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Contem talk

Here the flight schedule until next month if you are lucky then you can try on it.

https://imgur.com/s9vPO5l

hdgh29

Yes a name card.

PANDIAND

Hi..

Vietnam is so perfect to travel

But unless other countries allow to land the passenger aircrafts, they can't do anything. Now only operating for standing passengers

OceanBeach92107

hdgh29 wrote:

I wonder what the criteria is for business manager? I could be a business manager if all it takes is a business card, a suit and a briefcase......


...and ₫3,000,000,000 VNĐ

PANDIAND

Here you can't do any comfort business directly by any foreigners. The government protect their citizens.

If you marry and local girl, then you can do the business in her name but not with your name.

There are plenty avenue for business but need to marry a good girl..

SteinNebraska

PANDIAND wrote:

Here you can't do any comfort business directly by any foreigners. The government protect their citizens.

If you marry and local girl, then you can do the business in her name but not with your name.

There are plenty avenue for business but need to marry a good girl..


All three of your statements are completely, totally incorrect but I no longer want to argue with people who are wrong about this topic.

Ciambella

PANDIAND wrote:

Here you can't do any comfort business directly by any foreigners. The government protect their citizens.

If you marry and local girl, then you can do the business in her name but not with your name.

There are plenty avenue for business but need to marry a good girl..


Wherever you get your information, repel it immediately.  Everything in your post is so wrong, incorrect, inaccurate, erroneous, and untrue it shouldn't be written.

If you're truly "working near Da Nang for the last 7 years as consultant in a government oil industry" as you claimed in another thread, you should know better than spouting nonsense on a forum such as this one where we don't tolerate the purported spreading of false information.

Consider this your first flag.

Vmex

Abear2000 wrote:

How do you know this? I am trying to get into Vietnam now but cannot find a flight I am in USA thanks for any help


In what part of the USA? I found flights but they are expensive, try united or ana, I'm flying back to VN from Brazil on the 2nd of June with Turkish airways, the cheapest one.
Good Luck

QuidProQuo

I heard that Vietnam has an open land border policy with China during the pandemic? Chinese are free to cross without any restrictions.

kallouche

hdgh29 wrote:

Not sure why you need to adopt a sarcastic tone with inverted commas, either reply helpfully or move on. A better question might be....where did you hear about the open border with China? I haven't seen any news about that.


All tourist visas are suspended so nobody can apply and enter VN with tourist visa.
Good luck😁

THIGV

hdgh29 wrote:

A better question might be....where did you hear about the open border with China? I haven't seen any news about that.


It does seem contrary to both official pronouncements and a general historic dislike of Chinese in the general population.  Perhaps the actual story is that a few Chinese have bribed there way past border checkpoints.  That would not really be an open border, but it would be a cause for real concern.

stevenjb2020

Saw a YouTube blurp, India is suppose to resume flights into the country May 25.

THIGV

stevenjb2020 wrote:

Saw a YouTube blurp, India is suppose to resume flights into the country May 25.


Do you mean flights from India into Vietnam?  If so, Just great.  India has a climbing rates of both infection and death with no signs of letting up and the potential to get way worse given the high levels of poverty and crowded living conditions in the cities.  Just the kind of country you want to open up to.

Jlgarbutt

hdgh29 wrote:

I wonder what the criteria is for business manager? I could be a business manager if all it takes is a business card, a suit and a briefcase......


Don't quote me but from past research if you can have written documentary evidence you have held a manager's position in a company for the last five years it can change things.

Before I came here some slightly dodgy agent said just have your company prepare a letter on headed paper stating your position within the company and get it certified by a solicitor then they can get it legalised .. all sounded a. It iffy to me

stevenjb2020

THIGV wrote:
stevenjb2020 wrote:

Saw a YouTube blurp, India is suppose to resume flights into the country May 25.


Do you mean flights from India into Vietnam?  If so, Just great.  India has a climbing rates of both infection and death with no signs of letting up and the potential to get way worse given the high levels of poverty and crowded living conditions in the cities.  Just the kind of country you want to open up to.


The YouTube blurp was just a blurp. It stated flights to India. I see now online that domestic flights in India will be resuming. International flights into and out of India are being considered.

I did a price check, round trip from the US to Taipei, economy - $2000+ yikes.

THIGV

Jlgarbutt wrote:

I read the land crossing thing also, but at the time was restricted to registered truck drivers only - simply to get freight moving I guess.


Vietnam is in the unenviable position of being in conflict, both modern and traditional, with China while at the same time being very dependent on China for commerce.   Although surpassed by the US for exports, the China export trade is still 16%, while imports from China are a massive 27%.   https://wits.worldbank.org/countrysnapshot/en/VNM  They pretty much have to let the trucks through.

