Employment agencies

Depends very much on the field of work.
The answer to every question is probably the exact opposite for an IT professional and a burger flipper.

i am not local but looking for student job,i speak English.

Get in touch with me, maybe i can help you.
Let me know about the details.

Wishes,

Adó

Sara, did u find job?

Good afternoon!
I'm not local as well and looking for some student's job.
I speak Russian(fluently) and English.
Keep in touch.

I am looking for a student job as well. I am not local, but I speak fluent English

Hello. I am architect with 5 years experience and I am looking for a job in Budapest. For further informations please contuct me . Thank you

Hi all,

I suggest you to post an advert in the Jobs in Budapest section, this might surely help. Thank you!

Regards,

David.

Quick question, someone might know the answer to this:

Are employment agencies allowed to charge "registration" fees directly to potential workers seeking work?

In other words, do potential employees pay agents to find them jobs?

(I know this is illegal in some countries - but what about Hungary?)

fluffy2560 wrote:

Quick question, someone might know the answer to this:

Are employment agencies allowed to charge "registration" fees directly to potential workers seeking work?

In other words, do potential employees pay agents to find them jobs?

(I know this is illegal in some countries - but what about Hungary?)

I really don't know the answer to that question but remember... we are in Hungary so somebody somewhere down the line is making money off of someone .
In the US usually the employer is charged a fee to the agents who run the employment agency.
The employee makes a tiny bit less then a regular full time employee for a period of time in which the work contract is for. Say 3 months, if everyone is happy then the employe can become a full time worker and get more pay as the contract with the agent is over with.
My sister used to do that in the 1980's to be able to check out different companies before committing to them as a full time worker.

In Vegas you used to be able to pay to get hired in various casinos. All depended on what casino and what experience you had already.Usually it worked out to be about one weeks worth of tips to be paid under the table or to a agent. The split of money was between the agent and the casino staff in charge of hiring. One way to go because if you just walked in cold off the st. to get hired they might turn you down because their pocket wasn't getting lined.

The thing here in Hungary is perhaps anyone with a student visa might not be able to get a work visa as well. Some of these part-time job are under the table jobs with no benefits and no taxes taken out.
Illegal is the word for it.
It's an old issue in Hungary with under the table jobs. In fact many of the local seniors in HU in the past now are sorry they went for it. They excepted X amount of pay with taxes being taken out and part of their pay as "black money". Now they have a difficult time living only on their SS retirement income.

I notice a spam message in my post but am unable to remove it...Weird.

It depends on how one is employed through the agency. If it is a simple "find me a professional", then they ask for a lump sum of money from the employer (either a "random" amount, or a percentage of the futue wage of the employee). If it is rented workforce, and the employee is de facto the employee of the agency, then they deduct a percentage of their wage, like 20%, constantly.

Rawlee wrote:

It depends on how one is employed through the agency. If it is a simple "find me a professional", then they ask for a lump sum of money from the employer (either a "random" amount, or a percentage of the futue wage of the employee). If it is rented workforce, and the employee is de facto the employee of the agency, then they deduct a percentage of their wage, like 20%, constantly.

So this is as usual elsewhere - recruitment agencies (headhunters) paid for by the employer to get someone for the job and temporary worker agencies (agency employer renting out the staff).

But specifically, what I want to know is if agencies can directly charge a fee to find someone a job.

Example:   Lajos The Worker would like a permanent (not a temporary agency) job and Ivan The Agency Boss says, sure Fred, give me 100K HUF and I will start looking for you.   

Ivan might disguise it as registration fees or simplistic and pointless training sessions or CV/resumes preparation services or something else.

In the meantime Lajos is not actually guaranteed anything for his money. 

Reason I ask is that I have a contact who basically said they were - in effect and a roundabout way - asked for a fee to facilitate access to a job. 

I'm horrified by this!

