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Ofcuse you into scaring people.
You all so very clear think you the only one that know about the Vaccines.
You all so think because you read you news on Thai web page in Thai, that make it better.
I dont use any Thai media to learn about the Covid 19 and Vaccine.
I dont use The Bangkok Post or The Nation, Have to disappoint you there all so.
But my wife get information about Covid 19 and Vaccine from Thai, In Thai.
That my wife got a fever we both knew that some do, So that she got the fever and then back to normal, show us her body react the way is meant to do (for some).
Again nothing to make a big deal about.
It is so sad that people that dont want the Vaccine, All ways try to scare people.
All ways try to point out every little thing, Like it is a big deal.
I think if not everyone, That a very high % number, Know about the Vaccine and they might have some side effect, We know that, And understand it, And we still choose to get, As we believe the only way through all of this, Is for Thailand to get over 80% (or what number Thailand is aiming for) of the population, We choose to be part of the solution, And not against it.
Kindly.
Again a sheeple in action. It is not a vaccine it is an experimental jab on the whole world. Look at their websites as they state it their selves! Not FDA approved. Good luck to you for having the frankenstien jab! See how you fair in next few years. They stopped animal tests when all the ferrets died, Now it;s human lab rats turn! WTF up! Oh & no liabilty?
I said there are only 150,000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine available for expats with a few categories given priority. Those doses won't go to people below 60 years of age unless you suffer from one of 7 underlying health conditions. It doesn't matter where you live in Thailand, but you need to be a resident living in Thailand, for example as a retiree or with a work permit. If you're not lucky enough to get free Pfizer shots, you'll be able to get free AstraZeneca shots when the manufacturer in Thailand starts to deliver. Private hospitals will probably in the future provide Pfizer or Moderna shots,but not for free. 1700 Baht/shot for the Moderna vaccine has been announced in Pattaya.
Bagwain wrote:Again a sheeple in action. It is not a vaccine it is an experimental jab on the whole world. Look at their websites as they state it their selves! Not FDA approved. Good luck to you for having the frankenstien jab! See how you fair in next few years. They stopped animal tests when all the ferrets died, Now it;s human lab rats turn! WTF up! Oh & no liabilty?
So here we have one more that against the Vaccine, Simple look at what written from this person.
It really show how silly some of the people against the Vaccine is.
And once again one of them trying to scare some people, This person must be very silly, If they think that by use some bad words, Going to change my mind.
So sad how low people can sink.
Kindly.
The moron is talking about vaccines as if there were only one type. The AstraZeneca vaccine is an old fashion so called 'viral vector vaccine' where you inject a fraction of the virus to teach the immune system what to fight against. It works like a flu-vaccine. Pfizer and Moderna are new modern mRNA-vaccines. I guess that people who refuse to get vaccinated will in the future not be able to travel or even do what they are used to without being fully vaccinated.
Where you get your free shots is up to the government. I don't know what batch of Pfizer you're talking about, the donated or the ordered one that will arrive in Q4. If you're not willing to pay for the vaccine at a private hospital when it's available, you have to wait for the free AstraZeneca manufactured in Thailand. You can not wait to pre-register at the new website that opened yesterday at 11am. A lot of people have already pre-registered,including me. If you pre-register and get approved, you can always get vaccinated elsewhere if you get an opportunity. You have a 24 hour window to accept the time and place for the first pre-registered shot. But you must be in one of the categories that are prioritized. Are you below 60 and healthy, then you're out of the equation for the donated doses from Pfizer.
"After months of the closure of the border to all tourists. and strict quarantine put in place returning Thai's and ex-pats returning to their Thai families."
For your information, the borders were closed March 26 2020. That's more than 16 months ago.
If you are scared then you are scaring yourself. Or maybe you realize that these vaccines are not perfected yet and have some doubts. I'm not scared so why are you? You should not be scared by free and accurate information. What you should be scared about is being lied to or misled that these vaccines are not as safe as they want you to believe. If you are scared that means you have doubts about the vaccines because if you were 100% confident in them there would be no reason to be scared. You obviously are not!
