Another Citizenship Verification Post

@SurrealMagyar

My understanding is that,  the kids could get citizenship if the parents were borne in Hungary .

At least one of the parent…

I'm assuming they mean that your parents need to come sign a hungarian acknowledgement of paternity at the embassy, when i went to verify my hungarian citizenship my parents had to come sign one even though they were both on my birth certificate because i was born out of wedlock.

Why doesn't the OP's mother apply for citizenship directly as her parents are/were Hungarians? 

Then the OP can just apply for her own citizenship directly thereafter on the same basis that the mother is Hungarian.   

As an aside, when our eldest was born, we were married and as Mrs Fluffy is Hungarian, no problem. However we wanted to cross the border to Austria soon after the birth.  I went to the civil registry office with Mrs F's cousin and I had to acknowledge paternity there too, even though they knew I was the Dad as we had papers from the hospital.   A birth certificate was issued with both our names as parents on it.

And throughout our kids lives, we've repeatedly had to sign papers  acknowledging paternity or stating parental responsibility (it's a different thing but meh, it's what they wanted).

@fluffy2560 Whether the mother applies first wont really affect anything, OP would have to go through the same process regardless of whether the mom does it first or not, so waiting for the mom to do it first would just cause more waiting time. The only thing OP has to do is the acknowledgement of paternity and then OP should be good. As long as they actually qualify for verifciation of citizenship, which seems likely based on the info

    @fluffy2560 Whether the mother applies first wont really affect anything, OP would have to go through the same process regardless of whether the mom does it first or not, so waiting for the mom to do it first would just cause more waiting time. The only thing OP has to do is the acknowledgement of paternity and then OP should be good. As long as they actually qualify for verification of citizenship, which seems likely based on the info        -@LukeBo

I'd have thought it was done and dusted with the mother's passport, irrelevant to paternity, especially if over age of majority, i.e. HU parent is a slam dunk, immediate passport issuance.

But just for interest, what happens if Dad's expired, divorced or uncooperative or simply gone walkabout?  There must be a mechanism for that.

Anyhow, slow plodding and obscure requirements is de rigeur in HU bureaucracy.

@fluffy2560 Most likely they'd just have OP write a statement as to why the dad cannot sign the acknowledgement of paternity, as its the mothers side who is hungarian it shouldt truly matter, but they love documentation, so unless not possible both parents must sign it, if it was the fathers side who were hungarian and he couldnt sign it'd cause trouble though.

    @fluffy2560 Most likely they'd just have OP write a statement as to why the dad cannot sign the acknowledgement of paternity, as its the mothers side who is hungarian it shouldt truly matter, but they love documentation, so unless not possible both parents must sign it, if it was the fathers side who were hungarian and he couldnt sign it'd cause trouble though.
   

    -@LukeBo

Yes, seems illogical as the OP is surely now an adult. 

As you say, who cares who Dad is in this case?  Absolutely irrelevant to the matter at hand.  Might be worth exploring to expedite a solution.   Everyone who matters is known - e.g. Mum and Mum's parents. Should be job done.

Ultimate case would being left abandoned on the steps of a hospital with both parents unknown. 

@fluffy2560 well the hungarian government is big on documentation, and certain life events need to be registrered in order to process stuff like verification of citizenship, however to my understanding if it is a document that is not necessarily needed to prove the citizenship passing down to a person they will make certain exceptions if you make a written statement explaining why such a document can not be provided.

    @fluffy2560 well the hungarian government is big on documentation, and certain life events need to be registrered in order to process stuff like verification of citizenship, however to my understanding if it is a document that is not necessarily needed to prove the citizenship passing down to a person they will make certain exceptions if you make a written statement explaining why such a document can not be provided.
   

    -@LukeBo

Seems like that's the easy way forward - just make a declaration Daddio is unavailable.   

Job done, the bureaucratic monster sated.

Yea, my embassy said via email the same thing. Write a hand-written letter in Hungarian explaining why the acknowledgement of paternity isn't possible and hope for the best. I have the opinion that the current government wants people like me to "return home" so it'd be silly not to verify and permit me.

I will add that, even though my Mother was born in Australia, she has a Hungarian birth certificate that my Grandmother got sorted for her when she was a child here in Budapest during a holiday. I have new copies of all my families Hungarian marriage and birth certificates now. Except my mother's which I am having verified and is taking a while. After this I'll head into (not sure which) office in Pest and submit my application. I'll bring a cousin with me to translate if needed.