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

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In other words, do potential employees pay agents to find them jobs?
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I really don't know the answer to that question but remember... we are in Hungary so somebody somewhere down the line is making money off of someone .
......
It's an old issue in Hungary with under the table jobs. In fact many of the local seniors in HU in the past now are sorry they went for it. They accepted X amount of pay with taxes being taken out and part of their pay as "brown envelope/under the table kickback money". Now they have a difficult time living only on their SS retirement income.

I notice a spam message in my post but am unable to remove it...Weird.

I think for sure there used to be that system in HU or at least a system of "who you know" as far as dishing out the jobs go. Old habits die hard for some.

Actually, the Spam thing is quite interesting, I pressed Quote and I could see your comment without it being blocked out so I could requote it.  So I took the opportunity to change it to another phrase as you can see above.  I think it was because it said "b l a c k  m o n e y".   Why that's spam, I dunno - I wonder what it would do with "b l a c k economy" (I'll write that at the end to see if it gets it wrong). The anti-spam algorithm they use is a bit rubbish.  Just insert spaces to defeat it.

It's like that fashion chain fcuk, everyone knows what they mean although their excuse it's FC UK (as in Football Club United Kingdom).

Testing Testing 1 2 3:

"b l a c k economy" without the spaces produces: black economy

"b l a c k money" without spaces produces: black money <- Yes, it fails

"black m o n e y" without spaces in quotes produces:  "black money"  <- Yes, it fails

"money b l a c k" without spaces produces: money black

"black cat" produces: black cat

"black body radiation" produces: black body radiation

Strange I could edit it though!  Obviously all phrase dependent.

There are certain words and phrases that are blocked on the site and replaced with /!\ I AM A STUPID SPAMMER /!\.

SimCityAT wrote:

There are certain words and phrases that are blocked on the site and replaced with /!\ I AM A STUPID SPAMMER /!\.

Indeed.

You could have inserted "b l a c k money" instead.

I wonder what else is blocked

I know "f c u k" is blocked.

More tests anyone?

fluffy2560 wrote:

I know "f c u k" is blocked.

Looks like a chicken with a speech impediment.... 

fluffy2560 wrote:

"b l a c k money" without spaces produces: black money <- Yes, it fails

"black m o n e y" without spaces in quotes produces:  "black money"  <- Yes, it fails.

Meanwhile.... white money has no problems.

Is the algorithm racist? 

Note: I am joking. Well, sort of....

Note: Alternatives to "black" include: subterranean; hidden; grey; shadow; informal; clandestine; illegal; unobserved; unreported; unrecorded; second; parallel.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

I know "f c u k" is blocked.

Looks like a chicken with a speech impediment.... 

What the cluck?

Our chickens are gainfully employed to the best of their abilities despite their obvious limitations.

I'd say they are self-employed working for food and shelter.

They should be paying us!

Oh, actually they do.  Fair exchange. Eggs.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

"b l a c k money" without spaces produces: black money <- Yes, it fails

"black m o n e y" without spaces in quotes produces:  "black money"  <- Yes, it fails.

Meanwhile.... white money has no problems.

Is the algorithm racist? 

Note: I am joking. Well, sort of....

Note: Alternatives to "black" include: subterranean; hidden; grey; shadow; informal; clandestine; illegal; unobserved; unreported; unrecorded; second; parallel.

I suppose it is a bit racist if someone chooses to opportunistically interpret it that way. 

But there's a lot of it around - black widow, black mark, Black Sabbath (great band btw).

Black market is unreported.  As soon as it's reported, it's no longer "illegal".

fluffy2560 wrote:

I'd say they are self-employed working for food and shelter.

Hm.

Do they have the option to change employer? Do they have to live on site? Do they have the right to from a union and join the UCTU-- United Chickens Trade Union? Etc. Hell... Do they even speak a human language so their interests can be expressed to their overloads? Or do you speak chicken? **

If any of the above, then are they not slave labor?

Are not all all farm livestock slave labor?