If smoking caused cancer and they lied about the effects and you continued to smoke and got lung cancer would that make you feel better that at least they didn't scare you while you were doing all that smoking? I hope you would want to know that smoking did in fact cause lung cancer so if you continued to smoke knowing the risk you were doing it well informed and you took the risk on your own behalf.
Before the 1980s that was not the case. My grandfather died of lung cancer in 1991 because he would smoke constantly and when you told him the dangers he didn't believe it because he thought if it was harmful they would inform people more openly about it. So, he wasn't scared all the time he was smoking up until the point when he started dying of lung cancer then he felt betrayed. But betrayed by whom? By the people who were telling him the dangers of smoking or by the tobacco industry which was saying there were no known side effects to smoking when they knew very well that it caused lung cancer?
If you are scared by my posts then just don't read them and skip them. Why are you reading them? I'm not going to stop posting because you are scaring yourself. I want to warn people who do not know the bad side effects from these vaccines and are not sure whether to get the jabs.
I will not stop posting so you either have to skip them or get over your fear. Again, if you were 100% confident in the vaccines you would not be scared. You are scared because you realize there is something wrong with these vaccines, but instead of looking into it and finding the truth, you want to be lied to and turn your back to the negative reports that are already out there in substantial numbers. That is up to you, but I will not stop. My grandfather died because he would rather be lied to than face the truth.
Smoking didn't kill you the first time you did it, but it did over enough time. The same could be true about these vaccines. They might not harm you immediately, however, since there are side effects that is already an indication something is wrong. There are no side effects to getting the polio vaccine. Why? Because they have been perfected enough. These covid-19 vaccines are not. None of them have been FDA approved. They even tell you that in the USA when you get the jab. We don't know what the long term effects of these vaccines will be.
I am not scared, You not post anything that i didnt know about.
But i can understand IF people that not 100% sure they want the vaccine or not, Might be.
Like i all ready write before, I think most people know the vaccine is not perfect at this time, And they have some side effect, But others and I, Choose to help out.
They more people that get the vaccine, They more data the company can collect and use for the furture to help make better vaccine. If noone choose to help, We cant make the world safer.
As I do think we need vaccine to help the world.
Once again you think you can post and tell me what to do, Not do.
Read or skip what you post.
I am sorry to tell you this man, But you nobody, What you think, write is totally irrelevant to me, But as i write, Some might read it, And get "scared".
FDA approved might be important to you and others.
It is not to me, In fact i dont care what they approved or not.
Kindly.
Most people are scared at least the people I know. Again the choice is yours as no one else has the right to make it for you. I will not be taking the vaccines as I have an allergy condition that might get me into a lot of trouble if I do. The questions I ask on this site are not for me but for friends in my area that have trouble with English. I hope this name-calling that goes on here will stop as everyone is entitled to their opinion as it is the only way we can learn in these bad times.
What are you talking about? You said at least 3 times above about scaring people. The only ones who are scared are those that took the vaccine already and have regrets. If people haven't taken the vaccine they would not be scared because they haven't been injected.
The way you help people is not by suppressing negative reactions to the vaccines, but to talk about them and look into why they are happening. That is not what is happening. People who talk about their symptoms online are being threatened, even doctors. Jimmy Dore didn't know you would get the body aches and stiff neck that he got after the vaccine because people were afraid to tell of their symptoms. He found out by tweeting that many people did in fact have the same type of reactions even doctors and nurses.
It is not true that many know of the negative effects. Many do not! I talk to them on here all the time. If you know them and took the vaccine you did it on your own terms by weighing the risks and benefits. That is not true of many. They took the vaccine and were surprised by the negative effects. I talked to many of the instructors at my university and they didn't know these negative symptoms could happen because negative reactions are being suppressed. Many have said that if they knew of the negative reactions they wouldn't have taken the vaccine. So what is happening is that people are being tricked into taking it by a false sense that these vaccines are safe.