I am curious though, assuming that they accept my application, is there a way I can stay here without a job or studies? I've read you can purchase a "certificate of citizenship", but I interpreted all texts as you buy this AT SUBMISSION not acceptance. Which in retrospect seems quite silly on my part.

    Yea, my embassy said via email the same thing. Write a hand-written letter in Hungarian explaining why the acknowledgement of paternity isn't possible and hope for the best. I have the opinion that the current government wants people like me to "return home" so it'd be silly not to verify and permit me.
I will add that, even though my Mother was born in Australia, she has a Hungarian birth certificate that my Grandmother got sorted for her when she was a child here in Budapest during a holiday. I have new copies of all my families Hungarian marriage and birth certificates now. Except my mother's which I am having verified and is taking a while. After this I'll head into (not sure which) office in Pest and submit my application. I'll bring a cousin with me to translate if needed.

I am curious though, assuming that they accept my application, is there a way I can stay here without a job or studies? I've read you can purchase a "certificate of citizenship", but I interpreted all texts as you buy this AT SUBMISSION not acceptance. Which in retrospect seems quite silly on my part.
   

    -@SurrealMagyar

Don't know the answer to the question about the certificate but it looks like you're set with the declaration about Dad.   You can just stay here as you're a Hungarian.  If you wanted to go out and come back in, you'd be in difficulties if your Australian passport shows you as being here over 90 days.  If you're not planning to go anywhere outside the country, you'll be fine. Your case sounds very straight forward. Once you have your HU passport, then you can go anywhere Schengen for just about any length of time you like and be treated as a local.

Question:  Why didn't you or your parents get a Hungarian passport when you were very much younger and maintain it? 

The reason I ask is that I've always been very insistent my kids maintain their passports and use them - UK and Hungarian - although I am currently going through hoops to renew our youngest's UK passport. The kids themselves don't care at all but they are kids so understandable they don't completely get it.  But I wondered why people didn't keep on top of these things or ignored it for long periods. It's a genuine question. Not trying to be judgemental.

@SurrealMagyar I assume they'll ask for the acknowledgement of paternity in Hungary too, and if they don't the actual office that deals with the cases request it later. Embassies are usually more knowledgable on verification cases as they are more commonly submitted there than in hungary. As for your question about staying in Hungary, do you mean after the citizenship is proven? No Hungarian citizen can be kicked out of the country. The citizenship certificate is not necessarily important, you can have to choose if you want a citizenship certificate when you submit your application, it is not needed its just an extra document that proves the citizenship, but it expires within 3 years i believe.

Basically, I am trying to do everything "by the book". I came here on a scholarship. My entry was visa-free (thanks Australia). My current stay is over 90 days but I have a residence permit as a student (which expires at the end of the current semester). I am looking for a job and making sure my residence permit is always valid. The way I look at it, my citizenship is yet to be verified, combined with my entry and permit being "third-national" because Australia isn't part of the EU, I can't exactly prove to authorities I have the right to stay yet as a Hungarian. This is why I am hoping I can receive some sort of temporary proof when I submit my case so I can continue to stay. I think at that point residence permits become useless since citizens don't need em'.

I completely agree that one should make sure their children carry on citizenships. Without getting too personal, my Mother isn't someone who is proactive with these types of things. Now that I am getting this sorted, she actually wants me to look into things for her too so she can also have her citizenship. When this is all done and dusted I'll have my sister go through the same process (albeit easy this time around). The thing is, my grandmother left during the communist days and did not have pleasant experiences to tell. To her, I think the idea of having her grandchild "go back" is somewhat horrifying. My grandfather passed away while I was younger but he was very big on pushing the Hungarian identity onto me. I am fairly sure if he was still alive he'd have gotten this sorted for me already.

@SurrealMagyar Verification usually takes 6-12 months but it can take longer too, I don't belive there is any specific residence permit for people applying for verification, so you'd probably have to leave unless you stay on a different residence permit while waiting, smartest would probably be to ask a lawyer what your options are

.... I think at that point residence permits become useless since citizens don't need em'.

Yeah, tell me about it.  EU citizens don't need them either.   Unlike my moronic fellow country people who voted for Brexit.

I completely agree that one should make sure their children carry on citizenships. Without getting too personal, my Mother isn't someone who is proactive with these types of things. Now that I am getting this sorted, she actually wants me to look into things for her too so she can also have her citizenship. When this is all done and dusted I'll have my sister go through the same process (albeit easy this time around). The thing is, my grandmother left during the communist days and did not have pleasant experiences to tell. To her, I think the idea of having her grandchild "go back" is somewhat horrifying. My grandfather passed away while I was younger but he was very big on pushing the Hungarian identity onto me. I am fairly sure if he was still alive he'd have gotten this sorted for me already.