THIGV

stevenjb2020 wrote:

The YouTube blurp was just a blurp. It stated flights to India. I see now online that domestic flights in India will be resuming. International flights into and out of India are being considered.


That sounds a lot better.   Anyone who wants to go into the world's next hot spot is free to do so.  Of course the US is the world's worst place statistically and maybe actually.

Jlgarbutt

The whole world especially the west has handled covid very badly. Maybe thats the reason why the US and parts of Europe have had higher cases and fatalities.

Airlines are shedding aircraft like the end of the world. Air france / KLM have announced their entire A380 fleet is beinf retired. Sure bigger planes cost more to buy and fly, do the need to fill every seat is critical. But these planes are pretty new..

hdgh29

Yeah, makes you realise what a fragile civilisation we have. A flu type virus with a 2% death rate and the world is on its knees - imagine if it was something worse? We would go the way of the ancient Greeks and Romans, and the Khmer empire....scary thought.
Anyway, apparently Cambodia is reopening to incoming travelers, with certain provisos - hopefully Vietnam and Thailand will follow suit soon.

cruisemonkey

We should all be taking courses in flint knapping and how to start a fire with two sticks.

Jlgarbutt

Just popped up on news feed

record 106,000 new COVID-19 infections were reported across the world on Tuesday, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has announced, with two-thirds of new cases observed in just four countries.

https://www.euronews.com/amp/2020/05/20 … -a-day-who

Contem talk

Vmex wrote:
Abear2000 wrote:

How do you know this? I am trying to get into Vietnam now but cannot find a flight I am in USA thanks for any help


In what part of the USA? I found flights but they are expensive, try united or ana, I'm flying back to VN from Brazil on the 2nd of June with Turkish airways, the cheapest one.
Good Luck


Before you come to VN to make sure you bring PCR reports with you to enter VN. The reports should have taken within three days before entering to VN.

andidips

THIGV wrote:
stevenjb2020 wrote:

Saw a YouTube blurp, India is suppose to resume flights into the country May 25.


Do you mean flights from India into Vietnam?  If so, Just great.  India has a climbing rates of both infection and death with no signs of letting up and the potential to get way worse given the high levels of poverty and crowded living conditions in the cities.  Just the kind of country you want to open up to.


COVID infections are yet to reach its peak in India. Number of fresh infections and deaths are climbing. Total infections are over 115,000 and death is around 3,600 as of today.

India is divided into four zones green, orange, red and containment zones with containment zones being the worst affected. All major cities like Mumbai, Pune, Delhi and Chennai are in containment zone.

Domestic flights at 10% frequency and 30% occupancy are scheduled to start from May 25th ONLY between cities in green and orange zones. There are no discussions yet on international arrivals and departures.

National carrier is operating flights FROM select international locations ONLY for repatriating stranded domestic fliers.

jayrozzetti23

Vietnam eyes tourism revival with select openings for foreign visitors

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/travel/pla … 03323.html

Some excerpts:

Nguyen Trung Khanh, director of the Vietnam National Administration of Tourism (VNAT), said the industry is preparing plans to welcome visitors from countries and territories that have responded effectively to the pandemic.

Tourism officials will submit to the government a schedule for gradually easing visa restrictions and resuming some international flight routes.
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Khanh said in case the pandemic is contained by September in some key source markets, VNAT will propose relaxing restrictions and the re-launching of promotions to attract visitors from these markets. "If this happens, Southeast and Northeast Asia will be the first markets to be targeted by VNAT’s promotion programs in the fourth quarter."

The tourism administration stated that it was preparing plans to welcome foreign tourists in anticipation of recovery and disease control in key markets like South Korea, mainland China, Japan, Taiwan and several ASEAN members.

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Ken Atkinson, vice chairman of the Vietnam Tourism Advisory Board, said the first countries to target could be Australia and New Zealand, which are responding well to the Covid-19 crisis.

"However, as China and Korea are our two biggest inbound source markets it is important to have plans in place to reopen travel from those markets as soon as it is safe," he said.

Atkinson told at a tourism meeting Thursday that Vietnam can consult Australia, New Zealand, and Thailand on opening separate resorts for foreign tourists to ensure their safety.

AUStan

johnross23 wrote:

Vietnam eyes tourism revival with select openings for foreign visitors

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/travel/pla … 03323.html

Some excerpts:

Nguyen Trung Khanh, director of the Vietnam National Administration of Tourism (VNAT), said the industry is preparing plans to welcome visitors from countries and territories that have responded effectively to the pandemic.

Tourism officials will submit to the government a schedule for gradually easing visa restrictions and resuming some international flight routes.
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Khanh said in case the pandemic is contained by September in some key source markets, VNAT will propose relaxing restrictions and the re-launching of promotions to attract visitors from these markets. "If this happens, Southeast and Northeast Asia will be the first markets to be targeted by VNAT’s promotion programs in the fourth quarter."

