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dzgreek

Hi everyone, Greek-American  married to a Brazilian living currently in Florida.
Missed the window to fly last April because LATAM stopped the flights at that time so we stayed put since then, now living for Brazil Oct 31st.
Hope we make it in one piece!!. I  am applying for a permanent visa based on marriage the day after we arrive in Sao Paulo.
I do have all documents translated and apostilled, so only I need to pay the corresponding taxes and submit them.

My question is:
Can I take a short trip to Greece for a month and return if I am waiting for my application to reviewed and issued the VIPER visa?  (reason for trip: youngest son getting married there)
Thank you for all replies!
Dimitrios Zoitopoulos

abthree

Dimitrios, 

Once you've submitted your paperwork and have the protocolo from the Federal Police that says they've accepted your application and are reviewing it, there shouldn't be any problems with the trip you have planned.  Make sure to keep the protocolo with you.

dzgreek

Thank you so much for the reply and the good news!!!
I will definitely have this paper with me.
Thank you
Dimitrios Z.

Texanbrazil

As said you need an approved application. It is not "cut and dry", they may have other questions and/or paperwork. Hate to see you miss the wedding, 30 days out of the country may cause concern. but just tell the PF your situation.

abthree

Glad to help.

Brazil is pretty lenient with resident foreigners.  Once you have your CRNM, you can spend as much time out of the country as you like, as long as less than two years elapse between returns to Brazil.  It becomes much stricter with candidates for naturalization, but there's absolutely no pressure on resident foreigners to naturalize.

dzgreek

Thank you for your input.
I will definitely inform them before I fly and make sure they understand :)
Dimitrios Z.

dzgreek

He is a policeman too, so maybe they will be more understanding!

dzgreek

Hello to everyone who has some ideas as to solve the following problem.

My Brazilian wife came to USA about 8 years ago to live with me.
The marriage took place in Las Vegas and has been registered with the Brazilian Consulate in Los Angeles.
She wants to move back to Brazil and I intent to follow her. Both we are retire.

We have all our papers for me to be able to get a long stay visa for Brazil.
We just checked the Police Federal website and found out that we need to show utility bills (living in Brazil for minimum 3 Months) as a proof of residence.
My wife does own a property in Brazil as living with me in US.

We are have booked an airbnb for 3 months and then we intended to rent before we purchase are own apartment or house.

Any ideas how to solve this problem?
I cannot submit any paperwork without having a proof of living there. Same goes for my wife.
I will enter as a tourist again in Brazil. I do have 10 years visa before they Brazilians took away the need for tourist visa.

Thank you for any ideas
Dimitrios Z.

rraypo

Hi there, first off, I want to wish you the best of luck.  Now then, No one has ever asked me for three months of utility bills, and I cannot find that information on the PF web site, can you provide a link so we can research this?  Also, when I received my own VITEM XI, they did not take away my tourist visa.

Where is your wife from?  If she is an American, Brazil no longer requires a tourist visa from the USA.
I would also recommend hiring someone to help you out.  Currently just getting an immigration appointment with the PF is not easy to do.

rraypo

Hi!  How do you tell the PF that you are leaving the country after you have applied for your CRNM?

abthree

Dimitrios,

You should not need three months of utility bills to prove your residency, and there are several other documents that the PF accept.  Since your wife is a Brazilian citizen and a property owner, the Escritura (deed) of her property should do the trick.  The PF also used to accept an affidavit, in the absence of other documents.  I'm not sure whether they still do, but it's worth asking.  The question should come from your wife, since she's the one who has the right to bring you into the country, and should be with your at the PF office through the application process.

Texanbrazil

rraypo
Leaving via air just show protocol and visa/passport.
They always advised me "180 days" but never stayed out of the country that long.
I have traveled on my protocol.

dzgreek

Hi abthree, thank you for the clarification.
Yes of course my wife will be with me :) I do not speak Portuguese yet. I understand most of the time what is said in a normal conversation around 70%.

She was looking at the site of the police federal and we misunderstood the requirement for proof of residence, I do apologize for my freaking out!! :(

Thank you for the quick reply!
Dimitrios Zoitopoulos

dzgreek

Hi rraypo,
sorry for my confusion.
My wife was looking at the police federal site for proof or residence and we got confused.
We revisited the site and there is not requirement of 3 months utility bills for proof.
Sorry!!!
Dimitrios Zoitopoulos

saswataoca

Hi All,
I am from India, married to a Brazilian national for 8 years. We live in India and also got married here. I have not registered our marriage in the Consulate of Brazil in India yet, but we intend to do that soon. Is it possible for me to apply for a Viper visa for permanent residency and move to Brazil along with my wife. Kindly advise on the possibilities, adversities and also the necessary requirements.
Thank you.

abthree

05/29/21

Hi, saswataoca,

The VIPER is no longer available.  It was abolished by the reform of the immigration laws in 2017, and while old ones continue to be valid, new ones are no longer being issued.

