COVID 19 (CORONA VIRUS) UPDATES FOR ALL NATIONALITIES & STATUS

VietCanada wrote:

Damn Brits!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WHSkbM9zAU

I read that patient 271 was a "relapse" case, having tested positive and then negative after quarantine while still in the UK.  He then tested positive here and was quarantined.  All of these relapse cases seem to be merely pieces of dead virus -- the tests cannot discern live from dead.

paulmsn wrote:

I read that patient 271 was a "relapse" case, having tested positive and then negative after quarantine while still in the UK.  He then tested positive here and was quarantined.  All of these relapse cases seem to be merely pieces of dead virus -- the tests cannot discern live from dead.

Yeah, I read a couple of articles about that this morning from different sources including the WHO.
It's dead lung tissue maybe being expelled that still has live virus in it. Not contagious.

This is an interesting read from Canada's CBC TV network.

It's about Canada but it could apply anywhere.

Except here in VN where from what I can see people are behaving as if the pandemic is over and we won. To be fair VN is one of the countries that has done well containing the virus and people do need money. Canada has a few of programs that give money to people who lost their income due to Covid measures. Expats can borrow up to 5000 CND to cover expenses for them and their immediate families to get home.

The pandemic paradox: Canadians asked to go out and face threat that kept them inside for weeks

Here are some excerpts:

"The virus hasn't changed, but the message has.

It's a pandemic paradox: The nasty pathogen that drove us inside is still spreading — but now we're told it's time to go out and face the risk.

This should not come as a complete surprise. That's because the social distancing policies were aimed at protecting hospitals, not individuals. The goal was to keep everyone from getting sick all at once — a population-wide policy intended to slow the spread.

"You could adopt risk-averse life strategies that would make it less likely that you're going to get infected," said Gardam. "Now that we've had two months' experience with this, you could definitely do things that would dramatically decrease your risk."

"But there is no such thing as eliminating the risk.""

Some fun facts: About half of all Corona virus deaths in Canada are from nursing homes.

Some regions of Canada have had no infections or no deaths.

The largest single outbreak in NA was at a meat processing plant in Cargil (sp.), Alberta.

Funny how as you get older how certain things or news take on a personal significance in life. Just heard on the news that Roy, of Siegfried & Roy fame has just died of the Corona virus. Saw their show at the Mirage Las Vegas in 2001, prior to 09/11 you had to book like 1 year in advance but because of 9/11 we got seats & what a show that was....absolutely fn amazing!!
2003 one of the White tigers attacked him on stage, he never worked again.
Survived the tiger but the virus got him! RIP Roy

VietCanada wrote:

The largest single outbreak in NA was at a meat processing plant in Cargil (sp.), Alberta.

It's twp "l''s.  An old Scottish name i believe.  I may be proved wrong but after all the meatpacking scandals are over, Cargill will prove to be maybe the most ethical company.  The real problem is the nature of the work.  To separate the workers they will need to slow down the line which will have to be made up for with in higher prices for meat as a given facility produces half as much.  No company wants to be the first to slow down so they are all waiting for government to mandate it for all of them.  That's not going to happen in the US.  Maybe it will in Canada.

https://zingnews.vn/cap-thi-thuc-dien-t … 88832.html

Easier in english:
http://news.gov.vn/Home/Govt-to-issue-e … /40248.vgp


So, e-visa for 80 countries and they can cross the borders with it (airport, land and port).
Borders should then open the 1 July~

This will be tough on the agents and visa on arrival companies.

https://thuvienphapluat.vn/van-ban/quye … 43597.aspx

Just asked my wife to read that 79/NQ-CP 2020 law. But it doesn't say that the visitors can come back on the 1st July. Restrictions are still the same.
The law is just about the e-visa that will be available to 80 countries on the 1st July.

Visitors with e-visas can enter Viet Nam at eight international airports, or arrive via land at 16 international border gates and via sea at 13 ports across the country.

I think they just meant to say: e-visa is a valid document, considered the same as a classical visa.

But well... with that new law, we can expect new announcement soon

THIGV wrote:

This will be tough on the agents and visa on arrival companies.

Maybe the govt has decided to cut out the middle man.
The vultures who do the extensions will still prosper.

Looks like the US consulate will be opening up starting June 1 for non-emergency appointments.  I hope they start immigration VISA interviews soon.  USICS is opening June 4 and supposedly consulates will start to open at that time based on a case-by-case basis in each country.   I would think Vietnam should be at the top of the list for being safe to open.

https://vn.usembassy.gov/limited-americ … ng-june-1/

SteinNebraska wrote:

Looks like the US consulate will be opening up starting June 1 for non-emergency appointments.  I hope they start immigration VISA interviews soon.  USICS is opening June 4 and supposedly consulates will start to open at that time based on a case-by-case basis in each country.   I would think Vietnam should be at the top of the list for being safe to open.

https://vn.usembassy.gov/limited-americ … ng-june-1/

I just got this info from travel agent
https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.p … 88#4878825

From a very highly reliable inside source just minutes ago:

- The country will definitely be opened on July 1.

- That's the only sure thing.

- Whether quarantine is still in place, whether tourists can travel freely on their own, whether health report and travel itinerary are required, whether a declaration of presence is mandatory at UBND, etc. are still under discussion or to be discussed.

Just saw this from Visa agent I used to get visa for Ms My to go to Hong Kong last time. Dont know how official his info is but looks like things are starting to happen.