LOOK! If you want to read my posts then fine. Why are you still reading them and telling me to stop scaring people when I'm not scared, you claim you are not scared, but that other people might? What an excuse if I ever heard one! Who told you they were scared then? You are completely making that up to try to trick people reading these posts. Nobody has told you anything about being scared because you say, "Some might read it, And get 'scared'". Might? Come on, man! Stop wasting my time with this 'might' and 'maybe' nonsense.
And FDA approval is important to many because it lets them know what is safe to take and what is risky, in case you don't know that! But you claim you know everything only after you've been told on here and try to peddle the contrary information and failed.
Roadhog wrote:Most people are scared at least the people I know. Again the choice is yours as no one else has the right to make it for you.
If the people you are referring to are scared, then they have taken the vaccines, had symptoms, and now have doubts about taking the vaccine. Why would people be scared if they haven't taken the vaccines? Unless they are being forced into taking the vaccines and don't want to. Which is even worse. That is why you don't force people to do something they don't want to do.
I think the point is if they are scared then they shouldn't take the vaccine until they are sure of them. I'm not sure of them, but I'm not scared because I'm not taking the vaccine. I have full confidence in my own immune system and have very little in these vaccines.
At least you are trying to look into the facts. Others on here are trying to cover them up.
I never say i know everything, I say i know what you have post on here, Big different.
I didnt wait for the post to start on this webpage to learn about Covid 19 & Vaccine.
I did not wait for to school me about it. ha ha ha
I start read and follow that long ago. But i was sure from the start, That Covid 19 was seriously, And I better try to keep my self up2date about it.
FDA like i say, Dont matter to me, I am from Denmark, So we can use European Commission, EMA. (READ i say can, Not that i do all the time)
But i make up my own mind about what i want to be done to my body.
Like the treatment for my back pain is Approved by FDA, But have not being approved in Denmark, But because it can help me, I still choose to get it.
Noone at this point know the long term effect/side effect from this treatment, The data have start to come in now, As it now have run for a longer period of time.
This is only to point out, That I dont really care if FDA. European Commission or EMA approved things or not.
I make up my own mind.
I do think people must have live under a rock if they dont know about negative effects.
Special after all the cover all over. People post about it and so on
I for sure know that many Danish & Thai people do, Can Of cause only talk about the people i Know, And I can follow the movement against vaccine in Denmark.(And other countrys)
So i dont buy into that people dont know about it.
Kindly.
Yes, they are scared after taking the first jab knowing the second one will be the az one. A lot of government workers in my area have got the second jab and they are feeling the pain Quite a lot have been off work for a few days. Who knows what the future will bring to the people who use these mixed vaccines?
Do you really think that anyone cares about what Denmark does when it comes to covid-19 vaccines? Wake up! You sound like a kid in kindergarten. I promise you, if you're not vaccinated, in the near future you won't be able to go where you want and do what you want. Then you will complain about that.
Leeds forever! wrote:Do you really think that anyone cares about what Denmark does when it comes to covid-19 vaccines? Wake up! You sound like a kid in kindergarten. I promise you, if you're not vaccinated, in the near future you won't be able to go where you want and do what you want. Then you will complain about that.
If you care to read what i post in here.
You know i got my first injection.
I trust Denmark / Europa any day of the week over USA, That for sure.
Kindly.
Roadhog wrote:Yes, they are scared after taking the first jab knowing the second one will be the az one. A lot of government workers in my area have got the second jab and they are feeling the pain Quite a lot have been off work for a few days. Who knows what the future will bring to the people who use these mixed vaccines?
I feel sorry about the people you are talking about. What a terrible situation to be put in by your own government employers! And from what I hear the 2nd shot is the one causing the most problems. Since you are infecting the vaccinated with the virus in the first shot because they are whole virus so your body is already in attack mode to these spike proteins, then in the 2nd shot is injecting the DNA of the virus into another virus and telling your own cells to make the virus' spike proteins. This is causing the vaccinated people's own immune system to attack and kill their own cells which are making this spike protein. What a mess!
