 3 months has proven futile at finding out truly what to do. He currently has no travel history.

Most people here will probably know that Filipinos have to pass exit checks to be allowed exit. The problems I have noticed here is that for sponsored travel, you need to show an affadavit of support seems easy enough, until you come to the below requirement. the below requirement (As taken from the Filipino immigration website).

"4th civil degree of consanguinity relationship between sponsor and the passenger, e.g., pinsang buo or affinity, e.g., bayaw/hipag/biyenan);"

This is concerning me for three reasons.

1. We are not married, and even if we were under UK law, they do not recognize gay marriage in the Philippines, I am not a family member, just his boyfriend at present.

2. Would I need my invitation letter we are using for the UK visa application notarized by the Philippines  embassy in london?

3. Some places say people who are visiting gf/bfs need to attend the PDOS seminar, but others say for tourist visas' that is not needed nor is it possible to do. And again, what about LGBT relationships? We are not getting married during this trip.

I heard of some filipina getting offloaded due to the affadavit of support missing the 4th civil degree of consanguinity.


I heard those with UK visas are less likely to go to secondary screening, I will be travelling with him. As it is not illegal to be gay or anything in the Philippines we are being completely honest about the trip.

Is there anything I am missing, and what do we really need to guarantee his departure from the Philippines, and if anyone else has any UK visa tips I would be grateful. I hope this post would also help any other LGBTs in the same boat if someone manages to give a meaningful reply.

What would I need to show the Philippines immigration as proof of my sponsorship? I hope me travelling with him also helps! We will be leaving from clark as he is living in pampanga. He does not live with his family but they are supportive of the relationship now (he moved out of his own free will for greater freedom as they were very restrictive, this helped them begin to open up about it and he gets on with them much better now). His family have also not once asked me for any money (nor would I be taken for a ride)!

I do hope to marry my boyfriend after next year provided all goes well which it seems to be going lovely so far (again, in the UK). He is extremely devoted and is always there and when I am there, he spoils me with affection and care and good meals :)

And while together never once did he ask me for money, on the contrary, at first he tried to pay for everything which just wasn't possible on a 9000 php salary so I in the end gave him an allowance every month to ease his quality of life (which took two months persuasion might I add to get him to accept it). He has earned it in my eyes both due to his devotion and the fact he attempts to work hard and make something for himself.

I am also guessing for future reference when we are married after next year , that a gay marriage certificate from another country wouldn't allow both of us at an airport to avail of balikbayan stamps to save me money on visa extension fees?

Thank you very much for any advice on this matter, can some fellow pinoys or expats assist here!


Thank you :)

GuestPoster5789

Hi there
I'm very intrigued by your post as    Im in a similar situation myself,but with some differences.
I want to bring my Filipino Bf to the UK,and I want to get him a tourist visa by offering to be his financial sponsor and pay for everything, including his return flight.However,he isn't working,and he has no.bank account and so I've been advised his visa application is very likely to fail.
In all honesty,I don't think.you encounter any problems whatsoever with his exit from.the Philippines.People usually find the problem is with UK immigration, and getting a UK visa. Since he is working,  and provided he has a bank accpunt,you should be okay-although the British embassy in Manila can.be quite arbitrary,as well as being incredibly unhelpful,  and refuse to answer visa enquiries. But in all likelihood,his visa should be issued.
I hope you don't mind me saying, but you are incredibly lucky to have met a filipino guy who hasn't asked for money! -95% of the filipino men I've met on.dating and social sites ask for money.If it's not too intrusive a question,where did you meet him?-I'm desperate to find a Bf who.isn't a gold digger.My current Bf constantly asks for money and asked me for £1000k today!
All the very best of luck.to you and your boyfriend and your lives together !

bigpearl

Hi Novemberbabe, when you get, I think 5 genuine posts up I can PM you or visa versa. If you follow IlikeToTravelLight's posts and mine here and on other sites then you will learn more. The other guy hasn't posted for ages and has probably moved on but worthwhile reading all you can with regards to your asks and then ask more questions. BTW my better half has been living in Oz for 5 years and working for 4 of those years, a hard yard but well worth it.

Cheers, Steve.

GuestPoster5789

Thanks for the reply.Naturally, I will lost about this, and other topics.
I'm just a bit concerned that you said "genuine posts".My post was genuine,about a real situation that's happening now....just to clarify!

bigpearl

Like what you have posted here and now and not trawling. Yes your OP was genuine like this one and one must abide by the rules of all forums. Pity the OP you answered is not, or appears to be not about these days as he is your fellow countryman and by now has info that could help. I can only help with regards to our circumstances with regards to Oz and little else,,,,,, dating sites is another story but openly admit is where I met my now partner of 7 years and love of my life but vetted many prior to meeting him and all the heartache that goes with it. Yep mate there are plenty of straight and gay dudes sitting on those sights waiting to take your hard earn't cash and move onto the next gullible purveyor. Philippines is a great country but unfortunately has scammers no different to any other country.
Good luck with your search mate. As said before "walk softly but always carry a big stick".

Cheers, Steve.

Fred

None of the posts in this thread break any rules that I've noticed.
Post #3 probably refers to the PM system's automatic anti spam software, but that shouldn't block a conversation between two members.

bigpearl

Thanks Fred for your input here. So PM is not related to the amount of posts but perhaps quality? Normally 5 contributing post before PM is available, perhaps I am wrong.
Regardless a pat on the back to the original OP for raising many different issues that may seem left field to many offer a ray of sunshine to others.

Cheers, Steve.

Fred

bigpearl wrote:

Thanks Fred for your input here. So PM is not related to the amount of posts but perhaps quality? Normally 5 contributing post before PM is available, perhaps I am wrong.
Regardless a pat on the back to the original OP for raising many different issues that may seem left field to many offer a ray of sunshine to others.

Cheers, Steve.


Send him a PM and see what happens. He should be able to reply,

bigpearl

If seriously interested he/she will reply here so all can learn and throw in their two bobs worths.

Cheers, Steve.

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