National ID registration

First cab of the rank mate, well done. We have been discussing this at length on another site and most doubt it will go anywhere but I would appreciate updates on your predicament as you appear to be the first. Good luck.

BTW I will share your post on other sites but no names etc.

Cheers, Steve.

Did they do the iris scan?

No just take your picture, when you go to interview you take birth certificate and ID for me it is passport

Okieboy, what does this give you or take away? Has this been explained properly? My readings were that this was initially aimed at the poorer citizens for the government  to help them.
What does this national ID replace or just another card to carry around?
Interested to hear your take on it.

Cheers, Steve.

National ID registration only applies to Residents, is my understanding.

The initial reports were very clear.  Foreigners were included.  A blood type and an iris scan would be done.  And, the ID card would be required for visas (at some point).   Someone from the barangay would be going house to house and this is not related to the census.  Also they are doing it in stages by province.
It is unclear what if any id's would be replaced.

"MANILA -- The Philippines began Monday registering millions of citizens for its national identification system, hoping to promote electronic payments and make it easier for low-income earners without bank accounts to access financial services.

All Philippine citizens and resident foreigners are required to register such information as name, sex, date of birth, place of birth, blood type, address and nationality. Biometric data -- fingerprints, facial photos and iris scans -- also will be stored.

The country's current system, in which different agencies issue their own numbers, has been criticized as inconvenient. The new system will grant each person a unique number that can be used across agencies. The government hopes to make financial services more accessible to low-income workers who lack bank accounts as well as facilitate delivery of government services.

Officials from the Philippine statistics agency will visit homes to collect the personal information, completing the process before President Rodrigo Duterte's term ends in June 2022. The system is scheduled to begin operation in the second half of 2021 for services such as visa issuances.

A survey found 73% public support for the new ID system, suggesting that little concern exists over the collection of personal information by the government.

Karl Kendrick Chua, acting secretary of the National Economic and Development Authority, said the ID system will accelerate growth of the digital economy. He expressed hope that the national system will spark widespread use of electronic payments. Partnerships with the private sector also appear to be on the table.

Cash remains king in the Philippines despite moves by telecommunications companies PLDT and Globe Telecom to bring e-money into the mainstream. Online shopping has been slow to catch on, in part because payment on delivery is the norm. The new national ID system could change how companies do business."

AaronAardvark wrote:

The initial reports were very clear.  Foreigners were included.  A blood type and an iris scan would be done.  And, the ID card would be required for visas (at some point).   Someone from the barangay would be going house to house and this is not related to the census.  Also they are doing it in stages by province.
It is unclear what if any id's would be replaced.

"MANILA -- The Philippines began Monday registering millions of citizens for its national identification system, hoping to promote electronic payments and make it easier for low-income earners without bank accounts to access financial services.

All Philippine citizens and resident foreigners are required to register such information as name, sex, date of birth, place of birth, blood type, address and nationality. Biometric data -- fingerprints, facial photos and iris scans -- also will be stored.

The country's current system, in which different agencies issue their own numbers, has been criticized as inconvenient. The new system will grant each person a unique number that can be used across agencies. The government hopes to make financial services more accessible to low-income workers who lack bank accounts as well as facilitate delivery of government services.

Officials from the Philippine statistics agency will visit homes to collect the personal information, completing the process before President Rodrigo Duterte's term ends in June 2022. The system is scheduled to begin operation in the second half of 2021 for services such as visa issuances.

A survey found 73% public support for the new ID system, suggesting that little concern exists over the collection of personal information by the government.

Karl Kendrick Chua, acting secretary of the National Economic and Development Authority, said the ID system will accelerate growth of the digital economy. He expressed hope that the national system will spark widespread use of electronic payments. Partnerships with the private sector also appear to be on the table.

Cash remains king in the Philippines despite moves by telecommunications companies PLDT and Globe Telecom to bring e-money into the mainstream. Online shopping has been slow to catch on, in part because payment on delivery is the norm. The new national ID system could change how companies do business."