If I was them I would quit my job before taking the shots. My body is more important to me than some stupid govt job.
Never done that wrote:I never say i know everything, I say i know what you have post on here, Big different.
I do think people must have live under a rock if they dont know about negative effects.
Special after all the cover all over. People post about it and so on
So i dont buy into that people dont know about it.
Kindly.
Then you don't know everything I have posted. You are either a liar or you have no clue what you are talking about.
In one sentence you say you know everything I post, then in another you say that you don't know people who don't know about the negative effects. Finally, in the last line you say you didn't buy that people didn't know.
A lot of my posts have been about people saying they didn't know about the negative side effects of the vaccines and they had to go online or ask doctors about them after they had already been injected and felt these bad symptoms. Many on here, if you go back and read previous posts say outright that they don't know about the negative side effects. The instructors at my university have said that to me after the shots and they felt ill, that they didn't know about the bad side effects. Many of those have said that if they did know first they wouldn't have taken the shots. So, they are being tricked by information suppression.
You only got the 1st shot, so you don't even know the full effects of the 2nd shot. The 2nd shot is the one that is causing most of the negative side effects, not the 1st shot! If you knew anything, you would know that. You cannot talk credibly about the full effects of the vaccine until you have received both shots.
You have lost all credibility with this subject and have stopped making sense a long time ago. I do not want to waste my time and react to any of your comments from this moment on.
Leeds forever! wrote:I promise you, if you're not vaccinated, in the near future you won't be able to go where you want and do what you want. Then you will complain about that.
Do you really think anyone will care who is vaccinated or who is not after the pandemic is over? Does anybody care now who is vaccinated for SARS, MERS, N1H1, Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Spanish Flu, Polio, etc.?
Nobody cares because these viruses are not a pandemic now so nobody cares who was vaccinated for these viruses. In 2 years time this covid-19 pandemic will also be over. Will anybody care in 2023 who was vaccinated for covid-19 in 2021? I'm telling you, nobody will. It will be ancient history and long forgotten by most of the general public.
Does anybody even care who has HIV now? Before the mid-nineties it was a death sentence and people who had HIV were avoided and feared. Now, nobody cares. The same will be true about this covid-19 pandemic once it has passed.
In one sentence you say you know everything I post, then in another you say that you don't know people who don't know about the negative effects. Finally, in the last line you say you didn't buy that people didn't know.
Yes I know what you write, And no i dont personlig know people that dont know about the negative effects, Maybe because here in Thailand and back home, People i know, Talk together about every things. So there is simple no chance that they dont know about it.
I can simple look how must time my wife use talking to her family and friends nearly daily about it, Because it is some thing everyone we KNOW talk about.
On top, all the Thai forum, facebook group, Line groups and so on, she active on sharing, Asking what other have done and so on. Thai people are where good to share things.
But as i can read, I can understand that some people say, That they dont know about it. But i dont know them.
It is really not that hard to understand.
As noone know what going to happened with Covid 19, That you tells us it be over and forgotten is simple silly at this point.
It might be over it a short time, Or might not, Only time can tell us that.
I see no point in caring on, Waste of my time.
Have a nice day.
Kindly.
I don't really understand Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKAst0jxja4
Never done that wrote:
I see no point in caring on, Waste of my time.
[b]"You have lost all credibility with this subject and have stopped making sense a long time ago. I do not want to waste my time and react to any of your comments from this moment on."
I already said that, so what is the point of copying me?
"I see no point in caring on, Waste of my time."
GOOD! Goodbye!
Roadhog wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKAst0jxja4
I'm not big on animal videos, but that was a good song by War from 1975.
"CDC study shows three-fourths of people infected in Massachusetts coronavirus outbreak were vaccinated but few required hospitalization"
"A sobering scientific analysis published Friday found that three-quarters of the people infected during an explosive coronavirus outbreak fueled by the delta variant were fully vaccinated."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 … accinated/
This shows that vaccines don't actually protect you from reinfection. That's is why the vaccinated are really scared.
"As noone know what going to happened with Covid 19, That you tells us it be over and forgotten is simple silly at this point.
