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Last activity 22 December 2022 by fahaamayesha2

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Ehtesham

Hello everyone,
You must have heard about the changes happening in the labor market in Saudi. i am posting here after I have read some details. below is stated considering that you already know about Mudad and Qiwa. If you haven't, then i recommend you google it as all the information below is related to these two systems.

1) Starting with Qiwa, every employee will require to register (just like Absher). The website for registration is www. qiwa. sa/en/
2) employer will first upload current contracts of all employees in Mudad portal
3) Employer shall also meet other terms like 80% performance in wage protection system for the last 3 months

Profile can be created using your current Resident permit and your details will reflect automatically in system. once done, your employment status in the system will be displayed as "unemployed". Perhaps, its because contract is not uploaded yet (it is unclear)

Once all the above steps are complete only then employees will be able to use the new features of exit re-entry etc.

if someone has any information pls let us know.

616WELCOME

WILL THE REQUEST FOR IQAMA TRANSFER BE NOTIFIED TO OLD EMPLOYER?

Arsal7

616WELCOME wrote:

WILL THE REQUEST FOR IQAMA TRANSFER BE NOTIFIED TO OLD EMPLOYER?


Yes.
And you need to complete your agreement.
And the new system is not implemented yet.

616WELCOME

BUT CONTRACTS ARE UPLOADED TO MUDAD PORTAL FORM MARCH 14.

Ehtesham

616WELCOME wrote:

BUT CONTRACTS ARE UPLOADED TO MUDAD PORTAL FORM MARCH 14.


not all contracts, many companies i know are still uploading

Arsal7

616WELCOME wrote:

BUT CONTRACTS ARE UPLOADED TO MUDAD PORTAL FORM MARCH 14.


Yes, but they will end according to your previous entry to the Kingdom.
For example if you entered KSA in January 2020 and your contract is of 2 years then it will end in January 2022.

Ehtesham

Arsal7 wrote:
616WELCOME wrote:

BUT CONTRACTS ARE UPLOADED TO MUDAD PORTAL FORM MARCH 14.


Yes, but they will end according to your previous entry to the Kingdom.
For example if you entered KSA in January 2020 and your contract is of 2 years then it will end in January 2022.


Pls share something supporting about contracts being linked with the previous entry in the kingdom?

Arsal7

Ehtesham wrote:
Arsal7 wrote:
616WELCOME wrote:

BUT CONTRACTS ARE UPLOADED TO MUDAD PORTAL FORM MARCH 14.


Yes, but they will end according to your previous entry to the Kingdom.
For example if you entered KSA in January 2020 and your contract is of 2 years then it will end in January 2022.


Pls share something supporting about contracts being linked with the previous entry in the kingdom?


You will see.
My contract is uploaded, and it is going to end in november.
And it is as was in the past.
And this is the same for all 1000 plus employees of my company.

Arsal7

Company HR can put any date because in the old system the contracts were unlimited and companies were counting the time of any employee on the basis of exit and re entry.
Have you ever seen a guy who came back from holidays and then go back to holidays without completing one or two years????????
You all will see.
Do not get hopes for something special.

Ehtesham

Arsal7 wrote:
Ehtesham wrote:
Arsal7 wrote:


Yes, but they will end according to your previous entry to the Kingdom.
For example if you entered KSA in January 2020 and your contract is of 2 years then it will end in January 2022.


Pls share something supporting about contracts being linked with the previous entry in the kingdom?


You will see.
My contract is uploaded, and it is going to end in november.
And it is as was in the past.
And this is the same for all 1000 plus employees of my company.


i am looking forward for you to refer something from the new/old rules, an article # or section # that supports your statement of linking the contracts with entry.

Arsal7

Ehtesham wrote:
Arsal7 wrote:
Ehtesham wrote:


Pls share something supporting about contracts being linked with the previous entry in the kingdom?


You will see.
My contract is uploaded, and it is going to end in november.
And it is as was in the past.
And this is the same for all 1000 plus employees of my company.


i am looking forward for you to refer something from the new/old rules, an article # or section # that supports your statement of linking the contracts with entry.


As i said you will see.
Can you give me something in your claim and denial?
I just said that your contract will be started as per your old record not from 14th of March this year.

Make your account on gosi.
There will be a starting date of your current job.
That date must be your first day at job or your re-entry date.

Ehtesham

Arsal7 wrote:
Ehtesham wrote:
Arsal7 wrote:


You will see.
My contract is uploaded, and it is going to end in november.
And it is as was in the past.
And this is the same for all 1000 plus employees of my company.


i am looking forward for you to refer something from the new/old rules, an article # or section # that supports your statement of linking the contracts with entry.


As i said you will see.
Can you give me something in your claim and denial?
I just said that your contract will be started as per your old record not from 14th of March this year.

Make your account on gosi.
There will be a starting date of your current job.
That date must be your first day at job or your re-entry date.


:dumbom:

waseem92909

My Qiwa portal status showing unemployed why what is reason

waseem92909

My Qiwa portal status showing unemployed why what is reason

Arsal7

waseem92909 wrote:

My Qiwa portal status showing unemployed why what is reason


System error.
Do not worry.

Martin Ian A?asco Juloya

I already resign but when i check my qiwa it showed i am still employed .. is there any chance to change it or no?

