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Last activity 27 September 2022 by Aidan in HCMC

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OceanBeach92107
After the first tremor occurred at Kon Plong at around 2pm on Tuesday with a magnitude of 4.7, 11 more tremors were recorded with scales ranging from 2.5 to 2.9 magnitude.
Although the 4.7-magnitude earthquake was the strongest recorded in the area in more than 100 years, the level of disaster risk is 0, which means the tremors are not likely to cause loss of life, injury, or destroy or damage assets (VIETNAM NEWS)
Mac68
After the first tremor occurred at Kon Plong at around 2pm on Tuesday with a magnitude of 4.7, 11 more tremors were recorded with scales ranging from 2.5 to 2.9 magnitude.
Although the 4.7-magnitude earthquake was the strongest recorded in the area in more than 100 years, the level of disaster risk is 0, which means the tremors are not likely to cause loss of life, injury, or destroy or damage assets (VIETNAM NEWS)
- @OceanBeach92107
Thanks for the heads up and info OB,
(As you  know), earthquakes are common worldwide, really common USA, CA.
Worst I was involved w was Loma Prieta, North Ridge, CA. (6.8-6.9 Richter scale1989) We saw broken welds in buildings, bolt ups, old riveted ones,  were less damaged, Bridges disintegrated concrete, like breaking glass, Attempted fixes were hoped to arrest  future damage. However, this earthquake was more odd than others, most are rollers, 1989 North Ridge was an up down, slammer, (best lay explanation). Not common at all.
Don't know what VN. experienced in terms of  type of earthquake. Would be interesting to find out.

MAc
OceanBeach92107
I just thought this was worth sharing because back in 2017, I recall doing a Google search about seismic activity in Vietnam.

I was encouraged to discover that it technically sits outside the "ring of fire" to the West.

Technicalities...
Guestposter655
@OceanBeach92107 I read about this. Was kind of surprised I guess. All the time I spent across Vietnam I don't recall a single earthquake. When I was in Taipei Taiwan my last day after three months, we had a nice one. Taiwan is situated along the pacific rim so earthquakes are common. They built the Taipei 101 tower on these roller things I got to see when touring the building. I guess Saigon does not have them because when I did the bitexco tower thing, they never mentioned it. Worst one for me was the Sylmar one. I think that was in 1971 or so?

Thanks for the news OB. I'll just wander around Hanoi this next time. Only torrential rain there now 1f602.svg
Sobie
@OceanBeach92107 Yesterday an article in Vnexpress:"According to prior assessments, earthquakes in Kon Plong have been caused by water reservoirs"
River Frogs

@Sobie I'm a civil engineer. On my first Vietnam project, I questioned the structural design consultant about TCVN seismic building codes. No answer, only a sideways smirk. On every new design project since I'll raise the question, but it goes no further. I only want the question to be included in the design meeting minutes. I'm not an alarmist or the sky is falling. But it's always in the back of my mind.

Mac68

@Sobie I'm a civil engineer. On my first Vietnam project, I questioned the structural design consultant about TCVN seismic building codes. No answer, only a sideways smirk. On every new design project since I'll raise the question, but it goes no further. I only want the question to be included in the design meeting minutes. I'm not an alarmist or the sky is falling. But it's always in the back of my mind.

- @River Frogs


We are building our home here in Old My Tho, the contractor we are using gave use a decent proposal, including the structural design criteria, piers, rebar, concrete specs, etc. When we started w the design for the build, I told the contractor I'm only interested in the engineering, the rest is up to my wife. Seems we built a good working relationship. My background is that of structural engineering, Crane surveyor, etc.

I wonder as a civil, why they do not respect your background. My experience has taught me, through working closely with a structural Engineer, You are not an alarmist ,but need to be respected as the professional you are, math is math, algorithms are a universal language. Frankly  would question the same as you have. We did a project in San Diego CA. for UC Test pool, quite some years ago, the SE on the job took our design used for estimating, clearly stamped "Not for Construction" Engineering is for CBA only. In the end there were no sway bracings for the flag poled columns, they screwed up terribly, and in the end the admission came. So I believe you are correct where requesting a copy of drawings and engineering. I know it is in Tieng Viet, but Google Translate does a pretty good job of converting PDF files to English language. If you are to work as a consultant, required info is all you are asking for.

Best of everything to you,

MAc
Mac68

@River Frogs


Greetings River Frogs,


MAc here.


Well we've done our first day at our new construction site, of our home. Plans show and tell etc.,

Today was the first day of piers/piles installation.  It is done with hydraulic press, not driven.

Each pile is 6 meter. 3 pile equals one pier.

After the beginning install, the site super of the contractor asked  my wife (She speak Tieng Viet, I do not)

if we would do 4 piers, into this soil.  I was taken aback by this after she explained to me, the contractor said it

'would be better' but using USD as a calc. about 2,000 USD more. 

I balked at this as an issue. As the completed 18 meter pier do not go to bedrock, what was the point?

he stated 'it would be better'

Of course my wife was flummoxed. I was not. I'd been on too many jobs before, but not in Viet Nam.

This soil tell me here in the Delta, that no matter what you do, if you cannot go to bedrock, it is the work of the piles and the foundations to float, and remain in place, concrete, rebar, constructed beams. across, etc., moisture draw down.

The engineering is the same plan as the home built two lots over, same soil. Same dimensions, etc, height, width, depth of structure, same construction. Piers on that unit are 3 piles of 18 meters each. Proper engineering of pile centers.

I consulted with the inspector who was on site from Tien Giang, Province. He concurred that the 18 meter pile is adequate.

I thought this might interest you.


MAc

Aidan in HCMC

Reports (unconfirmed) today from a friend in VN Highlands of a 3.2 quake, at around 12:00 noon.

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