EVs in Indonesia

This is interesting, not for what she's doing, but who is helping her do it

https://jakartaglobe.id/vision/no-more- … ctric-cart

No More Pushing: This Street Vendor Sells Vegetables on Electric Cart.....
......PLN’s electric cart aims to not only boost productivity for micro and small enterprises (MSEs), but also build the battery-powered electric motor vehicle ecosystem in Indonesia.
It will enable MSEs to save energy and fuel while being environment-friendly.
PLN has provided at least 12 electric carts to MSEs.

Pushing thé cart is free, electric cart runs on a battery and needs to be charged and requires maintenance & possible replacement at some point. Would suggest to start with black smoke bellowing trucks and busses to improve the health of citizens in one of the most polluted and unhealthy cities on the planet ✌🏻

It's more a social and normalisation initiative than anything else.
As for those terrible trucks that belch smoke as they run along at night with no lights but bald tyres, there are far fewer than before so someone must be doing something.
Trucks will be last because the limits of technology mean they're much harder work to electrify.
Much as cars and bikes appear less polluting, their combined waste is just as bad or worse than the trucks.

I’ve got no idea what the short-, mid-, and long term policy of the government is but according to the stats Jakarta still is one of the most polluted cities on this planet, effecting the health of thousands of not millions. With these grand plans of building a new capital in afraid solving this becomes even less of a priority 😬

bennl wrote:

I’ve got no idea what the short-, mid-, and long term policy of the government is but according to the stats Jakarta still is one of the most polluted cities on this planet, effecting the health of thousands of not millions. With these grand plans of building a new capital in afraid solving this becomes even less of a priority 😬

Not so. The government is pushing EV usage, that being part of the reason two large Chinese manufacturers are setting up production in this country.
Jobs and good old fashioned cash is the other one - of course.
With the vast majority of people using their cars for under 100km per week, and with just the driver only, small EVs are an answer to a lot of problems.
It requires a mindset change to get people out of what have been traditional cars since the Japanese worked their magic, to the new normal of Chinese cars with names that were as funny sounding as Toyota and Honda were not all that many years ago. At an expected 60 million for a small car, I can see it happening.

Get the charging network in place first, before you start selling EV's, that's putting the cart before the horse and it will not work. With nearly 24/7 traffic jams it will be interesting to see all those stranded EV's with an empty battery that can't be towed away blocking roads 😂

There are bound to be some issues at first, like the guy found trying to stuff petrol in his EV bike last week - there's always one

However, bikes are going to be less of a problem because they can be home charged with ease.

Unfortunately the price of a decent e bike is way high , and the range is too low .

I will stick with my economic Nmax for the forseeable future .

scouser59 wrote:

Unfortunately the price of a decent e bike is way high , and the range is too low .

I will stick with my economic Nmax for the forseeable future .

That, sadly, is true .. for the moment. The proposed Honda E bike will change that.
It's a pity really as the Gesits is a very nice machine but its price ruled it out for me.

IF the government is serious about EV’s, they should subsidize sales, unless you make the purchase price comparable, start building charging stations like crazy, it’s gonna stay a gimmick that most people will not be interested in to buy.

That's a massive investment. I'm aware the government is trying but I'm unsure how much they can push it.
However, a surprise is very likely to happen in the near future.

No one even considers the damages required to make the use of only EV's possible. Most power grids will become overloaded from all the recharges, and any coal fired plants will make the pollution much worse than it already is, unless they all go NUCLEAR, which puts us all in danger in case of NUCLEAR meltdowns, especially on unstable grounds here in Indonesia . Switching to EV's is NOT the answer, and they know it.

Hopefully, the latest solar generation plans will help. However, the Capex is massive.

EVs are off to a slow start - probably because prices are still high and charging atations are a little on the rare side.

https://money.kompas.com/read/2022/03/2 … 16060-unit

Kompas reports a grand total of around 16,00 units on the roads today, but that situation is likely to change when production of the new, very cheap, Chinese cars starts.

The beauty of these cars will be the ability to charge at home without increasing a home's power rating.
Overnight slow charging should be enough for most people, and a 60 million Rupiah car will attract a lot of customers.
I see a massive change on its way.