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FilAmericanMom

I think this is one very important info that expats, especially those who have not yet experienced being hospitalized in the Philippines, should know: Socialized Pricing in Hospitals.  In simple terms, the higher the cost of your hospital room, the higher the price for hospital services.  This rule is adopted by most, if not all, hospitals in Metro Manila.

Does that mean that someone in a hospital ward, who is paying a lot less than someone in a large suite, would have to take his own blood pressure, temperature, push his own wheelchair, change bandages on his own, or deliver a medical specimen to the lab himself, because he is charged less?  Of course not.  He would receive the same medical service, as if he were in any other room.

Conversely, would the one at the large suite get extras like foot massages, pedicures, dinner by candlelight, or serenaded with a string quartet because he's paying more?  Nope.

In one of the local hospitals near our home, there's not much difference between the PhP1,650 / day "regular private room" and PhP4,200 / day "semi-suite".  Both have a companion bed, tv with cable, aircon, refrigerator, direct line phone, private bathroom, closet, and side table with drawers.  The floor space for walking is the same.  The only difference was the extra furnishings: a small table with chairs, a tall chair with an ottoman, and an extra sink.  That's it.

So, if you ever get hospitalized, take a peek first at the available rooms. Maybe you can do without the extras. And if you feel like upgrading to a more expensive room, consider first that it's not only the difference in the room rates you have to pay extra, but also a premium over the cost of services. It's likely your xray, blood tests, nurse and doctors will be more expensive too.  And the more of these services you need, the more you'll have to pay for services than if you stayed in a cheaper room, even if the service is exactly the same.

Keep safe expats.

GuestPoster874

I got from my experience in Cebu city that doctors are suck in the Philippines. I had a very simple problem in my abdomen area and after 3 months and using many wrong medication and spending lots of money for blood tests and CT SCAN they finally didn't find what is the problem. when i back to my country the first doctor i met , (he was just a general doctor) find the problem and with only two weeks using medication my problem is gone.
I think its better for you to go back your country if you get sick in the Philippines.

angelstirera

Ey Khoda! come on! u can't generalize your one bad experience for all the doctors here! My dad was in U.S.A. and he was misdiagnosed 3x but i can't say that the doctor in the states sucks!


givmaster wrote:

I got from my experience in Cebu city that doctors are suck in the Philippines. I had a very simple problem in my abdomen area and after 3 months and using many wrong medication and spending lots of money for blood tests and CT SCAN they finally didn't find what is the problem. when i back to my country the first doctor i met , (he was just a general doctor) find the problem and with only two weeks using medication my problem is gone.
I think its better for you to go back your country if you get sick in the Philippines.

FilAmericanMom

givmaster wrote:

I got from my experience in Cebu city that doctors are suck in the Philippines. I had a very simple problem in my abdomen area and after 3 months and using many wrong medication and spending lots of money for blood tests and CT SCAN they finally didn't find what is the problem. when i back to my country the first doctor i met , (he was just a general doctor) find the problem and with only two weeks using medication my problem is gone.
I think its better for you to go back your country if you get sick in the Philippines.


My worst doctor's visit experience here in the Philippines was my then 15-month old son's first visit with a pediatrician at St. Luke's hospital in Quezon City.  He looked inside my son's mouth and saw two blue discolorations with a small bump on either side of his gums almost exactly opposite each other. He said it looked like they were moles, and that we will have to see a specialist to check them. 

I remember clearly that my son's pedia in the US, back when we were there and my son was around 9 months old, said not to be alarmed by the blue discoloration on his gums.  She said it's just a tooth coming out, which was putting pressure on his gums causing a bruise. And it will disappear once the tooth is out. I told this to the Philippine pediatrician, and he said I would still need to see a specialist. Which we did that same day.

The specialist said that it could be a mole and that she'll need to take a biopsy of it.  What???? So, it means that my son would have to go to an operating room to get the biopsy done.  He wouldn't be able to eat for a few days, and he'd have to be on an IV. His arm would have to be strapped on the bed so he can't take out the needle, and he will be sedated. What the . . !!! 

We told her it could be just teething bruise, but she would have none of it, and even took out her appointment book to schedule our son for the biopsy.  Whoa!  We went with our instincts, and just politely told her that we'll wait first for the next few weeks to see what happens to the bruise, and then decide if we want to undergo what she said.  We never went back to her, and switched to a new pediatrician.

My son is now 4 years old. Does he still have a "mole" in his gums?  Nope.  Did he undergo a potentially traumatic biopsy?  Nope.  Have the bruises disappeared?  Yep. Soon right after two teeth exactly opposite each other broke out.

I'm glad we went by our instincts and refused the biopsy, otherwise, our son could have been physically traumatized, and perhaps psychologically too, from what he'd have to go through.  Scary thought.

I can't say whether those two doctors were good doctors or bad doctors.  It's up to the reader of this post to judge.  But one generalization I do can say is that the doctors we've seen in the Philippines, not just these two, are too quick to jump the gun when it comes to doing testing and other invasive procedures.

At one time my husband was hospitalized for pneumonia, and he started having headaches at the back of his head close to his neck.  The doctor told us my husband would have to get a CT scan.  We waited for the nurse to bring him to the lab / radiology, but no one came.  For the meantime, I called home to have one of our nice pillows brought to the hospital.  After replacing the hospital pillows with our better ones, the headaches disappeared.

GuestPoster874

maybe my Philippino friends here don't like what i said but to be honest its all true. as I saw many cases like mine because of my job which is physical therapist in the hospital. i was a year there in the hospital and saw many funny stories.
my American friend went to the hospital and complain about a pain in his lower part of abdomen in the left side about the groin area
at the fist the general doctor diagnose it as UTI. After using one week antibiotic , nothing change on him. then the doctor  refer him to a nephrologist !!! and after one month of tests and using some medication the nephro refer him to a internal doctor and amazingly the internal doctor told him that he may has Lymphoma !!! :O then my friend was so scared and he left the Philippines and he back to the states and after 2 days he just called and told me the good and funny news.
it was just a simple varicocele hahahaha

FilAmericanMom

givmaster wrote:

maybe my Philippino friends here don't like what i said but to be honest its all true. as I saw many cases like mine because of my job which is physical therapist in the hospital. i was a year there in the hospital and saw many funny stories.
my American friend went to the hospital and complain about a pain in his lower part of abdomen in the left side about the groin area
at the fist the general doctor diagnose it as UTI. After using one week antibiotic , nothing change on him. then the doctor  refer him to a nephrologist !!! and after one month of tests and using some medication the nephro refer him to a internal doctor and amazingly the internal doctor told him that he may has Lymphoma !!! :O then my friend was so scared and he left the Philippines and he back to the states and after 2 days he just called and told me the good and funny news.
it was just a simple varicocele hahahaha


Hey, if the pediatrician here failed to put two and two together about the blue discoloration on my son's gums as a teething bruise, and wanted to do a biopsy, I'm not surprised about your friend's experience.

I'm not a doctor, but just these signs should make anyone treat the blue discoloration as a toddler's teething bruise, and not as cancer:
* two blue discolorations on his gums, left and right, and directly opposite each other
* the same color and same bump size (which the specialist referred to as a "mole")
* right behind the teeth that are already out
* teething age

Our experience wasn't funny to us at all.  It was scary.

toffee leong

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