You sure? "The initial reports were very clear.  Foreigners were included" that means that any tourist that arrives will have to go through all of that!!   Imagine a business man, only in the Philippines for 2 days of work and he would have to get it all done.  Just seems Crazzzzzzzzy to me.

Or does it mean just residents? As i stated in my first comment.  Of course blind Freddy knows that a foreigner, like many members, can be a residents.  But not all foreigners are residents, such as my self here on a tourist visa.

I said foreigners were included.  I did not say all.  I see no reason that tourists, for example 59 day visa, would be required to get a national id card.  Perhaps it would be the same rules as those who are required to have an ACR-I card.  If they were smart, they could eliminate the ACR-I card and have some sort of symbol on the ID card indicating foreigner.

So any one that is a resident here?  

Which of course means Filipino or foreigner (Resident)   Hmmm yes that just means residents.  Which is what i first said.

We will leave it there.

I really don't see the need for permanent residents to have a national ID I already have an I Card they already know more about who and where we are

pej1111 wrote:

We will leave it there.

Agreed

OOPS,
Hit reply but quote not carried forward,
Where be the discussion?

bigpearl wrote:

First cab of the rank mate, well done. We have been discussing this at length on another site and most doubt it will go anywhere but I would appreciate updates on your predicament as you appear to be the first. Good luck.

BTW I will share your post on other sites but no names etc.

Cheers, Steve.

Where be the discussion sir?

LemSaDipolog wrote:

bigpearl wrote:

First cab of the rank mate, well done. We have been discussing this at length on another site and most doubt it will go anywhere but I would appreciate updates on your predicament as you appear to be the first. Good luck.

BTW I will share your post on other sites but no names etc.

Cheers, Steve.

Where be the discussion sir?

https://www.expatforum.com/forums/phili … forum.126/

Cheers, Steve.

I have no idea they told me they would contact me, I believe the Barangy hall, there were a certain amount of names picked to start national ID registration, it is a number of registered people doing this ,they use a note book take your information and picture I think the interview is just to verify my ID and information

The Better half is off to the Barangay office just now to get the paperwork for an appointment to obtain his national ID, should I get one for you he asked? Nope if I need one I'm sure Capitan Rene will collar me.

Cheers, Steve.

Earlier there were a self service in Puerto Princesa city but peoople didn't follow covid restrictions so they closed it.
It seem it has become common with SUPERVICED use to get such an bring it around to different places.

I just read somewhere that there were now 25 million who have registered.  No idea if it was complete with the actual ID being given out.

Hi OkieBoy moving to phillipines permanently from Chico Ca.  Want to connect with you . Let me know

I would think they would use expats ACR-I cards for that purpose!

Using the ACR-I card for National ID would make sense, and be efficient. Two reasons government officials won't go along with it.

yup

Sure anytime

Except for expats that don't have an ACR card.  Also it defeats the purpose of having one universal ID

If an expat has been in country more than 59 days he better have applied for ACR card!!! Long Term Visas must be downgraded in order for them to cancel their ACR card in order to get ECC to exit the Philippines! Prior to 2017 I'm not sure of processes applied to ACR card! I know when I got mine in 2016 they put an extra stamp on back page of my Passport indicating when to begin downgrading date for current visa. Now I think you just get a paper form placed in it!

Sounds like a step towards mandatory vaccination to me, as in vaccine passports/Visas.

Hi its person from chico ca moving to phillipines.  Moving there in 3 months, marrying philipina ive known for years.  My question is where do i start  first. I fly in to cebu airport  then what ?  I start with which forms and go in person where ? Want to be permanent  resident in Philippines.  Thanks

cltisdale wrote:

Hi its person from chico ca moving to phillipines.  Moving there in 3 months, marrying philipina ive known for years.  My question is where do i start  first. I fly in to cebu airport  then what ?  I start with which forms and go in person where ? Want to be permanent  resident in Philippines.  Thanks

If I understand you correct, you are not married and the Filipina is in the Philippines?
As it is now, I suppouse you wouln't get in., Probably wouldn't the flight company even let you enter the flightt by you haven't right to get in, so they would risk to pay the costs if they would let you flky with them anyway.

