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sfowler2760
Hello everyone, I'm Scott and I have been toying with expating to say...Cebu in the not to distant future. Like most of you I'm guessing, I want to live better with less. I also love scuba diving and don't get the chance much in the states. That being said, can anyone speak to living in Cebu. I'll have about 1600 a month income and backup in the bank. I'm low maintenance mostly but like to splurge now and then, is that enough?
Frank Lyszkiewicz
@sfowler2760
Hi mate I think that would be ok depending on where you want to live in cebu if you go on YouTube and find sunshine shoulders he's just done a cost for living video that may help you are if you still want to know in a couple of months then let me know and I'll tell you as I go to cebu on the 10th of August ho yes amazing Philippines channel is a good one to as he's living in cebu city and dose a lot of costs of living videos
sfowler2760
Thanks Frank, I started reading other blogs on this site about the cost of living here and was not surprised to hear so many contradictory answers there were to this question. It seems to me that maybe some expats don't want any more of us joining them because maybe the " foreigners " money drives inflation there, or the ones who retired "really well " ie...company pension, 3k a month in SS, etc, are dismissive because they can live like royalty and why tell the truth. One guy said don't believe the travel logs and sites about how cheap it is to live there! How does one separate fact from fiction?
tpiro

@sfowler2760  scott... I don't see why not.. that $1,600 per month should carry you through with no problem if you're not a big party'r or big spender.  However, a little extra wouldn't hurt if you have it to add to the 1.6k.   A pretty good condo 1 or 2 br rent about $300-$400/mth, utils together w/AC's (just don't go crazy AC 24/7 high and blasting) will run ya about $300-$350 maybe with Internet (that runs $39/mth) but Sky Cable and PLDT have different plans. Your food is up to you of what you like.. we eat a lot of chicken, some rice, eggs, pork chops, some breads, soups, coffee, etc.  We cook mostly at home.  Transportation can run ya about 1,000peso+ / mth depending how many trip to make to the malls... roughly $15-$25+... take tricycles a lot cheaper.. like 60-90 peso if not going real far.  If you shop for rents and sharpen your food selections and watch your transportation spending.. you might be able to widdle your expenses a bit.  Hope this helps ya some...   Later, T

tpiro

@sfowler2760 oh yea scott forgot to tell ya.. we live on Mactan there in Cebu.

pnwcyclist
It all depends on your lifestyle of course, and whether you have kids (yours or those of a potential partner). As tpiro said, $1600 would be enough for a single guy, living a modest but comfortable lifestyle.

But add a car, a girlfriend with kids, or a lot of eating out at western style restaurants.. and you will double that. I fall into the latter category, family of 4, one still in private school and car/motorbikes. And we eat out fairly frequently.

Keep in mind that in two years inflation may raise that $1600 to close to $2000.
talamban

@sfowler2760 You can count me in as one of those who is "Retiring Well" with 3K+ per month of income. I watch and record my expenses to a ridiculous degree on an Excel Spreadsheet carried out until 2025 with estimated COLA increases. It is only my Filipina Partner and I - No Kids. We spend $2,000 per month on "Recurring Expenses" including $360 for rent of a 60 Square meter condo in Talamban. Food and household items runs me about $650 including about $100 for cheap wine & beer with Dinner - No Daytime Drinking. Electricity is expensive here - I spend about $200/month with one inverter AC on nearly 24/7. What is the difference between my 3K income and 2K Recurring Expenses? Being older, I spend an average of $200 monthly on Meds. Some Med therapy devices added about $2,500 this year. Replacement of Phones or Laptops (only once every five years, but still a budget consideration) add more. Some Financial Assistance to GF's family, especially after Typhoon damages or "Papa has no food". And, I save/budget for trip back to USA to pay Cash without credit card debt. That is about 9 to 10 K including expenses while there so I am not a financial burden to my family, who are already taxed by the inflation and other crap going on in the USA at this time. Add an occasional piece of Jewelry, Rebonding etc. of GF long hair, a short vacation in the Province, and you are up to 3K+ per month. I lift Comfortably, but not luxuriously. Being Single and living sparingly outside a major city with no Med Issues, and not going home for for Family Vacation, you can probably live here for $1,500 to $2,000 without any Cushion for emergencies or travel. Regular Monthly Income of any kind is the key, whether SS, Pension, 401K, Annuity, or whatever.

GoDees
Hello Scott.
I also live on Mactan, near Grand Mall. That is US$1600, correct ? That would be about P80,000, quite enough for a modest lifestyle here. Best to rent a furnished condo for the first 6 months till you can make your choices, then l would recommend an unfurnished unit, the cost difference pays for appliances. Chat any time when you get here. 
regards  Bruce
Enzyte Bob
Thanks Frank, I started reading other blogs on this site about the cost of living here and was not surprised to hear so many contradictory answers there were to this question. It seems to me that maybe some expats don't want any more of us joining them because maybe the " foreigners " money drives inflation there, or the ones who retired "really well " ie...company pension, 3k a month in SS, etc, are dismissive because they can live like royalty and why tell the truth. One guy said don't believe the travel logs and sites about how cheap it is to live there! How does one separate fact from fiction?
- @sfowler2760

(1) I doubt that  "that foreigners" drive up inflation. World economics dictates inflation, the Philippines goes along for the ride.

(2) Expats who live here don't give a hoot if you move here or not, it has no effect them.

(3) Are you suggesting that those with deep pockets and live like royalty are not truthful?

(4) Expats fall into several financial categories. . . Deep Pockets, Pockets, No pockets.

(5) How Expats in the Philippines choose to live is not necessarily indicative of their finances.