You and your spouse definitely should register your marriage at the Brazilian Consulate as soon as you reasonably can:  this will make any travel to Brazil easier for you.  When you register your marriage, you should be able to resolve your visa issues at the same time.

If you plan to live in Brazil, you can apply for a VITEM XI, a temporary visa (one year) for family reunion.  This is the closest replacement to the VIPER.  If you don't intend to move to Brazil permanently, you may still be able to request a multiyear, multi-entry temporary visa in the VITEM series, as the spouse of a Brazilian with a marriage registered at the Consulate.  This would be more convenient than needing to apply for a tourist visa for every trip.

bala mohan

Hello abthree, Good day.
                                              could you please kindly clarify if the VIPER is no longer issued, then what is the option left for us to move permanently to brazil? I mean to ask which visa i can apply.

I am in the same situation as the other Indian gentleman in this topic.
I'm an Indian married to a Brazilian for 5 years, we both have children(twins born in brazil) . all of us living in India. I got my marriage registered in India, Brazil embassy in india and also in local cartorio of my wife's birth place(paranagua).
I am planning to move permanently to brazil by applying for permanent residency through a permanent visa . I realised from this topic today that VIPER is not issued anymore .

could you please kindly clarify the latest visa options for residing permanently in brazil.


thank you,

Regards,
Bala Mohan

rraypo

bala mohan wrote:

Hello abthree, Good day.
                                              could you please kindly clarify if the VIPER is no longer issued, then what is the option left for us to move permanently to brazil? I mean to ask which visa i can apply.

I am in the same situation as the other Indian gentleman in this topic.
I'm an Indian married to a Brazilian for 5 years, we both have children(twins born in brazil) . all of us living in India. I got my marriage registered in India, Brazil embassy in india and also in local cartorio of my wife's birth place(paranagua).
I am planning to move permanently to brazil by applying for permanent residency through a permanent visa . I realised from this topic today that VIPER is not issued anymore .

could you please kindly clarify the latest visa options for residing permanently in brazil.


thank you,

Regards,
Bala Mohan


To the best of my knowledge the entire VIPER VIsa series and process ended, totally, by the end of 2017 at a time when Brazil was changing its entire visa system. 

The next and current series, as of the end of 2017, is now called VITEM.

The VITEM categories are, (from [link under review]

VITEM I – Temporary Visa I (research, teaching or academic extension)
VITEM II – Temporary Visa II (health care visa)
VITEM III –Temporary Visa III (humanitarian visa)
VITEM IV – Temporary Visa IV: (student visa)
VITEM V – Temporary Visa V (paid work visa)
VITEM VI – Temporary Visa VI (working-holiday visa)
VITEM VII – Temporary Visa VII (religious confession)
VITEM VIII –Temporary Visa VIII (voluntary work visa)
VITEM IX –Temporary Visa IX (investor visa)
VITEM X – Temporary Visa X (visa for activities of economic, scientific, technological, etc.)
VITEM XI – Temporary Visa XI (family reunification visa)
VITEM XII – Temporary Visa XII (artistic or sports activities visa)
VITEM XIII – Temporary Visa XIII (temporary visas due to international agreements)
VITEM XIV – Temporary Visa XIV - (temporary visas due to the Brazilian immigration policy)
VITEM XV – VICAM (temporary visa for foreign doctors or medical training)

abthree

05/30/21

bala mohan,

As you can see on the list that rraypo provided above, the visa that replaced the VIPER is the VITEM XI, for family reunification.  With your marriage already registered and your history, you should have no trouble obtaining this. 

The documentation requirements for the VITEM XI are similar to the ones that used to apply to the VIPER, and should be available at the website of the Brazilian Consulate where you will apply for the visa.  The big difference is that, where the VIPER required the Federal Police to issue you an Authorization of Residency, the VITEM XI gives you up to a year to request an Authorization. 

Although the Federal Police technically does have the authority to reject the request under the current system, in your case, you should be fine.  Just make sure that you have the documents required by the Federal Police (many of which are the same that the Consulate will require for the VITEM) with you.  You will need to obtain Sworn Translations of some of your documents in Brazil, so be sure that you have English versions, which are much easier to get translated.  The process will go more easily if your Brazilian spouse goes to the Federal Police with you. 

All the best!

bala mohan

Great ! Thanks rryapo and a three🙏

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