Divorcing in Brazil

I have Brazilian friends who shared their experiences with divorce...

1. They all hired a lawyer - in which case he was the one responsible for making the agreement palatable for both parties.

2. The divorce conclusion usually took about a year, papers issued by the courts on the final decree, in these cases, no court appearance just like a "no fault divorce" in the USA.

3. Brazilians have the expression: In this country, you can easily commit a crime and don´t go to jail. But the negligence of not paying child support is JAIL for sure...

4. Brazilian women want the ALIMONY. So, be very aware of the coming financial tsunami.

5. Divorce is common in Brazil. Most of my friends are Catholic but some are on their 3rd and 4th marriages.

6. Divorce is hard for anyone especially if you live in a foreign country and away from relatives. I could only say that everyone was born for a great purpose and overcoming
this big impediment only serves to reinforce your resiliency as a survivor and a winner,
deserving said purpose. Friends and colleagues who sympathize with you at this hour
of grief is really needed.

Divorce is a cottage industry out here.  As a result, you have a soaring number of informal unions. Fewer want to commit anymore.  Oddly enough, the Wedding Industry is taken on a new level of sophistication up to par with the USA.

In the US we used to quip, "She is a good housekeeper (house-keeper)"
In Brazil it translates.... "Meu bem, meus bens"  ( My darling, my possessions ).

Most foreigners are not schooled in the ways of Brazilian women, and how docile and tender they appea at first.  Aside from the legit ones, it's the siren song.  It's a trading currency.

Never married, fair disclosure, but I get a boat load of shared confidants, and they all bitch and moan just as bad as Americans do.  And some go through hell in a handbasket.

Divorce laws have been in the books since the 70's, and divorce / labor law attorneys are a dime a dozen.

sprealestatebroker wrote:

Divorce is a cottage industry out here.  As a result, you have a soaring number of informal unions. Fewer want to commit anymore.

That's been my observation, too.  For every married couple I know, I must know five or more others who never chose to formalize their relationships, even when they have been together a long time, have children, homes, etc., and don't seem to be inclined to move on.  I attribute it, at least in part, to all the divorce horror stories.

I got a divorce 2 year ago we were apart for 5 years. I hired a lawyer with the help of my presence Brazilian wife. Here are the three thing that may happen. First you both agree to divorce this will make the process go faster about 3 to 4 months. Second in my case my ex wouldn’t agree but just ignore the request. The final divorce will be from the city you were married in at the time. I filed for divorce in a different city but it went to that city I was married. If you are living in a different city I would recommend you file first. They may require you to travel to the other city if you file second. This went to a judge in my city because I filed first and he made the final divorce as uncontested. This took 6 to 7 months may have took longer but a business partner of mine knew the judge. I also met him with my wife at a party. It’s good to have friends. The last way will be the one person contest the divorce my claim alimony if there are children together.This also make it much more difficult. Not sure how long this will take or cost using a lawyer. If you have a Brazilian to help you could go easer

I was married to a Brazilian, got divorced after 5 years of married life. My ex hired a lawyer. We had to tell them that we were separated for over a year. Then it didn't take much time. They asked for at least an year separation period( as long as I remember, in fact I remember well we were separated for only a few months) Both parties went to cartorio and signed the papers. Divorce certificate took like a couple of weeks to arrive.

Boa tarde!

In my experience, it was easy and not even that expensive. The divorce was 100% amicable, so that helped. We both are okay financially so she didn't try to get any money out of me. We have a daughter together and I am more of a mother than she is so custody was easy as well (joint custody).

Just hire a lawyer and it is so much cheaper if there is no fighting. In all, if I am not mistaken, the whole thing didn't cost more than R$1,000 and because we didn't fight over anything, everything was done over e-mail and the phone.

I hope this helps, though I am aware amicable divorces are rare.

abthree wrote:

sprealestatebroker wrote:

Divorce is a cottage industry out here.  As a result, you have a soaring number of informal unions. Fewer want to commit anymore.

That's been my observation, too.  For every married couple I know, I must know five or more others who never chose to formalize their relationships, even when they have been together a long time, have children, homes, etc., and don't seem to be inclined to move on. I attribute it, at least in part, to all the divorce horror stories.

Also the decline in religion adherence surely plays a role, I would fathom.

My Brazilian  partner separated then divorced from her ex after about three years. She lived in a small town in the NE and finding lawyers or judges to attend was very hard. She did no have a lot of money to hire the best lawyers, and two cheaper lawyers have come and given up the practice of law, as well as being unable to complete the divorce and settlement process for my partner.
After a few years the divorce came through, but not the distribution of assets. She owned a small store which was their livelihood. It is now about 8 years since separation and no movement has come on a settlement over assets. She believes the ex's side are rich and this has prejudiced the procedures. No end in sight, and her pension situation without employment looks very bleak.

Well, all you readers need to be aware that a Stable Union, regardless of its legitimacy before the courts, count as good as being married.   It's called Cohabitacao.  So justice of peace papers or not, you are legally together, and the courts look into this.

