Can i get visa of indonesia without Bank account ?
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Hi to everyone, I'm from pakistan living in UAE Sharjah , i want to go indonesia as a visitor , can i get visa for indonesia from UAE without bank account . I read alot of line about A bank statement as a required Dacuments, but i don't have bank account yet. Can anyone help me regarding this Question.
Citizens of some countries are asked to provide proof they can support themselves without working for the duration of their stay. That may not mean a bank account, but that be an obvious option.
Other reasons may be to prove you are working and have a regular income, thus not coming to Indonesia to work illegally.
You should contact the nearest Indonesian embassy for clarification.
Thanks alot , it's seems like , i can't come indonesia without these proves ...
Another Question , actually i have a friend in indonesia and we really want to marry .. is there any solution for this , i also wanna live there permanently. Is there any advice for these ?
You could also consider getting married in Pakistan. It might be a lot easier for your girlfriend to get a visa to you there.
Or alternatively, why not open a bank account in Pakistan, transfer all your money into it, and three months later use the bank statement for your visa application to visit Indonesia.
Life is not always as easy as we hope, but there are usually ways to reach our goals.
Can i marry to her just on visit visa ? Or there need another visa for nikah , i also wanna stay there .
And i also wanna business there , i have almost 7 to 8 lacs pkr , is there a good advice ?
Azam Afzal wrote:And i also wanna business there , i have almost 7 to 8 lacs pkr , is there a good advice ?
That is well below the minimum investment required to open a PMA, but enough for your spose to open a small shop in a village. Profits would be very small.
Azam Afzal wrote:Another Question , actually i have a friend in indonesia and we really want to marry .. is there any solution for this , i also wanna live there permanently. Is there any advice for these ?
You'll need a visa, and that requires a sponsor.
Your future wife can be a sponsor
You'll need a pile of documents such as passport, ID card (PK), and a couple of thousand US$ (check the number) in provable funds.
Once married, you will probably have to prove you and/or your wife can support yourselves so may have to prove funds before being granted a limited stay permit (KITAS).
It's unlikely to be an easy process.
Bro , I'm talking about 70-80 millions indonesian rupees. I have heard from someone that could help you for hotel , Fast food corner or something like that .
Azam Afzal wrote:Bro , I'm talking about 70-80 millions indonesian rupees. I have heard from someone that could help you for hotel , Fast food corner or something like that .
Youve heard wrong Bro
Asalaamu alaikum brother
1million Indonesian rupiah is only US$100.
Sad to say when we go home as I call Indonesia my home we spend that in less than a month.
Sonnyag6 wrote:Asalaamu alaikum brother
1million Indonesian rupiah is only US$100.
Sad to say when we go home as I call Indonesia my home we spend that in less than a month.
I spend 700,00 per week on shopping, not including the mid week stuff we sometimes run out of, veggie from the market, and take away food.
By the way, a million is more like $61 at the moment
Azam Afzal wrote:Bro , I'm talking about 70-80 millions indonesian rupees. I have heard from someone that could help you for hotel , Fast food corner or something like that .
There are plenty of houses for rent at Rp80 million/year. Your Indonesian spouse could start a micro business on that sort of money, but a foreigner can't.
Azam Afzal wrote:Can i marry to her just on visit visa ? Or there need another visa for nikah , i also wanna stay there .
I got married in Indonesia on just a tourist visa. We got everything done in BSD City. Moving to live in Indonesia is something different. I was living in Kuala Lumpur at the time and after the marriage and wedding we both lived in Malaysia for many years, before deciding to move to Indonesia.
Azam Afzal wrote:Bro , I'm talking about 70-80 millions indonesian rupees. I have heard from someone that could help you for hotel , Fast food corner or something like that .
If you are married and if you can get a long term stay permit, then you could look for a job in a restaurant or other place, and use your savings to pay for house rent and then start a small business in your wife's name. The cost of renting a house varies from town to town and how close you are to the town centre but if you are not picky and don't mind living in a small place then you could easily find a place for below Rp20 million per year in places like BSD City. Of course that's assuming you meet the requirements to get a KITAS once you are married.
Also, if you are sure that you want to live in Indonesia forever, then you could consider renouncing your own nationality and becoming Indonesia like some of the posters in this forum have done, although you'd need to wait some years before you can do that. I used to know the Law & Human Rights Director in my area and he always brought this up whenever we met so it's something the authorities seem to like.
