Young family to move to Budapest

annguyen842 wrote:

Hi all,

My husband has received an offer to continue his research in Financial Maths, Net salary is around 650euro/month.

Could you please advise us if this salary is ok for the two of us, including a house rental?

How much are we expected to spend a month for the two?

And is it possible for me to find a job in Budapest? ( I have Master degree obtained in INSEEC, Paris and I do speak French, English).

Thanks in advance for your advise,

Anne

You will not survive on this money, it's far too low for 2 people. You need EUR 1200 a month at least, better 1500 EUR or even 2000 EUR.. And you will never find a job on just French or English. No-one speaks French here but there is a French school but I doubt it is enough.  If you are not an EFTA/EU citizen, there is no realistic chance at all.

annguyen842 wrote:

Net salary is around 650euro/month.

Could you please advise us if this salary is ok for the two of us, including a house rental?

Rental for a cheap one bedroom apartment in a non-dodgy area plus utility costs will be about 650 Euro a month. Forget a house. This seems to be a salary for the single, starving student renting just a room.

Best option would be for you to contact some French companies that have subsidiary business offices in Budapest. French is not widely spoken here, but English is more common among the educated management level. So you could maybe find a job in management position as the one to communicate to the Head office in France in French, and to the local Hungarians in English, and the Hungarians then to the rest of the staff in Hungarian.

It would be a rather like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1xMDn-Btkk

But if it pays the bills, who cares.

You can do it but it is going to be tight.
You probably won't be able to save a penny after bills every month.
Don't know your immigration status but as an American I had to show we had a savings account before I got my resident card, my husband is a HU citizen but we still had to show income, savings, bank accounts and paperwork on our paid off in cash flat.Plus my husband has a monthly steady income from the US every month without issue.
I am his dependent and he had to prove he could "afford" me.
I wonder if you on your own can qualify to stay in HU unless you also have a job offer first?
I suppose if you are already a EU citizen it shouldn't be an issue, they just love to rag on Americans.
Don't expect to live in a great area and have a house, more like a 40 sq. meter flat downstairs in a working class area. Rent should take more then half his income, food is cheap but going out to fancy places for dinners under the moonlight is out.
Check it out more if you are coming from a non EU country, they may let your husband come in and work but not you unless you can show he can cover all the bills plus have some in the bank in case of emergency.They do not give financial aid to foreigners who get down on their luck.You must also have health insurance coverage as a requirment for immigration, his job may cover him but not you.
Our son lived in Budapest with his HU wife and mother for over one year. Our son is a HU citizen from the US. Got his citizenship in HU through his father. He was offered a job in a Budapest casino dealing cards, he was a games dealer at the time in Las Vegas. The wages for a month of working in a high stress job in Budapest were less then what he made in 3 days in Vegas without the pressure of having to learn to count out in Hungarian to the floor person. He didn't take the job but drifted with his wife for the year in HU. He pissed away nearly $35,000 in one year over 15 years ago when HU was actually reasonable in price.
He was living with his MIL and didn't have to pay too much for rent to her. It is easy to spend money when you are not working.

Thanks so much for your great feedback,

Could you please advise me how much we can earn for a Mater in International Business Development and Purchasing Management? I have had 5 year working experiences, and I have had 2 year internship in Paris.

I just think that if I can find a job in Budapest, things may go better, no?

Please advise,

Best regards,

Anne

Thanks for your advise,

And with your all experiences, would you mind advising me whether it is possible for me to find a job there? I just think that if I can get a job there, we may be able to save some money, no?

Please advise,

Thanks and best regards,

Anne

annguyen842 wrote:

I just think that if I can find a job in Budapest, things may go better, no?

You could try Auchan, the supermarket chain. I don't know of any other French business in Hungary. Cora, the Belgian supermarket chain was taken over by Auchan and I suspect they will close any Cora supermarkets at some point. Their business is shrinking due to the stupidity of the recently enacted (and much hated) Sunday shopping laws.

annguyen842 wrote:

Could you please advise me how much we can earn for a Mater in International Business Development and Purchasing Management?

You can search for such jobs at this aggregate job site for your job skills, and some job postings include salary rates:

http://www.hungaryjobs77.com/sm/jobskills

You can also try the job lists at LinkedIn.

Incomes in Hungary are low. For entry level management base salary is maybe 1000 Euro net per month. But you can sometimes negotiate more with more experience.

Even so 1000 Euro a month for a college educated person still seems so low to me. My husband made allot more then that in the 1980's as a machinist in the US working only part-time , less then 30 hours a week... the "good ol'days" when the US was a world leader.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Even so 1000 Euro a month for a college educated person still seems so low to me. My husband made allot more then that in the 1980's as a machinist in the uS working only part-tim... the "good ol'days" when the US was a world leader.

FWIIW - My first job after graduate school I only made $9 an hour working in my chosen field. My second job I made even less. All working in the USA. Machinist made a lot more than me. So did the person holding the stop sign at road work. I did not make real money until I became a mostly abroad working private consultant. Odd, eh?

My husband was a "special" case, he was a contract worker in Calif doing work for the big boys, Honeywell, McDonald Douglas etc. Did piece work that was really close tolerance, most machinists probably wouldn't of made money like he did because he is and was that good at his job. He went to school for 4 years to learn in Hungary at ages 14 to 18, most of his class mates couldn't cut it and dropped out within the first year of training.
Nice when a person finds a job they are good at and know inside and out.