Under such, you live together under the same roof for certain amount of time, you are as good as if you were married. 

And to make matters worse, if you had a child together, you are paying alimony.   No ifs or buts. 

Most Americans nag about how the typical American Women has become more and more career oriented and negleted the duties of being a wife.   Well, things changed, that is for sure, yet, unless you are snagging your wife in Southeast Asia, the Middle East, so do  not expect the stereotypical Brazilian  women by any different from a Russian ( or Ucraninan  for that matter ) Mail Order Bride.

Yes they are oversexed, and look more attractive, and at first are  less demanding, demure and sweet,  and the sex tends to be better.  But they are also very pragmatic, I would say they are a perfect American Copy Cat.

I know many of you lads are past your prime, and your prospects this side of the pond seem infinitely better, but you are not armed with the insight knowledge to read and handle them, so go for it, but act with caution. 

And as for the career enterprising type of women, we have loads of them here to. 
Somehow, you will need to get along the program, or else, if you do not fit the mold, you too will be cast aside, not before they take you for what you are worth. 

So do your due dilligence, hide your funds, play along, get dovey, but watch the patterns. 

And, let me stand corrected, not all women are like that. These pieces of advice are generalizations.  Good and bad partners are everywhere. 

Old advice from an USA Immigration Attorney, who did a lot of these unions, Esq Joel Stuart, I believe, if he did not die from a heart attack, still practices law in Florida, whom I at once consulted about bringing a Brazilian female prospect,....   meet your women in the right places. The old fashion Church, Library, through acquantainces.   It works most of the time.

We agreed on everthing, gave her the house ,paid the lawyer, flew to Belem place of Marriage , it took about 4 hours mostly running from one office to another office. Bought 20 liters of Acai Puro, the former wife handled the purchase and helped me pack it, escorted me to the airport said our goodbye a wink and a nod...I still send the chick a little cash for we knew we married to soon....the best thing I can say is take your time when choosing a mate...cost of Lawyer 1500r and maybe 500r for document processing...Divorce papers in hand the same day......

Grizz,
You really managed it well - and were lucky, too.  Congrats again. 
Re: açaí.  Be careful to get it from reputable places.  Here in Amazonas, there have been reports this year of people getting Chagas Disease from fresh acaí prepared in unsanitary conditions.   The assassin bugs ("barbeiros"; "kissing bugs") that carry the disease hang out in the trees, and some get crushed with the fruit when it's processed.   Nasty, incurable disease, and hard to diagnose when it's contracted that way rather than through a bite.  So be on guard.

Gotcha on the Acai, maybe I shouldn't let the former wife buy it...lol...nawl she lies the monthly payment...lol..thanks for the heads up. I usally buy from people I know and if I see a lot of water I exit stage left...lmbo...I wouldn't buy it at Ver o Peso...There is a joint across the street from there that has the Puro. In Belem Acai vendors are like Bars and Churches in Alaska one on every corner...lol...I either buy in Marimbia or Anniduei and the places are clean and the folks wash and Wash and Wash the berries, it should be in Season now so everybody is trying to make a quick buck. I usally can find it for about 6.00 to 8.00 a kilo , I had to pay 15.00 per kilo in March for it was out of Season and the gal wanted 20.00, she was happy to get that 15.00r for the quantity. .She averages 10.00r a kilo in Season and there is a line for her Acai. I am glad for the information for I will go to Para State to purchase maybe not Belem. ...lol...and I wonder why not...I understand sanitation..I look for the people in pure white protective clothing and if I see one drop of Acai on the clothing I exit stage right...kkk....I'm good enjoying Bahia and Permabucho,  we have boat that goes across the river and it's free for Seniors and one day I made the mistake and took the bus, never again it was 5 hours for a 15 minute trip across the river...accident on the bridge and the lookie looers where in full force and I be like it's just a accident no one hurt yet we must gawk...and the bus driver was auugggghhhhhh ....

I want to move to Brazil. Can I get your WhatsApp number?

I am interested to marry to a Brazilian. Can I get your WhatsApp number?

Ha ha! Yeah, your eyes tell me you´re really serious! But this is not the place to look for a future mate... I would suggest a Brazilian dating site. Lots of them... I´ll leave that responsibility to you!

Fala bem Português para encarar os  encontros?

And you are out of topic!!!!

I have already got a girl fried here.
So, I asked you. Is it real to get citizenship by marrying a Brazilian?

Yes!

Are you living in Brazil?

sayemsonai wrote:

I have already got a girl fried here.
So, I asked you. Is it real to get citizenship by marrying a Brazilian?

Most of the people responding are Residents of Brasil, either by Marriage, Child, or Lots of Investment money...

This Post is about Divorce and What it Takes to Divorce..

It seems you are "Only Interested in Citizenship" so you may need this Post in the Future.

Residency is Differant than Citizenship.

I recommend you Google : Marrying a Brazilian Citizen:, Google is my Amigo (kkk/lol)...

