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Living here as a resident versus being a tourist

Last activity 08 December 2024 by ALESISO

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kolyaS122HSU

I have been coming here as a tourist since 2000. I obtained permanent residency (RNE) thru marriage back in June 2017, and have physically moved here since September 1st of this year. I'm sitting on my balcony having my second coffee of the morning, it's already 27 degrees 😁 and I am listening to the birds talk to each other, as the city starts to wake up.


Over the last 24 years I have flown here 65 times, and stayed for 2 weeks to 2 months during each trip. Now that I don't have a return ticket in my app, I wanted to reflect on how things are different. So, in a rambling nonsensical order, here are the observations I have made on the differences of being a resident versus a tourist.


-I don't even care what time it is or what day it is and find myself having to check my phone to find out. I have no schedule, nor do I want one. Brasilians are on what I call "island time mon" and I wouldn't want it any other way to be honest. Sure, there are appointments occasionally to be kept, but, the majority of my week is totally unstructured. I am relaxed like I have never been before. On the first couple of years of vacations there was always things to do, lists to be crossed off, etc, now that is gone forever, and I love it.


-Now that I am fixed in my location, I've slowly formed a community of people around me that, as a tourist, you don't require nor care about. This enhances the experience of being here, and being a part of something. Walking down the street in Copa or Petropolis and meeting your barber, lawyer, the sindico from your condo, etc, and deciding to stop for a cafezinho at a table on the sidewalk and chat about the weeks events totally spontaneously for example.


-The social fabric of your location is rich and complex beyond your wildest dreams once you get to know people and you speak the language. I've gone to more places and done more things merely by being on the ground in the right place at the right time to learn about an event, for example. Things that a tourist would totally be oblivious to, or outright afraid to attend for any number of reasons. Just striking up a conversation with someone at the next table in a cafe can last for an hour and  be revealing.


-The cost of living as a resident is dirt cheap compared to North America, Europe, or some places in Asia IMHO. I've been to 50 countries, so, my wallet is talking. Thing is, as a "morador" you slowly realise that you don't need a lot to exist here at a very comfortable level, realistically speaking. Tourists need to go and spend money to feel happy. So, no matter your personal financial situation, your individual satisfaction as a resident is quite high with very few physical or personal needs IMHO. If I am bored I just go for a walk of 10-15,000 steps on the beach, spend R$7 on an ice cold coconut and be thoroughly entertained for 2-3 hours as well as stay healthy.


-I don't care what I look like. I dress down like an ordinary Brasilian walking to the beach or to the favela. Tourists wear costume jewellery, watches, nice clothes, shoes, etc, in most cases. I wear a t-shirt, surf shorts, and flip flops 75% of the time and usually don't shave until the growth of my stubble is annoying me when I sleep. I don't care what anyone thinks of me, because we all sort of look the same. People here are less concerned with what you are, rather than who you are. As a resident speaking the language and looking like a local you disappear from the radar screen. Street hawkers and vendors ignore me.


I'll add more as I think of them.

Peter Itamaraca

By comparison an ice cold coconut sets me back about half that price, so there are even less expensive places to live in Brazil than Rio...

mberigan

@kolyaS122HSU has "gone native" and, frankly, it's the only and best way to truly appreciate Brazil.


MattB in PB

Pablo888

@kolyaS122HSU, thank you for the words of encouragement for people who are just embarking on the journey....


Could someone also describe how the experience could be like if a younger person - say a millennial or gen-z - were to move to Brazil?


Brazil has so much potential that if you have a generation of well educated young expats turning residents, the country would get so much benefit.  Or that's my thought right now - but I could be wrong.

kolyaS122HSU

@Peter Itamaraca

I remember R$3 coconuts on the beach in Copa........back in 2005 KKKKKKKKK


Just for context on my comments, I'm not retired, I just don't have commitments like a job to deal with. I'd imagine as things progress I could find myself without as much time, we'll see.

alan279

@Pablo888

Does Brazil have a visa program for needed highly educated/experienced people?

Pablo888

@Pablo888
Does Brazil have a visa program for needed highly educated/experienced people? - @alan279

@alan279, I am not sure about the visa program but I suspect that there may be opportunities for those. 


Assuming that the visa is not an issue, how would those highly educated / experienced individuals even know how to network and get started?


In the US, innovators can go to SF or NYC to meet like minded people and have a great chance at starting something big - in any field.


What do young Brazilians do right after college in order to make it big in Brazil?  I know that talented young Brazilians tend to go abroad as it's more lucrative to do so.   


I actually hired 2 new Brazilian graduates on H1B visas for work in the US.  That actually contributed to the Brazilian Brain Drain.... I would like to reverse that trend...

abthree

12/07/24 @Pablo888
Does Brazil have a visa program for needed highly educated/experienced people? - @alan279


Citizens of Mercosul countries and Portugal can immigrate to Brazil and be eligible to work.  For all others, there's only the VITEM V work visa, which requires a Brazilian employer as a sponsor.  There is no visa program for people who just want to come to Brazil to look for work, and if someone comes on a tourist visa and finds a Brazilian sponsor, they will almost certainly need to return to their country of origin to apply for the VITEM V after their sponsor has had their invitation cleared by the Labor Ministry.

ALESISO

Hi, I am not probably the best example of someone to come to live in Brazil. I speak several languages but I am not so well traveled as some of you. In Europe I know really well just Britain, Portugal and south of France. I decided to move to Brazil after ten years of lecturing at the university in my homecountry and after 1 year of scholarship in Portugal. My PhD was recognized in Brazil so I thought there would be no problem. But in fact, reality is very different than I thought in 2011. I became a "permanent student" and I earn money abroad writing academic stuff. I tried to teach here, even at Federal Institutes but it is too much to me. I am also not in favour of public transport. But I enjoy "underground". In Salvador the "underground" was introduced several years ago...that was a "big jump" forwards. In my opinion it changed all the life there. So that is the only public transport I really appreciate. I prefer beachwalk and cycling. As far as the legalization of my stay here is concerned, it was without any problem. Now I am a resident. Living abroad is a very stimulating thing. Sometimes I get suddenly aware that I speak completely different language than my mother tongue. Being a tourist is something very different (you do not have to reprogram your mind for another culture...psychologically speaking, you are still at home, watching different and new things, and spending money, of course).

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