I've been working in my field for 30+ years and I still wonder if I'm any good at it.  I never seem to be out of work and there's high demand. So my conclusion is that I am good enough compared to the others. My first job was about £4 a day in a supermarket.  That would be about $6.  That was almost 40 years ago.

My first job was working at an all American eatery called, Bob's Big Boy. It was near the Burbank film studios and we always had movie stars coming in for a quick bite, great tips!! Used to cost 40 cents for a cup of coffee and we always got at least a $1. tip. Nothing like cute teenage girls with big smiles and having their hair done up in a up do, very formal, very strict place to work but it was worth it.
I got 2 Hungarian girl's jobs there but no body liked  them much, one was too bossy. The  cooks used to salute her when she came into work as a joke . She even scared the manager, she would tell him how to run the place! Found out later she had been in the young communist movement in Hungary, bossy!! The other one was so ditzy that she used to put trays of food on the ground before serving her customers.
It was one of those deals were people sit in their cars and eat on trays.
i used to get my rent money together in less then 3 days worth of tips the rest I just blew on platform shoes and dancing at clubs on my days off.
Served allot of interesting people, Mickey Rooney for one.
I love working for tips because I usually do well. in general though, I was lucky and never had to work since my husband did well and if I worked it just put us in a higher tax bracket so not worth the hassle. Was a stay at home m om for a very long time and loved it.
Dealing in Vegas was great money at least 10 years ago it was. Made at least $245. a night in tips and hardly broke a sweat.( plus hourly pay)
I can not even imagine working for a couple bucks an hour, I think I would rather stand on the street corner and take my chances then work for peanuts.( just joking) Planning on going to Vegas this fall for a few months, might look into dealing again, see if anyone wants a funny, friendly half crazed 60 year old women dealing to them.
One casino I worked in hired an 86 year old women, she was very popular with the public, everyone loved her, no threat or so they thought.
It is all about "personality" in Vegas, either that or a good rack!!
The bossy HU girl later called me up from a mental hospital where she was living. She tried to tell me she was a nurse there but she was a patient! She wanted us to sign her out for a day trip, no way!

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

It is all about "personality" in Vegas, either that or a good rack!!!

No hope for me then in Vegas, I have neither.

I found Vegas the strangest place I have ever been to. It's like an amusement park for adults.

I used to hate Vegas, often just told my husband to take his family and friends there himself while I relaxed at home in Calif.
Moved to New Mexico for a year then Hawaii for the second time then back to New Mexico  in the 1990's.
My husband being a Hungarian city boy just didn't get NM at all. He freaked out every time he saw a cowboy or Indian.
he tried, he even bought a pair of modern style cowboy boots, never would go in for the black hat though.
we moved to Vegas against my will but after making real$$$ for the first time in years for hardly doing anything I loved it.
While I was still in dealing school a casino gambling convention came to Vegas. A card co called Angle cards from Japan wanted to hire a student to help with their display at the convention. My teacher asked if I wanted to make a few bucks for 3 days of easy work. It was great made $25.cash an hour just standing and laughing while people walked past my booth at the convention center. Dealt a few hands once in awhile to show off the great cards and how they slide nicely in ones hands. Still in dealing school and making money, that darn 9/11 stuff hurt Vegas hard through, it has never been as good as it used to before before then.
I always hated going off to my old hairdressing jobs but getting cash money tips every day from a casino was a real  ly exciting thing for me, hated to miss a day of big tips.
I learned many games just in 20 mins here and there on breaks and was a baccarat "queen" loved dealing that all day long to huge groups of mostly males from china, big bucks and allot of action, time just flew by.
Used to wonder why I was getting paid so much for having fun all day long.
My mother enrolled me into cosmetology college, which I finished but never really enjoyed doing hair, way to personal for me.
My son is a floor manager in Vegas and it's about the only job he knows inside and out. so much power running the casino floor or even dealing cards, you are holding people fortune in your hands and they either love ya or hate ya.
Never boring that's for sure.
If someone has the whole package, young, humor and looks they can own Vegas.
Around the year 2005 my DIL arrived in the US from Hungary. She was a spoiled brat, thought she would be a model or DJ in the USA, like we all were waiting for her to arrive or something.
My son and I got her into a dealing school and with my help and the help of my good friend who was a personal friend of a casino manager we got her hired at my old work place. they didn't really want to hire her because even after Months of dealing school she could barely deal and barely knew the rules or could count to 21 without messing it up.
They hired her as a personal favor to my friend and I.
She worked there for a few months when word got back to me from my friend that they had put out an unofficial word to all hiring staff to NEVER ever hire another Hungarian. seems she was rude and unfriendly to customers, would not take orders without having to talk back and was dating other dealesr behind my son's back.( Now this was the worst case ever, she made us all look bad and so lame)Like with my service friends I got jobs for she also couldn't "handle the action" as the saying goes. You can help people but some people are beyond all help.
This casino is now part of a huge corp. so that old rule is not in play so to speak any longer, some people just can't cut it.
In reality the bosses and most people living in Vegas are very conservative and hate all cheaters, most casinos are run by the Mormons, hard to believe but true, many dealers and cocktails staff go to church  before or after work, odd place for sure.

Hello,

Try to browse on professional jobseeker websites, like: www.profession.hu
You will see the chance better...
I think it is not impossible to find a job with your language skills and experience, but it will not be easy.
I totally agree with klsallee regarding the salary.
Around 1000 EUR/month, but most of the time it can be negotiated at purchasing/logistic department.

All the best to you:
Terez

Thanks so much for your kind feedback terka2 

Finally, I have managed to find a job here and the company is working on administrative papers for my working permit.

Thanks again and have a nice day,

An