I also Recommend you look at the Bangladesh and Brazilan Embassies "On Marrying a Brazilian or Foreign National"..

I no have a phone so I have no Whatsapp. .....

I also Recommend looking on Expat.com and in the Query Box on the Right of the Screen put in your Questions.....Wish you luck and in your spare time look in to Customs and Traditions of Brasilians....

I am curios as to why Your Girlfriend is no Helping You with this matter?????.

All said. You will need to come on tourist visa, marry and apply for a CRNM. Once approved you may live in Brazil, Citizenship is much longer and harder.
Have girl friend go to PF and get the information you will need to obtain. (Lots of paperwork)
Will need everything translate and legalized, will need Official Police back ground check (translated and must not expire 90 day before application) and have an address in brazil and a utility bill in your name. Will need to show how you will pay for being in Brazil. (Bank records and such)
(Know Portuguese, expect 3 months after approved)
Be aware Brasil is being strict as to convivence marriages.
PS. Tip: Do not ask for personal info......

Grizz you can have my Acai tree in my front jardim. Dang messy thing and unpicked berries are good for a sling shot to hunt doves.

Texanbrazil wrote:

Grizz you can have my Acai tree in my front jardim. Dang messy thing and unpicked berries are good for a sling shot to hunt doves.

Find a kid, have him pick the berries, have him take them to the processor, freeze the Puro and I will pick it up when we come in July...lol...Acai ,ahhh the joy, with sugar, tapioca, bananas,granola...lol..
I have 2 liters left, it's time for a road trip...I need 50 liters...4real...the folks here have the frozen sorbet/ice cream type and it's anything but Puro...lol..I gave a few half liters to a couple of people and they had never had pure pulp...I like to give it as gifts and bribes...lol...the guy at grocery store gives me his discount, the guys in my  Lady.👄 running group takes her for free to various marathon recently to Salvador...now see if Azul will ship the tree on your tab and we're good...lol..thanks for helping the off topic guy...I know my former wife will come for the tree...back on topic...lol

I must be hallucinating... Is that a cancer stick
between your fingers Grizz? You must be really
bored to go on cultivating neoplasms as a hobby. LOL!

Tex,
Your wife should know how to make Acai derivatives. Very delicious indeed. It's a superfood full of antioxidants.

robal wrote:

I must be hallucinating... Is that a cancer stick
between your fingers Grizz? You must be really
bored to go on cultivating neoplasms as a hobby. LOL!

That was before I quit, I think I was in Mexico, Jalesico State, with some very bad people, then I found out the Japanese have the Highest rate of Smokers in the world and Lowest  rate cancer than any Country in the World..So I picked back up the habit and it's not Cancer till its reported, the Doctor said my lungs were clear and all was good, then I asked her did she hear my heart murmur. ...@64 years of age, maybe one day I will grow up....keeping it real in Brasil....kkk
I think Cancer is a plot against the Big Tobacco...my former wife didn't like it either, just keeping with the Topic...smdh...

Grizz,
I hope you're taking your Vitamin V. No, not the Vicissitude one! Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor and it inhibits blood flow to...
you know where!

robal wrote:

Tex,
Your wife should know how to make Acai derivatives. Very delicious indeed. It's a superfood full of antioxidants.

Yup , it is a good antioxidant....and also a sleep inducee.my forder wif liked to.......after we had a liter...

robal wrote:

Grizz,
I hope you're taking your Vitamin V. No, not the Vicissitude one! Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor and it inhibits blood flow to...
you know where!

All things are flowing as a matter of fact that's part of the reason for vitamin V, it keeps everything flowing ...lol...I also lift weights on it to increase my muscle mass....vicissitudes are us...Hey did I ever tell you I was on a plane with Pfizer rep and he was on way to a Vascilating Party in Vegas, so he says all 3 ED meds have the time same side effects, the rule is it sits in the body for 36 hours...........lol..my former wife liked that factoid...just keeping on Topic...lmbo...
The Doctors and advertising say 4-8 hours there lying and that's why a lot people aren't here today took to much to soon and failed to understand Proper Dosage....Dosing is important. .Timing is everything. ..

Oh yeah she picks a bushel and takes to Mai and sisters come and eat from tree. (I laugh when thy pick the lower ones, My pup loves to pee on that tree.) Good dog! She make juices and popsicles.
It is the left overs that become so hard and I have to rake before I mow.

hahaha, açai, berries and vitamins... kids picking the berries. That is definitely an out-of -topic... kkk but very funny

sergiobotinha wrote:

hahaha, açai, berries and vitamins... kids picking the berries. That is definitely an out-of -topic... kkk but very funny

We Entertain and Enlighten...lol....my former wife liked kids, berries and vitamins...once the former or marriage is mentioned it's back on topic..smh..lol..

Big Tex you usung a Electric mower...lol...have some ones former wife come rack the berries, so I guess that means no Puro...lol...I love the way one rushes to wash the color off if it hits clothing, my former wife was good with laundry...rotflbo...

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