** Braahhh. Cluck cluck cluck. Stare for 2.4 seconds****. Braah, brah, Braaaah. Cluck. (Translate that)

**** Note, a stare for 2.5 seconds means something completely different.

fluffy2560 wrote:

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

"b l a c k money" without spaces produces: black money <- Yes, it fails

"black m o n e y" without spaces in quotes produces:  "black money"  <- Yes, it fails.

Meanwhile.... white money has no problems.

Is the algorithm racist? 

Note: I am joking. Well, sort of....

Note: Alternatives to "black" include: subterranean; hidden; grey; shadow; informal; clandestine; illegal; unobserved; unreported; unrecorded; second; parallel.

I suppose it is a bit racist if someone chooses to opportunistically interpret it that way. 

But there's a lot of it around - black widow, black mark, Black Sabbath (great band btw).

I admit this is a bit of which came first- chicken or egg issue. Wait... is that not another discussion here... ? Oh, well, never mind.

But "darkness" or "black" is often associated with the unknown or unseeable (i.e. night). Scary. Unwanted.  And "dark" skinned people are thus too often associated by default in that same context. By very "fair" skinned people. Sad.

And also interesting. The word "swarthy" means "Having a dark complexion or color." And look what Ben Franklin had to say about "swarthy" people ("light" versus "dark"):

https://www.dialoginternational.com/dia … in-on.html

Side note: Having spent a lot of time in the tropics, I wish I was more swarthy. The tropical sun can be brutal.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

klsallee wrote:

Meanwhile.... white money has no problems.

Is the algorithm racist? 

Note: I am joking. Well, sort of....

Note: Alternatives to "black" include: subterranean; hidden; grey; shadow; informal; clandestine; illegal; unobserved; unreported; unrecorded; second; parallel.

I suppose it is a bit racist if someone chooses to opportunistically interpret it that way. 

But there's a lot of it around - black widow, black mark, Black Sabbath (great band btw).

I admit this is a bit of which came first- chicken or egg issue. Wait... is that not another discussion here... ? Oh, well, never mind.

But "darkness" or "black" is often associated with the unknown or unseeable (i.e. night). Scary. Unwanted.  And "dark" skinned people are thus too often associated by default in that same context. By very "fair" skinned people. Sad.

And also interesting. The word "swarthy" means "Having a dark complexion or color." And look what Ben Franklin had to say about "swarthy" people ("light" versus "dark"):

https://www.dialoginternational.com/dia … in-on.html

Side note: Having spent a lot of time in the tropics, I wish I was more swarthy. The tropical sun can be brutal.

We're wildly off topic now, unionised chickens included.

Maybe this needs to go to Absolutely Anything Else.

fluffy2560 wrote:

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

"b l a c k money" without spaces produces: black money <- Yes, it fails

"black m o n e y" without spaces in quotes produces:  "black money"  <- Yes, it fails.

Meanwhile.... white money has no problems.

Is the algorithm racist? 

Note: I am joking. Well, sort of....

Note: Alternatives to "black" include: subterranean; hidden; grey; shadow; informal; clandestine; illegal; unobserved; unreported; unrecorded; second; parallel.

I suppose it is a bit racist if someone chooses to opportunistically interpret it that way. 

But there's a lot of it around - black widow, black mark, Black Sabbath (great band btw).

Black market is unreported.  As soon as it's reported, it's no longer "illegal".

Good to know, wow AI is watching everything! Didn't wish to offend anyone but that's what it's called when you work under the table.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Reason I ask is that I have a contact who basically said they were - in effect and a roundabout way - asked for a fee to facilitate access to a job. 

I'm horrified by this!

https://www.beol.hu/bekes/kozelet-bekes … to-579464/

If someone asks for money when offering a job, just leave.

Rawlee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Reason I ask is that I have a contact who basically said they were - in effect and a roundabout way - asked for a fee to facilitate access to a job. 

I'm horrified by this!

https://www.beol.hu/bekes/kozelet-bekes … to-579464/

If someone asks for money when offering a job, just leave.

Yup, exactly.