It might be over it a short time, Or might not, Only time can tell us that."
Yes we do. We have something called history which tells us what has happened in the past and what is likely to happen in the future.
Covid-19 is a coronavirus. It's not the first one of it's type and it won't be that last one. Other coronavirus are MERS, SARS, HKU1,etc. Here they are including covid-19.
"Human Coronavirus Types
Coronaviruses are named for the crown-like spikes on their surface. There are four main sub-groupings of coronaviruses, known as alpha, beta, gamma, and delta.
Human coronaviruses were first identified in the mid-1960s. The seven coronaviruses that can infect people are:
Common human coronaviruses
229E (alpha coronavirus)
NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
OC43 (beta coronavirus)
HKU1 (beta coronavirus)
Other human coronaviruses
MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
SARS-CoV-2 (the novel coronavirus that causes coronavirus disease 2019, or COVID-19)"
Notice how covid-19 is known as SARS-CoV-2 which is very similar to SARS-CoV. So we have a precedent. How long did the SARS1 pandemic last? It first came out of China in November 2002, became a pandemic in 2003 and was not a pandemic anymore by early 2004.
Do you see a pattern here with Covid-19? Started in November 2019 and should not be a pandemic anymore beyond a couple of years. That is why it's not silly to think this Covid-19 pandemic will not be a pandemic by 2023. History tells us how long these pandemics of coronaviruses last.
You must be stupid if you compare SARS with covid-19. There were only about 8000 cases worldwide infected by SARS and about 800 deaths. No vaccinations worldwide. About 300,000 people die worldwide every year from the common flu. And many more from covid-19. In just Thailand almost 100,000 cases the last 5 days. Stop posting about stuff you know nothing about. It's l like listening to a 12 year old. A stupid 12 year old. 1 more thing,there have never ever been a vaccination program earlier in Thailand. That's one reason the vaccine purchases and vaccination rate is so slow.
What are you talking about? They are both similar types of virus. They are both coronaviruses! SARS and Covid-19 are even both called SAR-CoV and SARS-CoV-2.
When Covid-19 first came out in late 2019, it was being compared to SARS.
You don't know anything. Stop lecturing me, you *****! The one who is acting like a child is you. I'm posting information from scientific websites to inform people. You are just spouting stupid opinions with no evidence to back anything up! Not only are your opinions wrong, but they are politically biased and faulty.
Here's the website which actually compares the seven types of coronaviruses which Covid-19 is only 1 of them. And it's from the CDC, which is a really pro-vax organization.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html
This virus is being politicized for political gain. Don't you understand that? Spanish Flu in 1918 was 100 times more deadly to people 40 and under than Covid-19 is. This is an actual stat, look it up! However, it's the ones who are not at risk of dying who are doing all the complaining and politicizing about it.
Stop posting what you don't know about!
Mate he is either a troll or a complete b/dead moron.
Don't even respond to the twat!
He will see soon see after the results of the Exp/Jab get him!
COVID 19 became politics, it's no use discussing passions. As much as there is evidence, it will never be enough evidence for coronalovers. I already gave up. The future will tell who is right or wrong. The only thing I ask God is for the attitudes taken by the government not to harm the population's health, such as vaccination. I'm all for safe vaccines.
Bagwain wrote:Mate he is either a troll or a complete b/dead moron.
Don't even respond to the twat!
I know. You are probably right about that, but misinformation like that just bothers me. He doesn't even understand that Covid-19 stands for Coronavirus Disease 2019 which is just its nickname. The actual name for Covid-19 is SARS-CoV-2, so it's called SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or SARS)) in the actual name because it infects the respiratory system in the exact same way the SARS from 2002 did.
Then this guy has the nerve to try to project his childish behavior onto me. He has called others on here 'stupid' or 'act like a child', so he is clearly projecting his own weaknesses onto others in an attempt to cover up his own childish knowledge and behavior.
Anyway, thanks for the good advice!
