Looking for online German classes with final exam

One only needs to pass a B1 level exam in German for a settlement permit or citizenship, One also needs to pass the citizenship test or the equivalent integration course exam which is specially for refugees. No language course counts as the integration/citizenship test, its NOT the same thing.

And one does not get citizenship and then residency, it's the other way around. One needs to get an unrestricted residency and then as a non-EU person, not married to an EU person, have 8 years of residency along with checks on ones working, financial, living and marital status - and not be on any kind of social assistance or have a serious criminal record or belong to any undemocratic or terrorist organization to get citizenship.

Also, I don't understand your classifications of language levels. There is A1, A2, B1, B2, C1and  C2.  Maybe they designate it differently for courses somewhere but these are the certified levels one gets tested for. There is no A1.2 for example...

I know all of that, I don't need reminding. I also clearly wrote: "an integration course which would enable me to get my citizenship quicker and possibly my residency permit as well before that." The 8 year wait can be narrowed down with an integration course for instance. In any case, it is acquired quicker the more integrated you are and that includes speaking the language properly which you can only learn through a proper course.

In order to get a B2 language certificate for instance, you need to do B2.1. and B2.2. for which you get a final exam. It's the same thing at all levels.

Trabantlover wrote:

I know all of that, I don't need reminding. I also clearly wrote: "an integration course which would enable me to get my citizenship quicker and possibly my residency permit as well before that." The 8 year wait can be narrowed down with an integration course for instance. In any case, it is acquired quicker the more integrated you are and that includes speaking the language properly which you can only learn through a proper course.

In order to get a B2 language certificate for instance, you need to do B2.1. and B2.2. for which you get a final exam. It's the same thing at all levels.

Obviously you don't know it all or you wouldn't be asking such questions. And no, you have no such pathway to a quicker citizenship or permanent residency. The integration courses and quicker pathway to a more permanent status are for certified refugees, not someone from Canada. Why would you expect to get benefits given to refugees? Do you expect free accommodation as well? In effect, the integration course exam is simply an alternative to the citizenship test and nearly the same. If you can take an integration course then you wouldn't later have to take the citizenship test but this in itself doesn't shorten your residency requirement. Refugees have a shorter pathway to citizenship and need the ingratiation course and exam but this does not mean that the integration course and exam themself gives the right to a shorter pathway; that has to do with one's status.

But you could theoretically marry a German and cut the possible time down to 3 years, or work on a blue card and shorten it as well. And the standard time for non-EU people of 8 years can be shortened to 7 if they have what they call "an exceptional level of German". But I have never found this defined. Since one needs B1 regardless, it would likely have to be B2 or C1.

And like I wrote, for testing there is A1, A2, B1, B2 etc. What you have written is course designation at the Volkshochschule. Their courses to prepare for A1 for example might be labeled A1.1 and A1.2, the exam, which anyone can take without having had classes is simply A1. Your post wasn't clear to me which is why I specified; maybe I didn't catch your intent? Other language schools might label it any way they want. Not much sense in referring to the way the VHS does it as it is not some kind of standard, just an internal designation.  An advantage of having the classes at Volkshochschule though  is that their pupils will get priority to take the exams; other can take it there but can only sign up for open spots not already taken.

I'm not talking about integration courses for refugees, I'm talking about language classes which are labeled as integration courses by certain language schools and which count in the path towards permanent residency and citizenship. My language class before the pandemic had the integrationskurs label on the official VHS document. Obviously not every language lesson or language school is recognized in the same way by the government, that's the issue. What you're saying about the 8 year period isn't exactly true as I know some people from my workplace who got their citizenship after 6 years even and they were neither refugees nor had an amazing level of German.

The labeled A1.1. and A1.2 are subdivisions of languages classes, they exist in several other schools too and as far as I know they exist in other countries too. At the end of each .2 levels, you get a final exam which if you pass enables you to move to the next level (B.1.1., C.1.1. etc.)

I would need to get certain information on how to find a good online class which is the equivalent of a classroom session, I'm not here to debate lengths and requirements.

Trabantlover wrote:

I'm not talking about integration courses for refugees, I'm talking about language classes which are labeled as integration courses by certain language schools and which count in the path towards permanent residency and citizenship.

And as I have already mentioned the answer is NO. Not how it works.

One can take language courses if they want to help them get the needed level for getting a settlement permit or citizenship (B1). Or if they are in the status of needing 8 years to possible citizenship they could get a higher level and reduce the time by a year. But the whole point is that  language exams otherwise give no short-cut. Integration courses are another thing, and like I mentioned, passing of the exam is an alternative to the citizenship test. This is a requirement  to get citizenship, not some kind of short cut.
People hear about people (refugees) taking integration and language courses and getting the possibility of citizenship earlier than them and conflate the issues. Even if you don't say it in so many words you are asking if you can get a benefit given to refugees without being one. The years of residency required depend on one's status and not the passing of the exams.

It's been explained clearly and you are beating a dead horse hopping for an outcome that doesn't exist. If it did, why wouldn't everyone being doing ti that way? And you are free to look at the BAMF (German Immigration Authority) website. There is a reason that there is no mention of such a thing because it doesn't exist.

As I said earlier, I am looking for proper online German classes as that was the purpose of this post. I will not debate lengths and requirements, I merely asked about it to confirm or refute information that I had heard about.

Why don't you Google "Online German Courses?"

Duh, it's the first thing I did. I have been researching for weeks and thought I would ask fellow expats instead of searching for something I can't seem to find.

Trabantlover wrote:

As I said earlier, I am looking for proper online German classes as that was the purpose of this post. I will not debate lengths and requirements, I merely asked about it to confirm or refute information that I had heard about.

And you have been given the answer multiple times and just don't seem to want to accept it. And I tried to explain the context of the situation and you seem to want to nit pick and complain about anything you don't see as directly relevant.

Do online German classes exist? Yes, of course. Are there any that will shorten one's pathway to citizenship? NO! Sorry I wasted my time but the answer to your question is still NO.

This isn't about citizenship, it's secondary and it's a detail. My main issue is to find a proper online German class right now as I've explained this whole time. Even if there is no way to shorten the delay towards residency permit and citizenship, I STILL want to take online language classes regardless.

Trabantlover wrote:

This isn't about citizenship, it's secondary and it's a detail. My main issue is to find a proper online German class right now as I've explained this whole time. Even if there is no way to shorten the delay towards residency permit and citizenship, I STILL want to take online language classes regardless.

Then why did you repeatedly write that the purpose was German classes or integration class to shorten the time for citizenship? You added that caveat repeatedly, nobody else. Your claim now contradicts what is plain to see! Could have saved a lot of trouble by just asking; " does anyone know of online German courses?"

I didn't write it repeatedly, I mentioned it at the very end of my first post : "I also need to have a language course that is recognized by the German government as an integration course which would enable me to get my citizenship quicker and possibly my residency permit as well before that." Now I'm adding the apparently necessary clarification for anyone that can get confused: I want to take German courses regardless of my situation with the citizenship.