I don't know if you would get approval by marry her somehow BEFORE you try to get appoval to enter the Philippines.  Perhaps worth checking.

That is not correct.  I and many others are not required to have an ACR card.

hi
Can you explain more? I know there are people like you but don't know the "Why" you are not required to have ACR card. Would like to know! Thanks!

SRRV visa holders are not required to have an ACR card.  They carry an SRRV card which is also renewed yearly but it is done through the PRA and not BI.  The visa itself has no expiration but the card does.  I have not been to the BI in years.

Also, although I cannot verify it, multiple people in Angeles have reported that BI told them that the ACR is now optional.  Again, I have no way to know if that is actually true or if it is maybe a pandemic thing.

cltisdale wrote:

Hi its person from chico ca moving to phillipines.  Moving there in 3 months, marrying philipina ive known for years.  My question is where do i start  first. I fly in to cebu airport  then what ?  I start with which forms and go in person where ? Want to be permanent  resident in Philippines.  Thanks  cltawake@gmail.com

Definitely obtain a police report from your home country, city, etc. Make sure it has some sort of raised seal on it. Similarly an original birth certificate.
If you have been married, also obtain a copy of the judge's order granting divorce.....again with a raided seal.
If you intend to stay in the PI, consider getting an SRRV to become an alien resident. If you are retired US military, the cost is low, otherwise they will hold $10,000 USD in a "frozen" savings account. The money will be returned when you surrender your SRRV. The SRRV takes about 6-12 months to obtain and is not related to a marriage.
The cheapest and easiest visa is a 13A visa (married to a Filipina) takes about 6-8 weeks plus processing fees (very low). But, should you separate and your spouse notifies Immigration, it will be cancelled and you will probably have to go to Immigration to change your visa type. Be advised that all visas for foreigners are only handled in person in Manila, although "expediter" services are available and legal.
Use the larger Philippine banks for local savings, checking and credit cards. Google for a list. BDO, Metrobank and BPI (Bank of the Philippine Islands) are good choices.
Since many shopping malls are owned by the same company (SM) here, you are almost guaranteed that there will be a BDO atm at those malls. Very rare to find Metrobank atm in them, as SM was refused a business loan by that bank early on.
If you are going to keep a bank account in your current  country, find out their policy and rates to transfer to a  Filipino bank. Larger banks frequently transfer for free but the receiving bank has a service charge. I have a  bank in the US that transfers free, but my Metrobank charges $10 USD for each transaction. I also have BDO peso account.
Make sure your driver's license has at least 6 months till expiration, the LTO here will convert it with no problems to a Filipino license.
Do your homework on visas here and take steps to obtain the forms necessary, especially if you will not live in the Manila area.
Philippines requires arriving passengers to have a departure ticket before arrival. If you are going to fly from the US or Europe, recommend going to Hong Kong, Singapore or Saigon & purchase a ticket to Cebu from there. You will probably find you will save money rather than buying a round trip discount ticket and forfeiting the outbound portion. There are discount airlines serving all four locations. Be sure to be aware of the Covid requirements of each airport, not just each country. An issue would be baggage retrieval. Its unusual for discount airlines to have baggage transfer agreements with the larger airlines.
Good luck!

EXCELLENT advice Scott!

Aron-I am pretty sure the ARC card will remain as it will be a big loss of revenue from foreigners every 5 years when they are renewed at 80-100usd.Philippines is all about money so I dont think they will give that up. If they did they would replace it with some other kind of fee/fees. The 310 pesos annually for my visa  fee every year when I check into immigration would probably be raised for sure. Jimmy

Currently new SRRV applications are not being accepted.  Also, the term "retired military" is a bit misleading.  The PRA has accepted that it actually means that you are retired from something and had some honorable military service.

I had my 13a visa processed in Cebu, no need to go to Manila. I would suggest bringing multiple copies of birth certificate, divorce papers etc as every department here wants "originals" and they do not hand them back.