AlexFromBelgium wrote:

Easier in english:
http://news.gov.vn/Home/Govt-to-issue-e … /40248.vgp


So, e-visa for 80 countries and they can cross the borders with it (airport, land and port).
Borders should then open the 1 July~

Apparently the government felt the need to clarify the announcement:

expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=896258

then it confirms my post #210

edit:
confirmation from the VN gov:
http://news.gov.vn/Home/Steering-Commit … /40278.vgp

Big thumbs up to all the Vietnamese doctors & nurses that managed to bring him through


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So it seems that VN and JP are going to ease travel restrictions between the two countries.

http://news.gov.vn/Home/VN-Japan-agree- … /40501.vgp

So wonderful, well done to all at Cho Ray Hospital https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/briti … 18337.html

I hope this is posted in the proper thread.  I was criticized in another thread for expressing the opinion that countries may begin to ban entry from the US due to the poor level of control.  The EU which presently has a universal entry ban, is now likely as of 1 July to allow entry from certain countries.  It appears likely that the US, Russia, and Brazil will specifically be excluded.  The article is based on a draft of the proposal obtained by the paper.  Vietnam was specifically mentioned in the article, and presumably the draft regulation, as a country whose citizens will be allowed entry.  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/worl … e=Homepage  (Note:  The NY Times has a firewall but allows 10 articles a month.)  This may assist those who are hoping to return to EU countries from Vietnam.

Great thanks I bought a plane ticket from Canada to Vietnam for July 36 Fully refunded if they cancel flights

Even the borders between the US & Canada are closed, so it's normal the US are waiting a little more long to go anywhere even to Europe.
Remember the first country to close the borders was the USA. They closed with Europe in 48 hours. After, all the Asian countries copied the USA, so Vietnam closed too its borders with all the other countries. Asia copies the USA, and the idea to close the borders is a Trump's idea©.

FabriceVN wrote:

Asia copies the USA, and the idea to close the borders is a Trump's idea©.

Here is the information on the 40,000 who entered the US after Trump instituted the travel ban from China.  The information is available from several sources but here is a link from Fox News as that should satisfy your apparent mind set.  Maybe when you announce closing the border is not as important as how effectively you close it.

Looks like nothing changing anytime soon on tourists.

https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/202 … 55260.html

THIGV wrote:

FabriceVN wrote:

Asia copies the USA, and the idea to close the borders is a Trump's idea©.

Here is the information on the 40,000 who entered the US after Trump instituted the travel ban from China.  The information is available from several sources but here is a link from Fox News as that should satisfy your apparent mind set.  Maybe when you announce closing the border is not as important as how effectively you close it.

I can say from first hand experience that there was little, if any, control at Dulles Airport in Washington DC. I arrived back from VN on March 2nd, and no one at the airport asked me any questions related to COVID-19. At that time, the virus was blowing up in Italy and Iran. My connecting flight was through Qatar and had many people connecting there from China. On that day, there were only 75 infections reported in the US.

Could be the start of interesting times for some anyways. Surprised no one in this forum has picked up on it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV9M-ZGtBNg

goodolboy wrote:

Could be the start of interesting times for some anyways. Surprised no one in this forum has picked up on it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV9M-ZGtBNg

Probably because Eli The Bike Guy makes really boring videos, full of speculation and weak on substance...

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Some of the comments on his videos give me a good laugh, especially the video about VN policing.

colinoscapee wrote:

Some of the comments on his videos give me a good laugh, especially the video about VN policing.

Yea some of his stuff is pretty cringe worthy, think he is playing to a certain lets say "audience" not necessarily members of his forum, if you know what I mean

Hummmmmmm, Funny really, with probably the most devastating world event taking place up to now in the 21st century the lack of discussion on this forum about it & how it will effect us all where ever we end up in the world is quite puzzling & scary & dont even mention China's involvement in it!!! just by mentioning China on here I am at risk of being banned!!

OceanBeach92107 wrote:

Probably because Eli The Bike Guy makes really boring videos, full of speculation and weak on substance...

Didn't you post a video or a link to one here once?  Perhaps you can put it up again so that we can compare it to Eli.

colinoscapee wrote:

Some of the comments on his videos give me a good laugh, especially the video about VN policing.

Yeah....and also his statement that  it’s” illegal for News/ Media outlets to print anything that isn’t True.“

When does the press or media anywhere ever tell the truth 🤔

THIGV wrote:

OceanBeach92107 wrote:

Probably because Eli The Bike Guy makes really boring videos, full of speculation and weak on substance...

Didn't you post a video or a link to one here once?  Perhaps you can put it up again so that we can compare it to Eli.

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At a time when the whole world is fighting the biggest threat to our health, wealth & security so far this century, we might take heart in a historic story that started 80 years ago yesterday July 10th 1940 when a small island off mainland Europe stood alone against the biggest threat to the world & humanity last century. July 10th 2020 marks the official start of 80th anniversary Battle of Britain Day.
Now its the Corona Virus we all have to defeat, then it was a virus of a different kind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4BVzYGeF0M

3 cheers & a big thank you to Vietnam & all its health care specialists, doctors, nurses, all hospital staff who took care of Mr Cameron & turned what started as a potential  horror story into a very happy ending. No country in the world could have done better I think!
When all looked lost they stuck to their task & pulled him through, https://vietnamnet.vn/en/society/covid- … 56949.html

Aukland NZ just going back into lock down, first cases detected in NZ in more than 100 days.

oh oh

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/hcmc- … 99444.html