    -@SurrealMagyar

Yes, I've heard that before.  People had a sense of escaping and leaving things behind and taking up a new life.   I suppose it depends when people left - either they escaped and couldn't come back or after 1989, just left without the idea of it being forever. 

Probably the post-1989 leavers have a different thinking.   More about opportunity being limited here but huge elsewhere.  Some of Mrs Fluffy's cousins left - one to Germany, one to Switzerland and another to the USA.  All of them very educated so a loss here. 

Mrs Fluffy's grandfather was roughed up by the local KGB here in Hungary during the 1970s and 1980s.  He wasn't anything like an agitator but a veterinarian.  Apparently some party big wigs were having a shindig and were having steaks etc.  Mrs F's grandfather had to "certify" the beef was fit for human consumption and the cows were healthy.  It wasn't something he usually did but they turned up unannounced and took him away for a couple of days.  When he came back apparently he was extremely upset, perhaps even had PTSD.   And he also lived through WW2 escaping the fighting in Hungary.  They went to Germany as they were ethnic Germans but they did come back.  It sounds like the KGB was far worse. That's how the story is told. 

If you can find a job before your time expires, I think you have a good chance they will allow you allot more time to sort out your citizenship issues.

I know a guy from OZ who is from central America, no HU roots at all but was in a gay relationship and was able to stay and work in HU through being a family/partner of a Hungarian.

He is no longer in that relationship but still working a living in HU.

Of course his former partner was in Parliament and had connections.

ATM our gay neighbors are living in Hungary for over 2 years now and working.

One is from Brazil and they other from Romania.

Perhaps being in some sort of relationship and proving you live with someone of HU citizenship will help?

They will want to know your income etc.

IDK though, I was at the time married for over 40 years to a HU citizen and the mother of a HU citizen and had immigration issues.

It depends on who is handling your case, someone dropped the ball in my case and demanded all sorts of odd documents.

It was sort of strange at immigration when they looked online and told me, oh yes, your son is a citizen and married to a Hungarian but they still sent out a deportation letter to me. They want all the paperwork you have. It worked out for me, I had to pay at immigration for more time. Perhaps you can do that too if needed. My papers arrived and then everything went smoothly.

Could be they want ,certain  people here and not others? IDK.

We used a HU embassy to handle our sons citizenship claim.

IDK your local city hall may be able to help you with citizenship paperwork.

We received all the forms for me to apply for it but decided to not go through with it. I too have some HU roots. They clerk in our city hall gathered all the forms for me and explained how it goes.

I was told it takes a good full year to approve the application and only the president of Hungary signs off on them.

On the form they have a space where you can explain your claim and tell a bit about your story.

Good luck.

I was thinking a bit more on your issue.

I do think you would get better help and be taken more seriously at your local city hall rather then in immigration.

In fact my HU husband was told at immigration they they have nothing to do with citizenship or helping any HU citizen.

He asked about his address card when we first moved to HU and was told since he was a citizen he had to get all his paperwork at his city hall..

Immigration is only for immigrants.

I also wonder why they are making a big deal out of your father signing papers when you are not applying through his being a Hungarian, only through your mothers side.

No one can say for sure who their father is anyways.. Only their mother.

Try not to worry about your permit expiring after the school year. You can buy and extension if needed.

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We received all the forms for me to apply for it but decided to not go through with it. I too have some HU roots. They clerk in our city hall gathered all the forms for me and explained how it goes.
I was told it takes a good full year to approve the application and only the president of Hungary signs off on them.
On the form they have a space where you can explain your claim and tell a bit about your story.
Good luck.
   

    -@Marilyn Tassy

I've got no Hungarian roots at all. I do have a German ancestor but it's really far back and irrelevant.

I was thinking of getting Mrs Fluffy to apply to the President for me.  I wouldn't really have bothered about it but Brexit made it  along shot option.  It's always been a problem that I'm rubbish at Hungarian.  But I could spend perhaps some time on it, maybe going to a summer school or something like that.  Maybe I could just scrape by on the language requirements.   Or perhaps they would take pity on me.   I don't have deep enough pockets to find someone who could grease the wheels and I've got some ethics.

