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mberigan

So for the last 8+ months out neighbor on the other side of the wall (muro) has been raising pitbulls. These guys keep barking day & night and the lady doesn't have a clue as to how to train them (they're spoiled) and believes that I shouldn't be bothered because they are just "talking" and I should be understanding.


I'm ramping up to visit the police and do a B.O. (boletim de ocorrência - polícia civil) and have also sent a complete explanation to a local "vereador" (who hasn't replied in 3 days).


I reached out in friendly terms to appeal to the neighbor's sense of goodness (she's not interested).


I have extensive recordings since November. There is no "peace" at home.


Ideas? Suggestions?

mberigan

roddiesho

@mberigan Well, I love Dogs, but I am biased against Pitbull's. We live in a very large compound where Me and SIMBA, a Beagle Mix share one of the houses and my wife, my 98-year-old Brazilian mother, my wife's mentally challenged uncle and PANDORA, apparently a street mix, share another one.


So, for your situation I learned in the early days that the majority of dogs do not bark for nothing. When they first met, PANDORA (the young female) would attack SIMBA (the older wise male) with SIMBA only defending himself and not fighting back. Having gone thru the very, very difficult task of bringing SIMBA from the USA to Brazil, I was not going to lose him to a street fight. It became a habit that whether it was obvious to me or not, whenever SIMBA ran out of the house barking, I went after him so that I could possibly intervene if necessary. Dogs sense of smell is anywhere from 10,000 to 100,000 times more sensitive than humans. So, if a dog is barking it is most likely that they know what is going on, even if you don't see anything. Our neighbor has about 6 Bulls and SIMBA and PANDORA's natural instinct is to bark and herd them, so there is a lot of commotion on our property.


Before you banish the dogs to hell, I would attempt to find out WHY they are acting that way. It could be that there are strangers in the neighborhood and once you have the dogs sent away or worse, you will then have to deal with a more deadly situation. A Home Invasions from a worse challenger. You may then miss those Pitbulls.


Roddie in Retirement🕵

abthree

01/10/25 @mberigan.  It sounds like you've done everything that you can do.  Might as well let the police take care of it.  Relations with the neighbor are sure to suffer, but it sounds like they're close to rock bottom already, so not such a big deal.  Good luck.

kolyaS122HSU

Is there a noise bylaw that covers this ? For example certain things are not allowed after 10 pm, etc ?


Is she breeding them and selling them ? 

Report her to the RF for tax evasion, and  then report her to the equivalent of the SPCA, or civil health authority, for not being licensed and following guidelines, and then the prefeitura probably has laws she is in violation of as well, such as zoning. Having said all that I don't know your neighbour either, so, is she the owner or is she a renter ? Maybe an angle if she is a renter.


Roddie's point about having a free neighborhood alarm system is valid, however, none of us know the lay of the land on your street, so.........boa sorte.


IMHO pitbulls should be eradicated.

alan279

@mberigan

Our friend Iury bought the house next door and evicted his noisy neighbors. 😀

bepmoht

@mberigan


I don’t know what state you’re in but I’ve read in SC and MG states, pit bulls are not allowed. There’s a lot of bad dog owners in this world and Brazil definitely has its fair share of them. I hope you find a solution. I’m also not a fan of the breed. However, I’m not a fan of any bad dog owners as well.

mberigan

@alan279

That made me laugh!! That is something Iury would do.... but ask him some time about his mom's Fila Brasileiro there in Ilhéus. HUGE but gentle.


I few other notes I've got on my situation:

  1. She is breeding/selling dogs out of her residence.
  2. I already shot a note to the council person that has an NGO for abused animals (no response).
  3. I've never seen the prefeitura represent people's needs except for the big developers.
  4. "Alarm systems" alert when something goes awry - except those broken car alarms that keep going off all night long. These dogs are NOT a good alarm system.
  5. I've nothing against Pitbull Terriers with owners that know how to train them and give them proper attention.
  6. I'm building a compilation of information in order to file a report with the police (not expecting much given previous interactions with them on a home break-in).
  7. I'm quite aware that the "problem" generally isn't the dog but the owner.
  8. I'm unsure if the current resident is owner or renter. I do have their name, however.


Say "Hi!" to Iury for me. In fact, send me a direct message with your Whatsapp because I have a question for Iury.

mberigan

roddiesho

@mberigan Good Luck! Please let us know how it ends.


Roddie in Retirement🕵

sjpetzold

What a drag! I feel for you! We have a neighbor with three mixed but primarily GSD, one of which is out all night and barks all night. In sequences of 5. And there is really no reason for it, so I have to disagree that dogs always need a reason. The dogs around here just randomly set up a bark-a-thon, and it’s a free-for-all for a while. I think you’re on the right track with filing reports. Good luck. And maybe she will move to the country?

roddiesho

@sjpetzold And there is really no reason for it,...a dog’s sense of smell can be 10,000 to 100,000 times stronger than that of a human. And, they don’t just smell things stronger than we do, they smell them in an entirely different way – and it’s absolutely fascinating! Where a human might enter a home and smell a pot roast in the oven, a dog would enter that same home and individually identify every ingredient. They would smell the roast separately and distinctly from the potatoes, carrots, and onions. They’d smell the garlic separately from the pepper. They’d even smell the pot it’s cooking in!


I ALWAYS listen to SIMBA whether I can see trouble or not...and don't have a drink in the neighborhood, he can smell you a mile away.


Roddie in Retirment🕵

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