The tourism administration stated that it was preparing plans to welcome foreign tourists in anticipation of recovery and disease control in key markets like South Korea, mainland China, Japan, Taiwan and several ASEAN members.

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Ken Atkinson, vice chairman of the Vietnam Tourism Advisory Board, said the first countries to target could be Australia and New Zealand, which are responding well to the Covid-19 crisis.

"However, as China and Korea are our two biggest inbound source markets it is important to have plans in place to reopen travel from those markets as soon as it is safe," he said.

Atkinson told at a tourism meeting Thursday that Vietnam can consult Australia, New Zealand, and Thailand on opening separate resorts for foreign tourists to ensure their safety.



Thanks for the link John, wow, good new for Aussies, I'll be the first sleeping on my bags at the airport waiting for my airplane .. I hope they will start flights in near future, every country needs to get economy going..I hope to meet all of you guys soon, my original plan was moving to VN on May 20...Life can be tricky, you never know...I hope this time dreams will come true

Jlgarbutt

Based on the free visa extension for month I'm guessing earliest would be July before borders open.. just a guess

kallouche

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Based on the free visa extension for month I'm guessing earliest would be July before borders open.. just a guess


I do not think so!
September IL all goes well for some South East Asian countries?
I think good...step by step...no need to rush till the pandemic is not under control in Europe and US.

Jlgarbutt

US and EU will not be anywhere near under control by the end of the year. A record number of new cases in just three EU countries announced yesterday. Check the WHO website.

As for VN. Recently announced that anyone arriving here after 1st March 2020 will automatically get a free visa extension up until and including the 30th June. Clearly the visa rules or changes intended for the 1st July has a lot to do with this date, however the greater issue as far as th economy goes is to at the very least open some routes for trade ... Depending how well policed the checks are so suspect the border in some form will open gradually for tourists also.

It2VN

When borders open I'd be interested to hear thoughts about entering on a work permit  and the likelihood of having to quarantine for 14 days. I suppose one would be subject to the same entry conditions whether tourist or  worker...?

jayrozzetti23

kallouche wrote:
Jlgarbutt wrote:

Based on the free visa extension for month I'm guessing earliest would be July before borders open.. just a guess


I do not think so!
September IL all goes well for some South East Asian countries?
I think good...step by step...no need to rush till the pandemic is not under control in Europe and US.


No need to wait for Europe and the US, neither of which are not mentioned in the article, reflecting their relative irrelevance.

According to this:
Numbers hit record high as foreign tourists flock to Vietnam
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/travel/pla … 34336.html

VN had 18 million international tourists last year, and 14.3 million were from Asia (79.4%)

China  -  5.8 million
South Korea  - 4.3 million
Japan - 952,000
Taiwan - 926,000
Thailand - 509,000

At 2.1 million (11.6%), Europe is a significant but not vital market. The US is not even included in the statistics (maybe > 5%?)

hdgh29

Recent news from VN is that they will look at attracting 'high end' tourists. I think its well known that the European/US tourists make up most of the backpacker style, looking for a cheap holiday, whereas the East Asians tend to go for organised group deals or top end hotels. Makes sense if they are looking at regaining lost tourist dollars as quick as possible

GuestPoster1236

I did hear September/October at the earliest from a guy doing business here looking to bring customers over.   Quarantine is the issue though.....nobody wanting an actual enjoyable holiday will want to sit in 37 degree heat in some deserted army facility for 2 weeks.   And the PM did say quarantine would be in place till New Year or 12 months.

Saw a bump in tourist numbers this weekend in Nha Trang.  Mainly Saigon/ Hanoi based people.   

The type of tourists that come here are not big spenders.   If you look around the expensive restaurants & coffee shops it’s mainly local people.

Once the cheap Chinese’s tour groups have ransacked the buffet at the hotels they walk out with enough hidden away in their pockets & bags to last the day.     The Russians bring their own booze to the cheaper restaurants as well.   

There’s a few spenders, but most are battlers on their holiday of a lifetime.  The Russians are mostly lent the money by the tour group to be paid back later.    The Chinese come on very cheap 5/7 day packages.

And a problem with that is....the wealthy  Chinese , Korean & Russians know full well this is where the poor white trash have their day in the sun.  Travel snobbery...it exists. 

There’s some nice resorts here, but they’ve always been near empty.  A lot of their business comes from VN conferences & Govt employees spending money from the public purse.   

Same goes for a lot of 5 star joints anywhere in the world.   Most of their business comes from people spending other people’s money.   And with an economic collapse looming for a lot of countries , other people’s money will be harder to find. 