All my family come from a single region ~2000 people. I wanted to apply for the verification there but they have no idea what they are doing and told me I need to pass a Hungarian language test and naturalise like everone else.

So, I'll do everything here in Pest. Where would this "town hall" be?

    All my family come from a single region ~2000 people. I wanted to apply for the verification there but they have no idea what they are doing and told me I need to pass a Hungarian language test and naturalise like everone else.
So, I'll do everything here in Pest. Where would this "town hall" be?
   

    -@SurrealMagyar

I don't see why you'd need to pass a language test.   

Babies don't have to pass a language test when they are born and they are Hungarian, just like you.

Town Hall could be the one near the Kempinksi Hotel, where the ferris wheel is.  I was there a couple of times many years ago to do paperwork.   Not been back since.  Might be a Kormanyablak now.

You are suppose to go to the town hall in the district your address card is issued.

They way it goes is you have to first collect the forms and fill them out and return them to your city hall.

Then I suppose wait it out until they are either excepted or rejected by the president, perhaps his staff really does it all?

I am not sure if it costs anything or not once you submit the forms.

If you qualify through having family in Hungary and have HU roots as far as I know, you do not need the language test. IDK for sure however, our son was still a minor when he got his citizenship.

They will ask on the forms if you speak Hungarian or not.

My grandmother and father were born in former Hungarian lands, it was still part of Hungary when my grandmother was born.

It is odd, they both were born in the same house in the same village but in 2 different countries. Her Hungary and he in Poland.

I no longer have any interest in trying for HU citizenship.

Probably not staying here until my dying day and that day is soon approaching at my age!

Yes, my father thought the same thing about teaching us how to speak Rusyn, he said why bother, it is commie and no one is going back there.

He died before 1989 and never knew of the changes.

    You are suppose to go to the town hall in the district your address card is issued.
They way it goes is you have to first collect the forms and fill them out and return them to your city hall.
Then I suppose wait it out until they are either excepted or rejected by the president, perhaps his staff really does it all?
I am not sure if it costs anything or not once you submit the forms.
If you qualify through having family in Hungary and have HU roots as far as I know, you do not need the language test. IDK for sure however, our son was still a minor when he got his citizenship.
They will ask on the forms if you speak Hungarian or not.
My grandmother and father were born in former Hungarian lands, it was still part of Hungary when my grandmother was born.
It is odd, they both were born in the same house in the same village but in 2 different countries. Her Hungary and he in Poland.
I no longer have any interest in trying for HU citizenship.
Probably not staying here until my dying day and that day is soon approaching at my age!
Yes, my father thought the same thing about teaching us how to speak Rusyn, he said why bother, it is commie and no one is going back there.
He died before 1989 and never knew of the changes.
   

    -@Marilyn Tassy

Ah yes, that's right.  Mrs F used to to the Kormanyablak in her "home" village a few km away.  I was at the one in Budapest near the ferris wheel many years ago. I have no idea now why I was there.  It wasn't a Kormanyablak back then. I think it might of been immigration.   More recently I was at the immigration office not far from Rákóczi Bridge.  Next time I'm due there is in 2027  when my residence permit runs out.  I'm not planning that far ahead. Maybe I won't have to go as the UK will be back in the EU by then

I asked Mrs F to investigate the Presidential route but we saw the conditions for it to be granted and it looked very unlikely.   By the time we reach 2027, I should be officially retired and maybe that'll make it easier. 

I can imagine your Dad not thinking of any changes that might occur. But I suppose it depends on tradition and how much affection one has for the home land.   One of our kids has some pride in her British nationality and obviously her near perfect command of English.  At school it might seem exotic and the others wanted help with their homework. Has to be an upside!   The other one hardly bothers to speak English at all and seems disinterested - but it could be teenager stuff.  We speak English at home mainly so it's a bit weird one of them makes little effort.   

My 10 year permit expires in 2026.

I wonder what comes  after that?

I think they might of thought no one would make it for the years I have been here. First it was the 5 year permit , now the 10 year permit.

15 years goes by fast.

My father had a ton of sentimental feelings about his home country but never planned on returning even for a visit.

It would of blown his mind to know I was there and met some family still living there.

Funny at our family reunion dinner a 93 years old local relation was there.

We asked her about the  Paw@@@ members of the tree.

She was funny and had a clear mind , she said I thought all the Paw@@@s had left in 1939.

No, the Nazis forced them into the cities.