Ehtesham

waseem92909 wrote:

My Qiwa portal status showing unemployed why what is reason


Hello,
the reason behind this is that your employer hasn't uploaded your contract yet. check with your hr team. if you have received SMS about your contract, then click on the link and accept. Once your employer completes uploading, the status will be updated.

jijithmp

Hai
Presently im in riyadh, received a employee transfer request  from a company in jeddah, i accepted the same. Now qiwa portal showing transfer date as 8th april 2021,but the company in jeddah not able to transfer me. Qiwa portal still showing my status as employed, how can i solve this issue. Please suggest.

Regards
Jijith

Arsal7

jijithmp wrote:

Hai
Presently im in riyadh, received a employee transfer request  from a company in jeddah, i accepted the same. Now qiwa portal showing transfer date as 8th april 2021,but the company in jeddah not able to transfer me. Qiwa portal still showing my status as employed, how can i solve this issue. Please suggest.

Regards
Jijith


You need permission from your current employer.
Ask him to accept the request.

jijithmp

They told its already accepted and nothing to do more. What should i do?

Arsal7

jijithmp wrote:

They told its already accepted and nothing to do more. What should i do?


Then ask the second party to check if you are showing in the company absher.

jijithmp

In qiwa portal my status is showing still employed.

Arsal7

jijithmp wrote:

In qiwa portal my status is showing still employed.


Yes, it can be.
Because you are transferring to another company.
It will show unemployed when your contract is terminated/finished and you have left the company.

jijithmp

Is this might be a reason jeddah company telling its not showing in their system. I accepted the request and my Hr told he already done transfer by dated 8th april.

Arsal7

jijithmp wrote:

Is this might be a reason jeddah company telling its not showing in their system. I accepted the request and my Hr told he already done transfer by dated 8th april.


Wait for couple of days.
My be the system problem.
Otherwise they didn't accepted the request.

njsks1983

Hello Friends,

In my QIWA portal, the transfer status tab is showing "Error to load".   
My new employer is trying to upload the offer in QIWA but giving some error. 
Any idea what kind of errors it can be.   How to resolve this issue.

jijithmp

Problemis that my iqama expiring in April 28th. I have akready informed new company and they are trying maximun to solve this issue.

waseem92909

Hi All, I need 1 information about Qiwa  , i am working 5years  in my current company   with 2 years contract and my contract finish in  Feb 2022   so this is possible to change company   because I accepted contract request form new employer on Qiwa portal ,  plz suggest

Arsal7

waseem92909 wrote:

Hi All, I need 1 information about Qiwa  , i am working 5years  in my current company   with 2 years contract and my contract finish in  Feb 2022   so this is possible to change company   because I accepted contract request form new employer on Qiwa portal ,  plz suggest


Yes you can but you need permission from your current employer.

Arsal7

jijithmp wrote:

Problemis that my iqama expiring in April 28th. I have akready informed new company and they are trying maximun to solve this issue.


May be there is some issue with the new company.
If that company status is in yellow or red then your problem is because of that.
Check their status.

And if that new company status is in green then the problem is with the current company.

Arsal7

njsks1983 wrote:

Hello Friends,

In my QIWA portal, the transfer status tab is showing "Error to load".   
My new employer is trying to upload the offer in QIWA but giving some error. 
Any idea what kind of errors it can be.   How to resolve this issue.


It's his problem.
Ask him to solve it. May be he is not registered on Mudad website.
Or may be his company hasn't paid some government taxes/bills and may be that's the reason for this problem.
But it's not your responsibility.

jijithmp

Qiwa portal after accepting new transfer request now showing
Request date: 06/04/2021
Status : Pending notice period completion
Transfer date: 08/04/2021
Remaining days: -

But my new company told not showing in their system?so trabsfer is being delayed. My iqama expiring on April 28th 2021.Why so any possible help please.

jijithmp

Please provide any help for the above discussed matter .

Arsal7

jijithmp wrote:

Please provide any help for the above discussed matter .


Your current employer is playing with you.
Ask him to show you the transfer application if it is done.

murtuzaahmed1517

I got termination from my current company one week ago and my new employer sent me a contract on QIWA. But when I log in to the qiwa portal to accept the contract, it is showing question marks once I press on " accept the contract".please help.

Arsal7

murtuzaahmed1517 wrote:

I got termination from my current company one week ago and my new employer sent me a contract on QIWA. But when I log in to the qiwa portal to accept the contract, it is showing question marks once I press on " accept the contract".please help.


Try to open it on another computer or mobile and also try another browser.

murtuzaahmed1517

Thanks for the reply. I tried doing both but its still showing the same.

Arsal7

murtuzaahmed1517 wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I tried doing both but its still showing the same.


No idea then.
Tell me one thing, is your contract finish or they out final exit on your visa?

Dennismoises

Unfinished 1yr term  contract with 4months remaining before contract end,I resigned due to mutual agreement to transfer me and no penalties to be paid.
My qiwa portal showing unemployed after 3weeks of resignation.
What do you think will happen next?
My last working day will be will be in 3weeks.

Muhammadsahir02
@Arsal7



Hi,

My current employer said me about transfer through Qiwa I am tried to transfer through Qiwa in the last 2 days but the problem is ther is no data available of mine and the Qiwa profile shown me unemployed and there is no data available about my current Company/Sponsor



In that case what we can do ?

Can we transfer without current employer  approval?

Can we get transfer without Qiwa portal ??

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