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Approval of citizenship and real-world experience..MJSP/PF

Last activity 04 August 2024 by Amoremeu

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Nomad Mundo

Greetings to all....My citizenship was finally approved last week. The new system (Naturalizar-se Brasileiro) allowed me to do everything on my own. Aside from the PF, I appreciate their system. You're all welcome to share your most current experiences.1f60e.svg1f60e.svg

Bhavna

@Nomad Mundo Hello Congrats ^^


Thank you for sharing the good news with us.


All the best

Bhavna

NewBrazil

Is Naturalizar-se Brasileiro any different procedure. What are the requirements do you speak Portuguese fluently. I am permanent resident so is this the requirement first or is it being a relative of a Brazilian. Thank for your response

Nomad Mundo

@NewBrazil Nope.. It's the same thing online MJSP site. You need to complete a Portuguese for foreigners course from a public university here in Brazil. It must be 200 or more hours of coursework with transcript given by the university itself. Make sure to confirm from the university that they give relevant documents and not online certification since PF won't accept it. If you have son or wife only 1-2 years of permanent residency is required, if not 4-5 years. Rest is same required documents and process. 😀

Nomad Mundo

@Bhavna Thanks 😊😊

John Medros

@Nomad Mundo

Hi Nomad good to hear about your citizenship. wanted to ask how long does your process take when it's get to the MJSP in brasilia ?

Thanks

Nomad Mundo

@John Medros.. If everything is good with your application, then the analyst of your case contact you for a formal interview and your approval will be published in DOU within a week. It's takes about 3-4 months after reaching MJSP

ahmad raza57

i applied it already one and half passed nobody visited or even i did not get any email from PF how long it takes first response from PF about naturalization request online did they visit your home if yes how long after you register for it please share your experience

John Medros

@Nomad Mundo Thanks just 1 month now at MJSP will be waiting and hoping to have good news from them.

John Medros

@ahmad raza57 it's take 6 month for them to call you for biometric if your document all are ok within  1 - 6 month you will received message from PF.

Nomad Mundo

@ahmad raza57 Have you completed the PF office's biometric and document verification process?

ahmad raza57

@Nomad Mundo not yet its almost 42 days passed i applied but application showing "ANALISE PF"

even they did not visit my house and not send me an email

Nomad Mundo

@ahmad raza57.. Don't worry... They would contact you within 180 days after the application. Keep logging in and check the application response tap.

ahmad raza57

@Nomad Mundo i am doing it every day,,,,,

i want to ask is it compulsory PF visit to your home? because sometime for work i am not available at home

Nomad Mundo

@ahmad raza57 Yes..PF would certainly visit to confirm the information you provided in your application. They normally visit after 5pm.. Rest be assured that it's their duty as well to do it the right way.👍

ahmad raza57

it took how long with your case shifted from PF to MJSP?

Nomad Mundo

@ahmad raza57.. The transfer process took just under ten months...Everything will work out if you just have patience. Note:-According to Law nº 12.008/09, priority will be given in all instances to processes whose applicants are 60 (sixty) years of age or older, or have a serious illness.


Just Pray, Everything will be fine inshallah.1f64b.svg

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GuestPoster376

Congrats to the OP !!


It's one year by marriage, as that is my personal situation.


As I will be technically "retired" on paper with the RF I don't have to spend time and money to sit thru the language course.

John Medros

Hi Everyone ,

My Naturalization was approve yesterday after 1 month at MJSP and the total process was just about 9 months. didn't have any PF visit my house just after  6 months in Analise PF  was ask for more documents and after i went for biometric and was sent to  MJSP which took 1month and few days.

going to do my RG and Electoral titular and was told above 40yrs you dont required military service.


Just wanted to give updates on my process everything went successful .


Thanks

Bhavna

@John Medros


Congrats John !


Thank you for updating us and sharing your experience.


All the very best

Bhavna

ahmad raza57

Congratulations 👏🎉

AfroPrince

Hi @Nomad Mundo and @John Medros belated congratulations!


It has been a few years since I attempted to naturalise.  Seems the process has changed again.  Are you able to guide a little on the new process - seems a little easier now?

abthree


01/02/24    Hi Everyone ,
My Naturalization was approve yesterday after 1 month at MJSP and the total process was just about 9 months. didn't have any PF visit my house just after  6 months in Analise PF  was ask for more documents and after i went for biometric and was sent to  MJSP which took 1month and few days.
going to do my RG and Electoral titular and was told above 40yrs you dont required military service.
Just wanted to give updates on my process everything went successful .

Thanks
   

    -@John Medros


Congratulations!

John Medros

@AfroPrince

Yes @Afroprince everything now little more easier than way i thought before the Covid-19. Just only Portuguese Language Certificate and Aula Presencial   Mandatory and the rest document shouldn't be difficult to get and just upload it online and always try to be checking your email or login online to the Portal with gov.br access to be checking just incase necessary additional documents is need.  Aside this there's nothing special or difficult about apply for the Naturalization.

If any question you can ask.

John Medros

@abthree


Thank @abthree 1f60e.svg

AfroPrince

Thanks so much @John Medros, did you have any online resource that guided the process at all?

dyantyi28

@John Medros Congratulation


How did you find out that your application was approved ?

