Menu
Expat.com

Can hospital detain a patient for non-payment?

Last activity 24 July 2023 by Bhavna

Post new topic

ShamsD

Marhaba everyone. This will be my first time posting in this forum and I would like to introduce myself.

My name is Shamsiah. I was born & raised in Singapore but for the last 10 years I have been living in Canada with my husband. As we approach retirement age we are looking for options of relocating to retire - somewhere where it is not freezing cold for 5 months of the year & with a lower cost of living than where we are currently. We are considering Turkey .

However for a start I would like to seek advice on behalf of a fellow Singaporean who is on a work project for about 2 months in Turkey. He works as an engineer in an off-shore rig off the Sea of Marmara. A few weeks into the work project my friend's credit card & bank card got stolen when he went to Istanbul. He made a police report and informed his bank in Singapore about his stolen cards. The bank locked his account to avoid possible misuse. This is when his trouble started. He could not get any funds to support him for his work project & his company in Singapore is of no help. 2 weeks ago he collapsed during work and was sent to A Hospital. Now almost better, he could not pay for his hospital bill which is already close to 100,000 TRY. The hospital has detained him because he could not make payment . They have stopped giving him food & medication until it is paid. He has contacted the Singapore Consulate in Istanbul but they need him to appear in person at the Consulate before they can help. My question is:


Does the Hospital have the legal right to detain a patient for non-payment?

Is it legal for the hospital to stop providing nourishment for someone they detained?


I would appreciate if anyone can offer advice or even help in this situation. Thank you in advance.


Warm regards-Shamsiah Daud

Muji86

This is a vey unfortunate sequence of events.


Although I don't know the rules around this but ine thing for anyone moving over is that they jeed to absolutely not rely on a single bank abroad.


I have multiple ways of transferring money into my Turkish accounts and have multiple foreign cards which can be used in most places.


With foreign card you'd want to have a way of retrieving a new card ahould you lose your existing one.


Easy to say after the fact but on a personal level it's what I've done in advance and yes we did get robbed and my wife lost all her cards and it was not a massive deal as a result. Yes it was an issue and it took weeks to process but replacing everything and getting a foreign bank card (Revolut amd Wise) delivered to Turkey was quicker than replacing the Turkish bank cards!


Traditional bank cards had to be sent by relatives in the UK

dncole4156

@ShamsD First of all your choice to retire in Turkey is a great choice. To answer some of your questions will take a little research on my part. But one thing to know is the hospitals here can not turn a patient away. Financial requirements come in as a second thing to be considered. I have a lot of information for you as I retired here from the USA 2 years ago. I will talk about the banking issues and everything related to making a life for yourself in a later posting if you want to make contact with me. Retiring to Turkey is the number 1 best thing I ever did in my life. Be prepared to pick a city you want to live in based on your current lifestyle. That is the number 1 most important thing to first do. Even though I have not done as much traveling in Turkey I have great resources to help you go thru the process. Every day I go to the pool to get my exercise here at the complex where I currently live. And it is now time for me to go. So again, I am here for you to answer any questions you might have, and there will be many things to consider. Talk to you later my friend.

ShamsD

Good afternoon DnCole, thank you for your reply. I would really appreciate any information regarding my friend's current situation. It's like a chicken & egg situation. He can get help if he can reach the Singapore consulate and possibly pay his hospital bill. On the other hand the hospital refuses to release him to reach them.

I look forward to hearing from you and chatting about happier things other than my friend's predicament.

ShamsD

@Muji86 Good day and thank you so much for connecting with me. I was of the same thought about having more than one bank account and to have an international health insurance and to report to the Singapore Consulate immediately upon arrival in Istanbul. But it is what is it.  If only the Hospital would trust him enough to release him to get to the consulate. I think that would be a win win situation - my friend can get help to get funds from his bank in Singapore and the hospital can get paid.

