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Tomma11

Hi everyone,

I'm a Japanese national living in the UK from Sep last year and before that I was in Japan. I am 19 and my father is a permanent resident (CIE/RNE) of Sao Paulo.

I was successfully issued a VITEM XI visa from the Brazilian consulate in Tokyo last year and I've been intending to travel to SP to register at the PF ever since. Covid meant plans got delayed etc. and my visa expires May this year. So I'm going to Sao Paulo March this year, flights/hotel booked.

I have zero knowledge on the process and what I find on the internet is confusing. What documents will I need to bring with me and give to the PF in Lapa once I arrive in SP? What is this thing about sworn translation and will I need to worry? Do I need to schedule appointment at PF and if so, is it straightforward/available? Am I missing some documents?

So far I have the following documents:
Birth certificate (do i need to legalise it?)
Police record from Japan already legalised
My passport
Copy of my father's passport
My father's CIE card

I really appreciate the help! Thank you so much.

abthree

Tomma,

What is the expiration date on your VITEM XI?  Are you sure that it hasn't expired?

You will need to complete the application for permanent residency on the website of the Federal Police, pay the fee, and upload the required documents.  You'll then need to make an appointment with the Federal Police, and present the documents for inspection.  You will need to present these documents to the Federal Police:

1. One passport style color photo, 3x4, white background, no glasses or face coverings.
2. Proof of residence (presumably, you'll be living with your father, at least at first; something referencing his residence should be enough)
3. Your passport
4. Police record from Japan, with apostille
5. Police record from the UK, with apostille.  You'll need a police record from any country you've lived in during the past five years.
6. Your birth certificate.  See whether the Japanese Consulate nearest you can attach an apostille.  Make several copies first.
7. Your father's identification information.  Ideally, he should go to the Federal Police with you.
8. Receipt for the payment of the fee.

The complete list (in Portuguese) appears here:

https://www.gov.br/pf/pt-br/assuntos/im … o-familiar

All documents in languages other than Portuguese intended for official use in Brazil require a Sworn Translation by a translator recognized by the Brazilian authorities.  Sworn Translations from English are easy to obtain in Brazil.  Fortunately, there are Sworn Translators for Japanese in São Paulo, as well.  An Internet search on "Traduções Juramentadas de Japonês São Paulo" should result in a list of firms that you can contact for quotes.

Good luck!

Tomma11

abthree,

Thank you so much for sharing the information in so much detail!
Yes, since my visa was issued in May last year, the expiry date is one year later and so I need to make my entry to Brazil by May this year.

In regards to the documents I need, I will make sure to bring everything with me, legalised+translated. However my father, although a RNE holder, is currently in Tokyo for 1 year+ due to work (bearing in mind the COVID situation in Brazil) and so we do not have a home address in Brazil at the moment. Therefore, he will also not be able to attend the PF with me.

You specified in number 2 about proof of residence...what exactly is needed for this since I cannot provide, for instance, electricity bill under my surname? Would a declaration of some sort be sufficient maybe?

Again, thank you so much for your help!

abthree

Tomma,

Normally, proof of residency would be a utility bill in your name or your father's name at your Brazilian address, or a lease on an apartment or house at your Brazilian address.  If your father has a residence in Brazil, one of these documents for that residence should be sufficient, whether he's there or not.

Under Brazilian law, what makes you eligible for permanent residency in Brazil is that your father, as a bona fide Brazilian permanent resident, is bringing you.  Brazil frowns on foreigners taking Brazilian residency as a convenience without any intention of living here, and the Federal Police is always on the alert to prevent this.  If your father isn't living in Brazil, doesn't maintain a Brazilian residence, and isn't present with you when you meet with the Federal Police, you can see the problem.

With worldwide, pandemic travel restrictions in place, you can certainly claim that your father is trying to get back to Brazil, and intends to return when it's safe to travel.    If you don't speak Portuguese, you should have a Portuguese-speaking friend or relative with you for the meeting.

rraypo

If you hire Mario to help you with this, he will know exactly what you need and he will handle any and all translations, background checks etc. He knows exactly what to do.

Texanbrazil

As abthree stated you will need some type of lease or resident ( that is hard and no exceptions)
They do not do home visits anymore, but you will need proof of such.

Tomma11

Okay, thank you everyone so much. The problem is my father is outside Brazil right now but only temporarily. He is a resident in Brazil and of course he intends to return. He just cannot travel at the moment due to all the flight restrictions and the route suspensions. From March I will be staying in a hotel/service apartment until he is able to come and sort out a place to live.

Also, in São Paulo, he lived in a serviced apartment as part of a hotel so there was never a utility bill or a lease agreement per se, just a booking confirmation in monthly periods.

For the proof of residence do you think they will accept a confirmation of my month long stay at the hotel? They use the wording 'prefencialmente' in this page so I assumed it was fine...

I'm anticipating my father can return by summer so technically I will be living at this hotel until then!

abthree

I try to never say "never" in Brazil, but the chance of the Federal Police accepting a hotel reservation as proof of residency is about as close to impossible as I can imagine.

Talking to the person who helped rraypo, at least to determine whether he can help you and whether his services fit your budget is a very good idea.

rraypo

Texanbrazil wrote:

As abthree stated you will need some type of lease or resident ( that is hard and no exceptions)
They do not do home visits anymore, but you will need proof of such.


My agent and I used a telephone bill and that was never questioned by the PF.

Texanbrazil

I agree with looking into someone that can find a correct answer.
Being your father does not live in BR and you were granted a family reunion visa based on fother living in BR and now no family in Brasil, PF may cancel your visa upon trying to extend your visa and look into father's as well. PR's Cannot be off of the country over 2 years.
As abthree said,
Under Brazilian law, what makes you eligible for permanent residency in Brazil is that your father, as a bona fide Brazilian permanent resident, is bringing you.  Brazil frowns on foreigners taking Brazilian residency as a convenience without any intention of living here, and the Federal Police is always on the alert to prevent this.  If your father isn't living in Brazil, doesn't maintain a Brazilian residence, and isn't present with you when you meet with the Federal Police, you can see the problem.

abthree

With the Federal Police (with any Brazilian bureaucracy, really) it's a good idea to approach them in an ambiguous situation with a local expert and a game plan for getting what you want, if possible.  It's much easier to steer them with persuasion toward a decision you want than it is to convince them to climb down and change a negative decision that they've already made.

Tomma11

Yes, it looks like it would be best to ask the agent since he would be able to speak Portuguese and know the system better.

My father is aware of the 2 year limit on PRs temporarily abroad, so far he's been out Brazil for 13months, so he intends to return by the end of this year when hopefully COVID is less of a problem.

It's promising to hear that a telephone bill could be accepted!

Also I understand Brazil frowns on foreigners taking Brazilian residency as a convenience without any intention of living there, but I am genuinely moving to Brazil to live there permanently.

Thank you so much everyone for your help!

abthree

Good luck Tomma.  Please let us know how it goes for you.  :top:

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