John Medros

@dyantyi28


https://www.in.gov.br/consulta/-/buscar … sortType=0


you can keep checking here twice in a week if could not everyday. once your process is in MJSP after 1 month keep checking everyday  under MIGRATÓRIOS  or with your name you will see there if it's been approved

dyantyi28

@John Medros Thank you,  I applied for Provisional Citizenship for my Children, the applications progressed to the MJSP phase after 4 Months of being at the PF phase

GuestPoster376

Great info, thx everyone. Gonna be doing this process in 6 months from now, and am archiving links from this site for future reference just in case.


Interesting that the law says your Portuguese language skills must be "equal to your life needs" more or less........implying that a person with passive income, and/or a retired status, or simply over 60, etc......needs nothing at all like is the case in many countries, or, has to be scored at a language level that is significantly different (lower) than from someone else, who is qualified to be employed as a medical person, or an engineer, for example.


I am fluent anyways, so, why would I need a 200 hour course ? Been told it's not applicable however, in a conversation that I had which took place in Portuguese with the PF. So, we'll see if I have to endure this as well when the time comes......heh.

hbkhan003

Hi everyone


I applied for te naturalization process in the february last year and it took a long time for the PF visit but finally they visited and forwarded my  case to the MJSP. My case was forwarded to MJSP in the beginning of december last year but so far although more than 3 months already passed there is no update on my case. there is no issue in the documentation or anyother kind of issues in my case. I  want to know how long it takes at the MJSP phase to finalize? is there any deadline or an estimated duration in which the case is finalized?

hbkhan003

Hi everyone




I applied for te naturalization process in the february last year and it took a long time for the PF visit but finally they visited and forwarded my  case to the MJSP. My case was forwarded to MJSP in the beginning of december last year but so far although more than 3 months already passed there is no update on my case. there is no issue in the documentation or anyother kind of issues in my case. I  want to know how long it takes at the MJSP phase to finalize? is there any deadline or an estimated duration in which the case is finalized?

abthree


02/26/24  I applied for te naturalization process in the february last year and it took a long time for the PF visit but finally they visited and forwarded my  case to the MJSP. My case was forwarded to MJSP in the beginning of december last year but so far although more than 3 months already passed there is no update on my case. there is no issue in the documentation or anyother kind of issues in my case. I  want to know how long it takes at the MJSP phase to finalize? is there any deadline or an estimated duration in which the case is finalized?         -@hbkhan003


The timing sounds about right so far, if the home visit was completed in December.  If you're not doing it already, start checking the Diário Oficial da União every day for your name as it appeared on your naturalization petition and your CRNM number.  That was how I received the first notice that my naturalization had been approved:


https://www.gov.br/imprensanacional/pt-br

Pablo888


I applied for te naturalization process in the february last year and it took a long time for the PF visit but finally they visited and forwarded my  case to the MJSP.
    -@hbkhan003


The PF does house visits as part of the process?  How do you schedule this PF visit? Can they drop in unannounced or more importantly while you are out of the country as part of your ordinary schedule?


Just curious about that part of the process.... I am just used to the opposite - i.e. me visiting the authorities not the reverse.


Thank you.

abthree


02/26/24 The PF does house visits as part of the process?  How do you schedule this PF visit? Can they drop in unannounced or more importantly while you are out of the country as part of your ordinary schedule?Just curious about that part of the process.... I am just used to the opposite - i.e. me visiting the authorities not the reverse.Thank you.        -@Pablo888


The PF only makes home visits in naturalization cases, no longer in residence cases. 


For naturalization cases, they make a point of arriving unannounced;  part of the reason for the visit is to confirm residence .  If they miss the applicant, they'll generally return on another day,  also unannounced.   


When I was naturalized, we had just gone shopping when they arrived.  Fortunately, Brazil being Brazil, the officer was an old school friend of our porteiro, who vouched for me, so he left a message to say that I  was ok.

hbkhan003

@abthree

the home visit was done in july 2023. after the visit and biometrics, they forwarded my file to MJSP in december last year. 

abthree


   02/26/24 @abthreethe home visit was done in july 2023. after the visit and biometrics, they forwarded my file to MJSP in december last year.          -@hbkhan003


Strange that it took that long to forward the file to the Ministry of Justice but regardless,  the clock started in December as far as the Ministry is concerned.  I'd check the DOU back to July once or twice just in case something happened during that period, and then every day or two for the current week.

Brazilinmyheart

Hello everyone, 2 small questions here:

1- if PF was approved, this means they will not visit anymore?

2- after MJSP approval, there is a formal interview?

abthree


06/05/24    Hello everyone, 2 small questions here:
1- if PF was approved, this means they will not visit anymore?
2- after MJSP approval, there is a formal interview?
   

    -@Brazilinmyheart


Welcome!


1 . If the PF visit goes well and they forward the file to Brasília for final review, they normally will not visit again.


2 . There is no formal interview after the Ministry of Justice approves the naturalization petition.  In fact, unless the proces has changed, there's not even any notification, aside from the indication in the Ministry system.  At that point it's up to the applicant to print out the Portaria that documents the approval from the Diário Oficial da União (https://www.in.gov.br/leiturajornal) and bring it to the Justiça Eleitoral to obtain the Título de Eleitor, to the Prefeitura to obtain their RG, and to the PF to obtain a passport.  A Certidão Positiva de Naturalização can be obtained here:  https://www.gov.br/pt-br/servicos/obter … uralizacao

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