@LukeBo By the way, when you say "you can have to choose if you want a citizenship certificate when you submit your application", does this mean I will get it at submission? So, next week if I go in with my documents and submit my application, I ask for a certificate and buy one right then and there? Or, do I have to wait the 6-12 months for it to be verified before I get it? I am just looking for a way to stay if I can't manage to find work.

    My 10 year permit expires in 2026.
I wonder what comes  after that?
I think they might of thought no one would make it for the years I have been here. First it was the 5 year permit , now the 10 year permit.
15 years goes by fast.
My father had a ton of sentimental feelings about his home country but never planned on returning even for a visit.
It would of blown his mind to know I was there and met some family still living there.
Funny at our family reunion dinner a 93 years old local relation was there.
We asked her about the  Paw@@@ members of the tree.
She was funny and had a clear mind , she said I thought all the Paw@@@s had left in 1939.
No, the Nazis forced them into the cities.
   

    -@Marilyn Tassy

In my case, before Brexit I  had freedom of movement in the EU. Obviously didn't have the kind of residence permit (RP) I have now. It's just really weird as I was here for years before but my residence permit seems to only recognise I was here from the date of issuance of this "new" Brexit based RP.  It's like I never existed here even though I have my "little brown book" from before 2014 (before Hungary joined the EU).

Anyway, in 2027, the current RP will expire and I will get a 10 year permit which allows me to have (I think) the permanent EU version too. And that gets me freedom of movement back again.  It's a world, I've been forced to inhabit and didn't see coming. I didn't anticipate the UK leaving the EU.  Who would have guessed? 

As my parents and all their siblings are gone now, I was thinking we could ask the HU President on the grounds I'm sort of the "last one left".  A lot of countries allows that.

Those Nazis have a lot to apologise for what they did.   The next ones to explain themselves will be the  Russians.  I doubt we'll see any of them in a war crimes tribunal unfortunately.

     
Anyway, in 2027, the current RP will expire and I will get a 10 year permit which allows me to have (I think) the permanent EU version too. And that gets me freedom of movement back again.  It's a world, I've been forced to inhabit and didn't see coming. I didn't anticipate the UK leaving the EU.  Who would have guessed? 



    -@fluffy2560

You won't get freedom of movement again sadly.

I have the paperwork stashed somewhere that came in the mail with my 10 year perm resident permit.

If I remember right, it states I can only be out of Hungary for up to one full year without informing them I am gone.

Sort of feels like I am on parole!

In the mean time in the USA people are just walking in and getting gov. aid benefits...

There as to be a agenda to bring down some countries and let others rise.

Who really benefits from illegal immigration? Follow the money?

@SurrealMagyar You don't get it before the application is successful, its a document verifying the fact that the person is a citizen.

@Marilyn Tassy Well it is the same in the USA, if you have a green card and stay out of the country for too long the US government views it as you surrendering your residency, just like in Hungary.

    @SurrealMagyar You don't get it before the application is successful, its a document verifying the fact that the person is a citizen.
   

    -@LukeBo

Yes, please do not remind me of the THOUSANDS of $$ my sons  Hungarian wife cost him.

She was allot more on the ball then any of us were. She and her mom had it all figured out to the letter.

Find a SUCKER and get into the USA.

Long story, long run was she was more suited to be in the porno industry then be a wife.

    @Marilyn Tassy Well it is the same in the USA, if you have a green card and stay out of the country for too long the US government views it as you surrendering your residency, just like in Hungary.
   

    -@LukeBo

I know, my sons second wife from Japan was not exactly treated as kindly with US immigration as his first Hungarian wife was.

He paid and paid for her US citizenship but they dragged it on so long that they gave up and moved to Japan.

           Anyway, in 2027, the current RP will expire and I will get a 10 year permit which allows me to have (I think) the permanent EU version too. And that gets me freedom of movement back again.  It's a world, I've been forced to inhabit and didn't see coming. I didn't anticipate the UK leaving the EU.  Who would have guessed?      -@fluffy2560

You won't get freedom of movement again sadly.
   

    -@SimCityAT

I thought if we got the EU Blue Card we could move around.  I'm a bit unclear. 

There's the local 10 year one and there's the EU Blue card.

I thought the Blue Card gave us freedom of movement to some degree.

Long story, long run was she was more suited to be in the porno industry then be a wife.        -@Marilyn Tassy

She could have got a job working with Donny like Melania.   Slovenia is not that far away from Hungary. Just the cost of humiliation and producing an anchor baby.

Could have suited him completely.   A deal's a deal (except when it's not) - less of the Trump tower more like the house of cards.

God forbid Donny tries to get a British passport through his mother.