Anyhow, I am praying for the best outcome out of this mess. Again, thank you and have a great day.

cdw057

@ShamsD I am just simple, if a credit card gets stolen, the company has to give a solution, DHL another one, or just communicate with the hospital, Wat type of company is this? It is not about the hospital (I would already imagine you have insurance anyhow if you work ???(why not), the credit card story does not fit.


You have to pay, simple as that, not getting food (apologies, I do not believe a word, Turkey is a good country, are you letting you die at their risk)


Sounds strange at the least.

cdw057

By the way living in Canada and no bank accounts or assets there (what did you do?). Really are you really poor? I would say no good preperation, when I left with my wife to Turkey we had/have accounts in Netherlands, Luxembourg, Hungary and Turkey (no credit cards, but not essential at all). Bottom line when reading it sounds like a clever scam in the making.

No other assets in Singapore or Canada, together with husband, let us be realistic, just a few USD/EUR, you can help yourself, your family, but most importantly you have a relationship with your creditcard/bank card company and they can not block and send a replacement.

ShamsD

@cdw057

Good afternoon and thank you for your reply. I can understand your skepticism but you are not reading my message properly. It is not about me getting my credit card stolen but about a fellow Singporean facing this situation now in Istanbul. Your opinions on the situation is so naive. Did I ask for money? No I did not. I am looking for advice or information to help him get out of this situation. You are entitled to your opinion of course.

cdw057

Just curious, why do you not have any assets in Canada where you lived for many years, why do you not have a good relationship with your bank in Singapore. If my card would be stolen, what is the issue? Many things can be arranged by phone.

You do not have to ask for money, ask for your own, how can it be possible that your own bank does not help you?

cdw057

@ShamsD Honestly what is TRY 100 K, just around maximum USD 4 K, what is the problem?

No bank accounts (even without card), bank accounts only in Singapore (having lived in Canada for 10 years?), no family at all. Just pay and not complain about a little problem of payment) . As a side note I reported you as a scam, but the post is still active.

cdw057

@ShamsD If you are a real friend you will pay.

cdw057

No replies at all, I trust all has been settled with your bank and invoices paid. Happy for that. Just curious, did you pay for your friend (again TRY 100 K is acceptable).

cdw057

@ShamsD As per other posts, if you are a real friend pay for him, alternatively contact his bank on his behalf even from hospital (he seems to be fine apart from balance due)

Bhavna

Hello everyone,


Please note that we are temporarily closing this thread for review.


Sorry for the onconvenience

Bhavna


[Topic Closed]

Closed

Articles to help you in your expat project in Türkiye

  • The health system in Türkiye
    The health system in Türkiye

    It is needless to stress the importance of health coverage in a foreign country. Fortunately, Türkiye has a ...

  • Having a baby in Türkiye
    Having a baby in Türkiye

    The journey of parenthood is an exhilarating adventure filled with joy, anticipation, and a fair share of ...

  • Health insurance in Türkiye
    Health insurance in Türkiye

    The healthcare system in Turkey has advanced significantly and now offers a combination of private and state ...

  • Accidents and Emergencies in Türkiye
    Accidents and Emergencies in Türkiye

    Safety should be your number one priority at all times. Knowing what to do during an accident or emergency is ...

  • Marriage in Türkiye
    Marriage in Türkiye

    Türkiye, with its stunning landscapes and rich cultural heritage, has become a sought-after wedding ...

  • Phones and Internet in Türkiye
    Phones and Internet in Türkiye

    When you move to Türkiye, setting up your own phone and internet is a smart move to make right off the bat. ...

  • Retire in Türkiye
    Retire in Türkiye

    Türkiye, a perfect blend of history, culture, and breathtaking landscapes, is viewed by many as an ideal ...

  • Childcare in Türkiye
    Childcare in Türkiye

    Türkiye is a great place for kids, thanks to its incredibly child-friendly culture. Everywhere you turn, ...

All of Türkiye's guide articles