Video link conferences, Skype, Zoom ..etc  you’ll see a lot of business travel dry up as well.   And won’t the shareholders love that.    No more over paid bozos pissing their money up against the wall.

goodolboy

Ontheroad57 wrote:

Once the cheap Chinese’s tour groups have ransacked the buffet at the hotels they walk out with enough hidden away in their pockets & bags to last the day.

Been there seen that!! ..............being there at the breakfast buffet is something everyone should see once in a lifetime :lol:


  No more over paid bozos pissing their money up against the wall.


Oh hey, go easy, I resemble that remark!! oh how I miss them days, nothing like a good piss up at the company expense :sosad::joking:

Ciambella

Ontheroad57 wrote:

The Chinese come on very cheap 5/7 day packages.


The majority of Chinese tourists travel to other Asian countries on Zero Dollar Tours -- free or drastically reduced seats on Chinese-owned airlines, free or drastically reduced rooms in Chinese-owned hotels.  In exchange, they must spend money at pre-approved Chinese-owned restaurants, shops, and tour operators.  They're strongly advised not to use cash (even though Nha Trang merchants accept Chinese currency), not to convert their money into local currency, only use Alipay, Tenpay, and WeChat Pay so all transactions stay in Chinese mobile payment system. 

In short, the local economy benefits very little from those tourists, not even a small currency exchange fee.

jayrozzetti23

Just saw this article about Spain:

Spain to welcome foreign tourists back from July

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal … SKBN2310O5

"The world’s second-most visited nation closed its doors and beaches in March to handle the COVID-19 pandemic, but has seen out the worst and plans to lift a 14-day quarantine requirement on overseas arrivals within weeks."

They only had 28,752 coronavirus deaths.

GuestPoster1236

Ciambella wrote:
Ontheroad57 wrote:

The Chinese come on very cheap 5/7 day packages.


The majority of Chinese tourists travel to other Asian countries on Zero Dollar Tours -- free or drastically reduced seats on Chinese-owned airlines, free or drastically reduced rooms in Chinese-owned hotels.  In exchange, they must spend money at pre-approved Chinese-owned restaurants, shops, and tour operators.  They're strongly advised not to use cash (even though Nha Trang merchants accept Chinese currency), not to convert their money into local currency, only use Alipay, Tenpay, and WeChat Pay so all transactions stay in Chinese mobile payment system. 

In short, the local economy benefits very little from those tourists, not even a small currency exchange fee.


That’s what really annoys the locals here,,,the payment “apps”.   

It appears the closer to China they go ( forget Macau casinos)  the less they spend.  Bad luck here eh😆

In Australia they throw the money around like there’s no tomorrows.  Same in New Zealand , Canada & Europe.    They’ve also overtaken Australia in Bali on tourist numbers.    They certainly throw the money around in Bali , but not so much here & Thailand. 

Different demographic of travellers I suppose .

jayrozzetti23

The numbers show who actually comes to VN, not who they would like to visit.

If the goal is to attract a higher quality of tourist and a wider range of nationalities, the tourism industry needs to become much more competitive.

VN offers good good value, tropical weather and some scenic places, but something more is needed before they will be able to go beyond the Chinese and the backpackers.

Contem talk

Ciambella wrote:
Ontheroad57 wrote:

The Chinese come on very cheap 5/7 day packages.


The majority of Chinese tourists travel to other Asian countries on Zero Dollar Tours -- free or drastically reduced seats on Chinese-owned airlines, free or drastically reduced rooms in Chinese-owned hotels.  In exchange, they must spend money at pre-approved Chinese-owned restaurants, shops, and tour operators.  They're strongly advised not to use cash (even though Nha Trang merchants accept Chinese currency), not to convert their money into local currency, only use Alipay, Tenpay, and WeChat Pay so all transactions stay in Chinese mobile payment system. 

In short, the local economy benefits very little from those tourists, not even a small currency exchange fee.


If you mean, Chinese don't spend even single 1$ in VN. Then why the VN government should pay attention to Chinese tourist and investment if they have no benefits from Chinese?

GuestPoster1236

it just came in the newspapers: https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietn … 05848.html

Ciambella

Contem talk wrote:

If you mean, Chinese don't spend even single 1$ in VN. Then why the VN government should pay attention to Chinese tourist and investment if they have no benefits from Chinese?


I didn't say Chinese tourists don't spend even $1 in VN.  I said the local economy benefits very little from them.  If they make a food purchase from sidewalk vendors or a coffee at Starbucks, they still spend some money.  Not enough to boost the local economy, but enough to support the sidewalk vendors.

Some people in the government pay attention to Chinese investors because the action benefits their interest.  They pay attention to Chinese tourists because the tourists are part of the agreement.

The local economy and some people in the government are two separate identities.  The former needs the latter (you can fill in the rest of the sentence.)

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