Shill88 wrote:If you are married and if you can get a long term stay permit, then you could look for a job in a restaurant or other place...
...and use your savings to pay for house rent and then start a small business in your wife's name....
...you could consider renouncing your own nationality and becoming Indonesia like some of the posters in this forum have done,
This is wrong in most ways, and misses out important information for the rest.
You can get part time informal work on a spouse sponsored KITAP a permit you get after 2 years if you meet the rules (Some say KITAS as well). or you can run a small business, but getting a KITAP takes longer than you have as the money you say you have won't last long enough, thus the point has to be ignored. If you use what you have to open a business in your spouse's name, it'll be a micro business with micro profits in a country with a lot of people doing the same thing, thus splitting the customer base too much. Many small businesses tend to go bust quickly for that reason.
Rents can be very cheap in villages, down as low as 5 or 10 million/year, but you'll be out of the way and the house probably won't be all that good. Then add food and so on, and 80 million won't last long, maybe a year, perhaps two if you stick to basics.
The bit about Indonesian citizenship is pie in the sky at this point as It takes a lot of years and is quite difficult. The number granted citizenship every year is tiny, and you have to meet a lot of criteria before you can even apply.
It isn't some posters who have been granted citizenship, it's one poster, and one of not very many expats to manage it.
I don't know the exact number of posters who have given up their own nationality to become Indonesian. I thought it was around three but I may be wrong, it could be more of course since probably not everyone makes an announcement about doing it.
The reason that I have never done this is because I am British and I see many advantages in retaining my UK citizenship and I may well return to live in the UK when I get old.
For sure western people dont have any advantage to change their nationalty to Indonesian, they would loose a lot of privileges and services in their Country that they would not have witth indonesian nationality, but maybe for a Pakistan it worth.
Aniway the conditions required are very selective, here they are:
Conditions of Indonesian Citizenship Application according to Article 9 of the Citizenship Law, the conditions to be fulfilled in order to obtain Indonesian citizenship are as follows:
18 years old or already married;
Upon applying already residing in the territory of the Republic of Indonesia for at
least 5 (five) consecutive years or at least 10 years in a row;
Physically and mentally healthy;
Able to speak Indonesian and recognize the basic state of Pancasila and the constitution of the State of the Republic of Indonesia Year 1945;
Never been sentenced for committing a criminal offense punishable by imprisonment of 1 (one) year or more;
If by obtaining the Citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, it does not become a dual nationality;
Have a job and/or a fixed income; and
Pay the nationality to the State Treasury.
About to get a job, its not a matter of the type of Visa u stay in Indonesia, just no way to get any in positions that can be filled by a local, only high specialized position are allowed to stranger.
Marcello Manganese wrote:For sure western people dont have any advantage to change their nationalty to Indonesian, they would loose a lot of privileges and services in their Country that they would not have witth indonesian nationality, but maybe for a Pakistan it worth.
There can be advantages for some, especially if there's nothing of worth for you to return to in your home country AND you fully intend to remain in Indonesia until the day you die.
As the above fits me, there are plenty of advantages to dumping by birth citizenship and taking up one in a country I dearly love.
My family, thus my whole life, is here - and I like it a lot.
However, the point made earlier about citizenship for someone in the OP's position remains pretty ludicrous as it isn't possible for many years and the OP will have long since run out of cash before they have a hope of applying.
Marcello Manganese wrote:About to get a job, its not a matter of the type of Visa u stay in Indonesia, just no way to get any in positions that can be filled by a local, only high specialized position are allowed to stranger.
True, and the mention of business is pretty much impossible anyway. It would be perfectly reasonable, if the member can get a KITAS, to fund a spouse's business, but the limited profits likely to be generated are hardly enough to live on.
Marcello, I agree with you, but most important is not to renounce your original citizenship especially if you come from a western country. I know many expats in my area, and one has simply had enough after being married to a local for 27 years. He has a family here but he is just kind of fed up with Indonesia and his wife gained a lot and his children are already in their late teens. Now he plans to return back to the UK alone. For him, lucky he kept his British nationality. So I agree with you very much as I think you just never know what will happen in the future. Also I reckon that if you are a Caucasian, you will always be considered as a "Bule" no matter how long you have lived in Indonesia as an Indonesian citizen.
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