Andreia Cruz wrote:COVID 19 became politics, it's no use discussing passions. As much as there is evidence, it will never be enough evidence for coronalovers. I already gave up. The future will tell who is right or wrong. The only thing I ask God is for the attitudes taken by the government not to harm the population's health, such as vaccination. I'm all for safe vaccines.
You are right about that. Science has become a tool for these people to gain politically.
The slow rate in vaccination in Thailand has nothing to do with politics. It's just incompetence when it comes to purchasing vaccines and poor logistics.
Leeds forever! wrote:The slow rate in vaccination in Thailand has nothing to do with politics. It's just incompetence when it comes to purchasing vaccines and poor logistics.
Rubbish it's all about politics worldwide & the WEF are using it for the great reset. WTF up!
Again I find it hard to understand why Ivermectin for humans is hard to get in Thailand. As it does work on mild cases of covid19.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec6XslfVSDE
JayEsCee wrote:"CDC study shows three-fourths of people infected in Massachusetts coronavirus outbreak were vaccinated but few required hospitalization"
"A sobering scientific analysis published Friday found that three-quarters of the people infected during an explosive coronavirus outbreak fueled by the delta variant were fully vaccinated."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 … accinated/
This shows that vaccines don't actually protect you from reinfection. That's is why the vaccinated are really scared.
It is a great link to go and read.
But again, It is NOT news that we can get sick or give it to others after we get the Vaccine.
We have know that nearly since the start.
The Vaccine we get it to help our body fight it, IF we get it.
You know, Like it say it what you poste here.
“People should be reassured that if they are fully vaccinated that they are very likely, highly likely, to be protected against severe or critical illness, the kind of illness that would cause them to be hospitalized or killed by this virus,” said Paul A. Offit, a vaccine expert at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “Vaccines save your life.”
And like they say, Best option is still the Vaccine.
“Common sense has to be used,” Corey said. “It’s a learning moment. It’s a teaching moment. You can’t overlook the vast data we have on the effectiveness of the vaccine.”
Corey and other scientists reiterated that vaccination is the best way to end the pandemic. Turning covid-19 into a nuisance cold instead of a potentially fatal pneumonia was the main goal of the shots.
Again, There is really nothing new in this.
And ofacuse since they have to rush the Vaccine, We know that they need to collect data and make the Vaccine better.
But a great link to support the use of the Vaccine.
Kindly.
Found this over at Thaivisa.
Any foreigner in Thailand who has not yet registered for the vaccine can do so here:
https://expatvac.consular.go.th/
Hope it work for them that still have not register.
Kindly.
Everything you post shows that you're a moron. Ivermectin is a cure for different types of parasites. Read this from the FDA,and try to understand what you're reading.
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer- … t-covid-19
Leeds forever! wrote:The slow rate in vaccination in Thailand has nothing to do with politics. It's just incompetence when it comes to purchasing vaccines and poor logistics.
That has nothing to do on the question of whether people in Thailand or around the world should or should not get the vaccine. Worse yet, why some governments are trying to mandate it when they know it has side effects and it's not perfected, yet.
I don't care the rate of vaccination in Thailand is slow, whether the Thai government is incompetent, whether they are cheap and only buy the worst vaccines, whether they have poor logistics. I'm not getting the vaccine. I just want to know the dangers of it and why it's being politicized so much. What are these people's end goal? To make everybody sick, have poor immune systems, and totally dependent on socialized medicine? That's what I'm seeing them taking this to. Also, I want to know how much I need to avoid the vaccinated people because I don't want to get sick from them.
Roadhog wrote:Again I find it hard to understand why Ivermectin for humans is hard to get in Thailand. As it does work on mild cases of covid19.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec6XslfVSDE
That question was answered in the beginning of that Joe Rogan-Jimmy Dore video link in the very beginning. 'They', whomever 'they' are, don't want us to use generic drugs used for other things to treat covid-19 because the big pharma won't make money on them like they are doing with these vaccines. For them it's all about making money and they really don't care about the health of the public. If anything, they want us sick to buy more medicine from them.
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