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Last activity 15 September 2023 by Basit Butt

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Abed87

Hello

I am belgium nationality holder I applied  for my mother private family visit visa from pakistan  and unfortunately  its rejected  and they gave us 2 reasons of rejection  here it is

1 you have not provided proof of sufficient means of subsistence, for the duration of the intended stay or for the return to the country of origin or residence

2 there are reasonable doubts as to your intention to leave  terrortiry of member state  before expiry of visa

Please  if anyone can help me with this because  I want to re apply  for mother so I don't repeat same mistake and submit all necessary  documents  thank you

Jens79

Hi,


These are “classic” reasons to refuse a visa application. You need to demonstrate two separate things to overcome the two reasons.


a) Show proof of sufficient funds to demonstrate that your mothers entire stay will be covered - even if she is paying everything herself. If she will stay with you, point that out, or it would be expected that she will have to afford a stay in a hotel. Also show enough funds to cover other expenses she will have for her entire stay + a healthy margin.


b) You/she needs to show that you mom is intending to return to her home country and not stay illegally with you. She needs to show that she has a good reason to go back, in other words something that makes her want to go back. The fact that she has a son in Belgium is not helping her to demonstrate this, unfortunately. Strong ties to her home country includes a job, owning or renting a residence and other important family members that she wants/need to go back to. Send proof of these connections.


Best of luck!

hibbasaleem18

@Abed87 when did you apply by the way?

Can you share your timeline please

When you applied when it got registered on ibz and when you got the dece

Abed87

@Jens79 thanks for your reply

I applied for 90 days stay but when I calculated  bank statement  money is only for 30 days  but I write a letter in letter I mentioned  that I am going to cover all expenses  of my mother during stay but I didn't registered that letter from commune

And for 2nd I attached  power of attorney  document with file that she own a property in pakistan she widow and retired  so  she don't have a have anh salary slips only thing I added was bank statement .but I  missed pension slips  didn't added you think that's reasons for 2nd

Abed87

@hibbasaleem18 I applied date of 13th July but my mother got refusal letter last week

Jens79

@Jens79 thanks for your reply
I applied for 90 days stay but when I calculated bank statement money is only for 30 days but I write a letter in letter I mentioned that I am going to cover all expenses of my mother during stay but I didn't registered that letter from commune
And for 2nd I attached power of attorney document with file that she own a property in pakistan she widow and retired so she don't have a have anh salary slips only thing I added was bank statement .but I missed pension slips didn't added you think that's reasons for 2nd
-@Abed87


If I understand you correctly, you applied for a stay of 90 days (the maximum possible), but only submitted proof of funds for 30 days (possibly the actual length of her stay). If so, that’s definitely a problem.


In general, the longer she intends to stay here and the stronger her ties to Belgium is, the harder it will be for her to successfully prove that she intends to only visit and not stay illegally. Especially if she is planning to stay for an extended period of time, like the full 90 day period, which would indicate that she doesn’t have very strong ties to her home country, like a job that she needs to come back to.


I would recommend that you limit the length of her stay, at least to something shorter than the full 90 days. And if you are planning that she will stay for 30 days, then apply for 30 days, not 90. She may still be granted 90 days (most probably), but you shouldn’t apply for a 90 day stay if she is planning to stay for example only 30 days. And make sure that you can show evidence of available funds that will cover her whole stay + some more.


If she does not have a job (retired) or have other close family in Pakistan, then it will unfortunately be harder for her to demonstrate the intention to go back to Pakistan after her stay, especially when she has a strong connection to Belgium (you). Think of everything that she could possibly show that would demonstrate a normal settled life in Pakistan. Usually a job, a business, a house/apartment, family - all those things that would make it likely for somebody to go back to your home country.


From the authorities point of view they will take all these aspects into consideration and basically make a calculation of the risk that a person would over-stay the permitted length of stay. Weak ties to her home country, strong ties to Belgium (you), a planned long stay, without enough (demonstrated) funds to pay for her stay = high risk of overstay = denied visa. She needs stronger ties to Pakistan, weaker ties to Belgium (maybe hard to do anything about), a shorter planned stay and/or more funds to cover her expenses in order to maximize her chances of getting her visa application approved.

Abed87

@Jens79 first bro thanks a lot for all info you gave me i will keep that in mind about funds will make sure to provide all documents needed but only problem is she widow and retired it will be always problem because i cant provide salary slips but next time i will attach pension slips with that again thanks for information

hssn601

Short stay visa for my mother also got rejected and in the extra info i am unable to get the reason.


extra info2:

La décision est en principe envoyée le jour où elle est prise. Un délai de quelques jours peut cependant s'écouler avant sa réception effective par le poste diplomatique ou consulaire.


The decision is a matter of principle that you will enjoy your life. Before the end of the day, the reception was effective during the diplomatic post and consular.

Aneesh

You will get a letter with details of rejection reason, wait for it.

LauB72

We have received a refusal of a Visa C as well. We have 30 days to appeal - has this ever worked for anyone to have the decision reversed ?

hibbasaleem18

@LauB72

Why was your Visa rejected??

How long did they take to give the decision??

hssn601

My mom's visa got rejected for the reason:

you have not provided proof of sufficient means of subsistence, for the duration of the intended stay or for the return to the country of origin or residence


Total stay was 29 days, and in her account she had  3060 euros which is 105euros / day, additionally i had written that i will bear all the expenses.

Basit Butt

@hssn601 It's better to hire immigration law???

Basit Butt

@Basit Butt sorry lawyer

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