(6) Fact or Fiction is blurred, I would be more inclined to believe an Expat Forum than a blog or Youtube channel who may have a motivation beneficial to themselves.

(7) The choices are simple: How you want to live in the Philippines or How you have to live in the Philippines.
talamban

@sfowler2760 I should add to my previous Post on Living Expenses that I give my Partner about $160 per month that she can spend as she chooses. She was working before and earning the same, so I wanted her to give me 24/7 attention and caregiving. So, I thought only fair to replace her previous income. I still pay extra for Other Stuff, so it really comes to about $400 per month. Medical, Meds, Dental (All Filipinas seem to need Dental Work), Clothes, small jewelry items, manicures/pedicures, extra money for family when needed. Money that I give or spend on her is included in my $2,000 per month Recurring expenses. We will be spending money - Budgeting about $6,000 - on a very small House In The Provinces in 2025 of which she will save/pay for half.

FilAmericanMom
Hello everyone, I'm Scott and I have been toying with expating to say...Cebu in the not to distant future. Like most of you I'm guessing, I want to live better with less. I also love scuba diving and don't get the chance much in the states. That being said, can anyone speak to living in Cebu. I'll have about 1600 a month income and backup in the bank. I'm low maintenance mostly but like to splurge now and then, is that enough?
- @sfowler2760

What is concerning for me is when you mentioned "like to splurge now and then."

US$1,600 / month is doable if you monitor and keep within your budget, maybe even save 10-20% of your budget for emergencies and inflation. If I were you, I would stick with a US$1,400 budget and set aside US$200 for emergencies.

BTW, scuba diving is not a cheap hobby. And there are dangers in scuba diving. You could end up having a medical emergency which  might wipe out not just your budget but also part of your "backup in the bank." Go instead for a cheaper, safer and more practical hobby, like cooking or gardening. They might not be as appealing or exciting as scuba diving, but at least the possibility of ending up like that homeless German national we mentioned in another thread / topic becomes less.

Just my 2 cents.
Lotus Eater
@sfowler2760

You can double that budget if you shack up with a 'high maintenance' woman
coach53
Hello everyone, I'm Scott and I have been toying with expating to say...Cebu in the not to distant future. Like most of you I'm guessing, I want to live better with less. I also love scuba diving and don't get the chance much in the states. That being said, can anyone speak to living in Cebu. I'll have about 1600 a month income and backup in the bank. I'm low maintenance mostly but like to splurge now and then, is that enough?
- @sfowler2760
I suppouse doable BUT:
/Cebu city is one of the most expensive parts in the Philippines, so you can get same living standard for rather much less in most other places.
/Problem with dirty water there.
/There are much better places elsewhere in Philippines for diving.   
E g a foreigner travelling around in the world making TV programs about nice nature said Palawan have the best diving he has ever seen.  You can rent a VILLA there from around 160 usd per month, some more at beach and an ok room in a boarding house in Puerto Princesa city cost only 60 usd per month.

So why chose Cebu??   :)
tpiro
Hey Scott...  wanted to add that we are a family of 3.  My flipina is low maintenance, she has a 10 yr old daughter that is a little expense per month b/c of private school attending.. but that is worth the cost for her that runs about 3k+ pesos a month.... Shit! put your kid in a private school in the States and see if runs about $60 / month... don't think so... hehe.  Take that advise about trying to spend $1,400 / mth and socking away that remainder for emergencies.  I keep about 3k USD in my account for emergencies in case I end up in a hospital b/c if you can't prove you have the bucks, ur shit out of luck .. they won't admit you.  May I suggest a Charles Schwab card..  they reimburse you monthly for all abroad fees and you can use their card anywhere in the Phils... I have not had a problem... all is smooth with them.
sekmet
@Enzyte Bob absolutely better take.

There ought to be a sticky on this topic.
coach53
(1) I doubt that  "that foreigners" drive up inflation. World economics dictates inflation, the Philippines goes along for the ride.
- @Enzyte Bob
Well. Except for some real estates.  Rather many foreigners pay to much, some stupid to much pushing up prices. E g one bought a beach lot for more than 4 times the normal price there...
Sometimes such even make problem for other SELLERS by they expect to get similar far to much too and dont get sold by that.  Some Filipinos even RAISE the price when they dont get sold in long time!!!  1f923.svg
Frank Lyszkiewicz

@sfowler2760  yeah i know what you mean i think it depends on the lifestyle you want me I just want a quiet one where i can go fore a walk in the countryside and a cup of tea in the local town or village when i feel like it and visit waterfalls things like that but different towns and city's will need a different budget. I hope you find the right place for you take care and good luck

Jackson4

@sfowler2760

I visited a dive gear shop at Maremegmeg, El Nido, Palawan last week. BCD, fins, goggles, tank, wetsuit, weights cost about twice compared to the US. One dive in a group setting might set you back $100 for 2 dives on the same day. Usually a boat dive. I have not seen a shore dive in the Philippines. I bought a replacement latch on sale for my fins (does not include strap) $7.00 in El Nido. The same cost 4 bucks in the US for a pair. I am guessing since you like SCUBA diving you'd be living near the ocean. It will be hot days and warm nights. You might need A/C and cold beer$. It is becoming apparent your $1,600 may fall short on your expectations.

hnryy

@sfowler2760


Hi. I think you will be ok but you can live a more comfortable lifestyle if you purchased a property for about 20k - 40k USD. Thats about 1 - 2 million pesos. And then if you had a car. You can find many used cars or condos or town houses for sale on Facebook. Make sure it is a clean title. Eliminating those 2 expenses would make 1600 livable and comfortable in my opinion.

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