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Last activity 06 September 2012 by Flip465

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Flip465

Hi All,

we all know the problems that can happen when one of 'round eyes' tries booking into a hotel - with a VN lady in Sai Gon

Now before anyone goes " OH Yeah - we know ! wink-wink nudge-nudge

A good friend of mine and his 'wife' have been caught out BADLY by a fake marriage celebrant back in Australia.
They thought everything was clean and above board - UNTIL he had to go back home to New Zealand for urgent throat surgery. When his wife - of 9 years - had their papers checked by the good old Oz tax department to tidy things up before leaving Australia - all the little red flags popped up.
Turns out the 'marriage celebrant was a phony - so according to the LAW they have never been legally married at all.
They also have to pay back the Oz government money paid to them over those year - with two young kids  - so their nearly broke by now I should imagine !

He has a New Zealand passport and she only has her original VN passport.

She comes from a VERY traditional VN family. Her brother has been a total a**hole stirring thing up with in her family.

They want to get back here ASAP to straighten things out with her family.
The poor woman is close to a nervous breakdown over this whole thing.
No-one seems to want to help them, it's all in the 'TOO HARD' basket of government departments apparently.

Also - the person responsible has now decided to lodge an appeal in the courts - so no documents will be released by the kind hearted government departments, courts or police !

A new, 100% legal marriage has been applied for - with the usual one month waiting time.

They desperately want to get here within the next two weeks but don't want any trouble or to be separated when booking into a hotel in Sai Gon.

I've had a good laugh in the past about some things said here about 1 hour room rental by some hotels to certain 'ladies', so definitly NOT something like that !

They need just the one day and night to rest up after flying in from Auckland via Sydney. Not sure if they are bring their two kids with them or not - whatever - they need somewhere quiet, private and without any problems.

Can anyone offer up any hotel names please ?

Might even be better / safer, if anyone has information - please contact me by PM rather than post openly here.

Thanks in advance everyone.
Flip465

l3ully

There is no problem in Saigon. My "wife" and me, we are are also not legally married, having spend at least a 100 nights in different hotels, also Saigon, not been asked ones - and my wife is about 28 years younger than me, just does not look like a one-night fly.
Even ones, a female friend of her accompanied us,  we got offered a room with an "extra" large bed (we still did take 2 rooms, her friend extra).

I have some friends, which however did confirm a wake up during night hours or did not even get a room.

Jaitch

Have they been married anywhere other than this one occasion?

United Nations (a international legal reference) states that any form of marriage ceremony is recognised. It is the 'belief' that counts.

Example, Indian marriages are essentially an evening dinner with the two intended exchanging necklaces of flowers in front of their friends.

When I was there eleven years ago, staying at the Sheraton, I and my business partner skipped food for a month freeloading off these things. There was no official participation.

Anyway, when Indians immigrate, say to Canada, they need the documents to support their application. In India they record birth and death - marriage was supported by a sworn affidavit. Australia must have a similar procedure.

If your two friends were of the belief and thought the ceremony they went through was legal and they did it for love and care, many governments will accept this.

Meanwhile, if they can, they should get married again, wherever they are, to get it straight. Legally.

Then she should say nothing to her family, she is getting married in VN to confirm her vows in front of her family.

They might need a lawyers assistance, wherever they are (other than VN) to straighten things out.

In both Canada and the US couples used to live together "until the preacher came around" (when the weather got better) so it's not a new thing.

The hotels are relaxed these days - except the Grand the the Northern Hotels. Besides do they know what a foreifn marriage certificate looks like>

A little creative word processing ... then photocopy it and show the photocopy.

Teacher Mark

Call me.

Wild_1

Flip465,

Tell your friend to check into some of the larger hotels, like New World.  They won't have any problem there.

As for their ordeal, what about common law marriage?  After all, 9 years and 2 kids should be more than sufficient to demonstrate their commitments, no?

Flip465

Hi again ALL, :)

first off I'd like to thank those of you who took the time and effort to contact me about this.  VERY MUCH APPRECIATED ! :D

For now anyway, everything seems to have come to a grinding halt.

As of yesterday, there's no answer on their home land-line phone. Just a funny sounding sort of continuing 'busy' tone. :(

He is not answering either voice calls or SMS messages to his mobile number either. :(

I've tried contacting him on Yahoo I M and SKYPE - again nothing.
Left emails at both his email addresses asking him to please contact me - leave a message - whatever, to let me know they are OK and what's happening. (IF - they wish to talk about things)

I entered parts of the information sent to myself in both email addresses and on Yahoo I  M and SKYPE as 'off-line' messages.

Tried to sound as positive as I could. :)

I know he has a son and daughter by a previous marriage, but have no idea of where they are these days, or how to or even if I should, contact them. :/

Her family, I know exactly 'zip' about.   She never spoke very much about them to anyone I know of.
Only that they live somewhere in the southern part of VN.

At this time I'm going to pull back, sit on my hands and do nothing more until I hear from them first.
(safer for all concerned and no-one likes too much outside 'meddling' in private matters.)

So, once again - a very big " THANK YOU " to those of you who contacted me. :)

For now I guess it's all in the hands of the GODS - - - and those useless bureaucrats ! :rolleyes:

Flip465.

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