               Anyway, in 2027, the current RP will expire and I will get a 10 year permit which allows me to have (I think) the permanent EU version too. And that gets me freedom of movement back again.  It's a world, I've been forced to inhabit and didn't see coming. I didn't anticipate the UK leaving the EU.  Who would have guessed?      -@fluffy2560You won't get freedom of movement again sadly.         -@SimCityAT

I thought if we got the EU Blue Card we could move around.  I'm a bit unclear. 

There's the local 10 year one and there's the EU Blue card.

I thought the Blue Card gave us freedom of movement to some degree.
   

    -@fluffy2560

https://www.apply.eu/BlueCard/Hungary

https://www.apply.eu/BlueCard/Hungary-@SimCityAT

Well, that's pants then.

The US legal theory is that the Green Card is only for foreigners who intend to immigrate to the US; if you get the Green Card but later spend too much time outside the US you're assumed to have abandoned that intent and forfeited the card.

Presumably Hungary has a similar rule.

    The US legal theory is that the Green Card is only for foreigners who intend to immigrate to the US; if you get the Green Card but later spend too much time outside the US you're assumed to have abandoned that intent and forfeited the card.
Presumably Hungary has a similar rule.
   

    -@zif

I would have to check but those with an Article 50 Card, people with a 5 year card can leave for 6 months. 10 year card can leave for 5 years. Without losing their residency.

Thats how it is in Austria.

        The US legal theory is that the Green Card is only for foreigners who intend to immigrate to the US; if you get the Green Card but later spend too much time outside the US you're assumed to have abandoned that intent and forfeited the card.Presumably Hungary has a similar rule.        -@zifI would have to check but those with an Article 50 Card, people with a 5 year card can leave for 6 months. 10 year card can leave for 5 years. Without losing their residency. Thats how it is in Austria.         -@SimCityAT

Sounds about the same as here for Article 50 (Brexit) cards.   Unsurprising as it's EU wide.

Currently I'll supposedly get a permanent (indefinite) card in 2027 when the Article 50 card expires.  I'll still have to renew it but it'll be 10 years automatically granted I believe.

I've got numerous complaints about the entire stupid Brexit thing of course.  I'm genuinely aggrieved by it. Not going to rehash it.

The goalposts might have moved for President granted naturalisation.  Looks like you have to be over 65 to avoid the constitutional exam or be mentally incapable of taking the exam.  I'm sure it was over 60 previously.  But I can wait it out - about 15 months for me to be over 65,   

   
        The US legal theory is that the Green Card is only for foreigners who intend to immigrate to the US; if you get the Green Card but later spend too much time outside the US you're assumed to have abandoned that intent and forfeited the card.Presumably Hungary has a similar rule.        -@zifI would have to check but those with an Article 50 Card, people with a 5 year card can leave for 6 months. 10 year card can leave for 5 years. Without losing their residency. Thats how it is in Austria.         -@SimCityAT

Sounds about the same as here for Article 50 (Brexit) cards.   Unsurprising as it's EU wide.

Currently I'll supposedly get a permanent (indefinite) card in 2027 when the Article 50 card expires.  I'll still have to renew it but it'll be 10 years automatically granted I believe.

I've got numerous complaints about the entire stupid Brexit thing of course.  I'm genuinely aggrieved by it. Not going to rehash it.

The goalposts might have moved for President granted naturalisation.  Looks like you have to be over 65 to avoid the constitutional exam or be mentally incapable of taking the exam.  I'm sure it was over 60 previously.  But I can wait it out - about 15 months for me to be over 65,   
   

    -@fluffy2560

Well, I guess I would be good to go since I am over 65.

When I got my last card, the 10 year permit, I told the guy I probably would not be alive to get another card.

So far I may have to eat my words.

The application for HU citizenship is written in Hungarian.

My husband was filling it out for me up to the point when they asked why you want it and to tell them about yourself.

For some reason is just gave up on filling it out.

He keeps saying he is done with Hungary.

Been saying that for years now.

I can only see having EU citizenship as a perk if I wanted to work or travel around.

IDK, not planning on doing either .

I think they know that most people reaching their later years are not planning on working or doing allot of free travel around.

That is why we have always supported out son when he wanted to see the world. Once you reach a certain point in life, you no longer are all that interested in such things.

Always dislike living out of a suitcase and sleeping in a strange bed.

The only question I have though is why my doctor asked if I was a HU citizen before he treated me. Makes one really wonder, like it would make a difference?